Should I urinate into this O'Driù fragrance?

[hawk]

oh lawd! At least it's not a fecal note to be added. Lets just be grateful for small mercies.

lol...

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Yes.

Has anyone tried adding 'just a drop' to any