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    I wore Green Water today for my SOTD. I am very intrigued by this interesting, yet so simplistic scent. I think it's the best mint based fragrance around, and very affordable too.

    However, I don't think I have ever seen this fragrance spoken of, or even reviewed on Youtube.
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    Bought this almost 20 years ago. Still love it to this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post
    I think it's the best mint based fragrance around...
    Me too! Spearmint gum. I enjoy this one mostly in Spring, early Summer, and prefer the splash to the newer spray. But they are both good enough for my mony.

    I don't do U-tube, but there've been discussions here w/i the last year or so.
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    First time I wore it regularly the jasmine really stood out but the next time I got better balance, and really enjoyed it.

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    Count me as a loyal fan.

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    Yes. A fantastic classic. Very alive, unlike a lot of todays monochrome outputs.
    I am sure there is tonnes of verviene/ verbena in this, but the basenotes pyramid doesn't list it.
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    Your post inspired me to get a hold of a sample of the vintage juice (I have never tried the current stuff). In a word, "amazing". I love the spearmint open with its nice grassy lemon underpinning it. Very natural, and quite light and fresh. If the fragrance shows it has any longevity then it is a definite buy for me. I still prefer Menthe Fraiche by just a hair over vintage Green Water, but this is a lot less expensive and almost as good, in vintage form. The current formula is really dirt cheap, but has anyone compared it to the vintage and found it equal to the task in scent and longevity?
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    Big, big fan. I have a bottle of mid-range vintage and one of modern. I haven't done a detailed comparison, but my scent memory is that they are similar. Excellent scent, citrus-herbal-mint. Very refreshing and pleasing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odysseusm View Post
    Big, big fan. I have a bottle of mid-range vintage and one of modern. I haven't done a detailed comparison, but my scent memory is that they are similar. Excellent scent, citrus-herbal-mint. Very refreshing and pleasing.
    Excellent news. Thanks for the info, Ody! Since the new stuff is selling for only about $25 for a 100ml bottle, I may just go ahead and blind buy it. What a great find this one is... Finally an affordable herbal-mint scent that is quite natural smelling.
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    Green Water was my first fragrance at the begining of the 70's.....At that time, Green Water was much stronger than current version (created in 1947, it has been reissued in 1993) which has average longevity but the notes were basically the same. Wearing Green Water always makes me feel good !

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    great great summer fragance.
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    Well, my 100ml bottle of new/current formula juice arrived yesterday and I wore it on one arm and used my sample of the original formula on the other. The top notes both smell extremely similar and on passing glance are identical. When scrutinized much more than most folks would, the old formula has just a hair more depth in the spearmint and herbal lemon. Again, nothing to be concerned with... So far, so good. Unfortunately the heart is where the two scents diverge... The old formula stays relatively linear with that great herbal green mint and lemon verbena tandem remaining into the heart... but the current version turned very musty with an almost mold-like accord that dominated the heart with a faint hint of the lemon verbena in the background. The dry-down is where again the two formulas converged and the current formula became pleasant smelling again... Longevity-wise, the old formula is superior as well by about 20%.

    All in all the current formula is a very good scent in its own right, and at $25.50 a bottle it is sure hard to gripe about it, but after smelling the old formula, there just is no going back for me... I think I need to bite the bullet and pay the bucks for the older stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avecesar View Post
    Green Water was my first fragrance at the begining of the 70's.....At that time, Green Water was much stronger than current version (created in 1947, it has been reissued in 1993) which has average longevity but the notes were basically the same. Wearing Green Water always makes me feel good !
    Agree with this opinion very much.

    I was a huge, huge fan of Green Water until the most recent round of reformulation(s). The newest version has a little too generic tinge that ruins it for me.

    I used bottle after bottle of Green Water in the big, heavy dark green splash bottles. I also adored the shower gel - the steam from your bathroom could scent the whole house!

    Green Water was the scent that I always carried a decant of on my travels. It was versatile and appropriate in all climates and social situations and, as Avecesar points out, it had the benefit of conferring the sense of well-being whenever it was applied. So handy when you're tired and unfresh after a long flight or wait for transport.

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    I have a sample of the 'old' and a decant of the 'new' and I am really enjoying both.

    Very impressed by this one. Sort of a poor-mans-Selection Verte, no?

    How can you tell if the vintage bottles are original vintage or more recent vintage?

    I am testing/sampling these two:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    I have a sample of the 'old' and a decant of the 'new' and I am really enjoying both.

    Very impressed by this one. Sort of a poor-mans-Selection Verte, no?
    Mike, I think Luca Turin wrote a very positive review of this one on his blog a while back - I believe it was of the new version (/ new launch).
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    Quote Originally Posted by freewheelingvagabond View Post
    Mike, I think Luca Turin wrote a very positive review of this one on his blog a while back - I believe it was of the new version (/ new launch).
    Oh yes, he did for sure. His review was what prompted me to buy a decant of the new (here on BN)

    While at Esxence, I walked past the Jacques Fath stand without stopping when, out of the corner of my eye, I saw the name Green Water which I remembered from years ago as a complete joke. I was wrong: this was not the dismal earlier reissue, but an entirely different new thing done for Fath by independent perfumer Cécile Zarokian, together with three other fragrances. Her name seemed to be on everybody’s lips at Esxence, I heard it three or four times during the day; and with good reason, her creations are remarkable. When I realised belatedly that the Fath lineup was hers I asked for samples and they kindly sent some. I also read an interview of Zarokian in which she explains how Green Water was brought back, if not from the dead, at any rate from a deep coma.

    Some of the facts in this interview are so strange and so typical of the crazy world of perfumery I had to read them several times to make sure I had it straight. It is well known that the Osmothèque, the Versailles perfume museum, has Green Water in its collection. This is because the son of the original (Coty) perfumer Vincent Roubert who composed it gave the recipe to Jean Kerléo, ex-Patou perfumer of immense distinction and Osmothèque founder. Fath and Zarokian commendably wanted to recreate the original. This would seem a clearcut case: the Osmothèque’s mission statement is to preserve the glories of the past, and if the house that paid for the perfumer’s work in the first place wants to recreate the fragrance, you would think they, or at least the perfumer, would have access to the formula.

    Not a bit. The formula is secret, and Jean Kerléo alone has it. Zarokian could smell it at the Osmothèque, as indeed anyone can in principle, but could not even take away a sample to smell at leisure for the recreation. Note that a smelling strip in a cellophane sleeve would likely be enough to do a full chemical analysis if it came to that, but never mind. She had to go back time and again to the Osmothèque to refresh her smelling strips, her memory and her notes, and guess at all the materials in the formula. Kerléo was apparently very helpful, guiding the recreation with advice and hints (I picture him saying “warm” and “warmer”, etc.) and in particular insisted on the importance of a big dose of neroli in the composition. In other words the entire thing was done as a guessing game when handing over a piece of paper, under a non-disclosure agreement if necessary, would have instantly solved the problem. How this benefits Roubert’s estate, the preservation of perfumery’s past, the Osmothèque or anything other than Kerléo’s status as Keeper of the Sacred Flame I do not know.

    That’s for secrecy. Now we come to the second weirdness of perfumery, called formula cost. You would think that recreating a classic to be sold as an el expensivo niche line would by necessity be a cost-no-object affair. After all, if the oil costs an outrageous $1000/kg, and is present at 20% in a 100 ml EdP bottle, that’s $20 in a thing which is to be sold for about $100, what most businesses would consider a pretty decent markup. Not in perfumery: apparently Kerléo’s suggestions and Zarokian’s tests resulted in a specification of 5% neroli, which costs something like $3000/kg, and therefore contributes $3 to the 100ml formula cost. To their credit Jacques Fath went for it, but it is clear from the interview that this is to be considered an extravagance on their part rather than humble duty.

    How does it smell? Wonderful, as it happens. Zarokian’s trips to the Osmothèque were not wasted. Green Water is an unusual citrus fragrance, with a peculiar top note which departs from the standard Eau de Cologne canon by being richer, darker, mintier, almost rubbery. It is at times reminiscent of Monsieur Balmain, which was reconstructed by Calice Becker years ago and for which she, far more reasonably, was given the original Germaine Cellier formula. The drydown, that telltale heart of all fresh fragrances, is soft, powdery and refined. Green water has a scrubbed, relaxed, easy-breathing feel to it which is very rare in masculine perfumery these days. At all times, it remains quiet and enticing. A woman would have to come awfully close to figure out what this delicious smell was, which is of course the whole idea.
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    I had never heard of it until a few years ago when I was visiting an old g/f in London, saw it in the bathroom and asked about it , her current g/f wore it. I tried a bit on the back of my hand and liked it a lot. This reminds me that I should order some online since I can never find it in stores here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana View Post
    I had never heard of it until a few years ago when I was visiting an old g/f in London, saw it in the bathroom and asked about it , her current g/f wore it. I tried a bit on the back of my hand and liked it a lot. This reminds me that I should order some online since I can never find it in stores here.
    Yeah it's so affordable online. A woman BN buddy is the one who sent me some of the vintage juice. Smart gal!
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    I prefer this earlier iteration to the one you show on the left... Not familiar with the parfum you show on the right.
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    Great article. Thanks for posting mikeperez23
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post
    This is the version of Green Water that I have too! I also enjoy the cool, refreshing mint note in it. So which one is this ... pre-1993 or post-1993?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post


    I prefer this earlier iteration to the one you show on the left... Not familiar with the parfum you show on the right.
    This is the one I have had for ages, but also enjoy the new one they just came out with.
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    Is this frosted bottle as affordable as the one with the silver plated front (I posted above)?

    The bottle looks so much like that Guerlain flanker I used to own (which now that I think of it, had mint also), called Vetiver Refreshing Body Splash that I wrote about in 2008 on BN here: http://www.basenotes.net/threads/209...ng-Body-Splash
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    I am happy to add a big +1 to this love-in. While I rejected it at first, some years back, I bought it again lately and am delighted.

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    Great scent. The reworking of the classic is very nice too(and won't break the bank.) The three others in the Essentials Collection are first rate too IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post


    I prefer this earlier iteration to the one you show on the left... Not familiar with the parfum you show on the right.
    Yeah, this is the great one. The others are good but far inferior, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MystichromeCobra View Post
    ...So which one is this ... pre-1993 or post-1993?
    Not sure, I'd bet post '93 though.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Is this frosted bottle as affordable as the one with the silver plated front (I posted above)?
    I think you're looking at least 2 or 3 times the current ask for the silver plated one in the secondary market.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jardanel View Post
    ...I also adored the shower gel - the steam from your bathroom could scent the whole house!
    I think I paid $7/tube for a few way back when. Money well spent. Great sun-burn soother!
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    Wow it's so weird that Luca Turin thinks it is reminiscent of Monsieur Balmain. I think i wrote this in my review many years ago, but never saw anybody else notice the similarities. Not the entire fragrance though, just their dry downs are very similar to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post
    Not sure, I'd bet post '93 though.



    I think you're looking at least 2 or 3 times the current ask for the silver plated one in the secondary market.



    I think I paid $7/tube for a few way back when. Money well spent. Great sun-burn soother!
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    Thanks. And yeah I saw some vintage cologne/shower gel sets on eBay. Tempting! I love a well done shower gel.
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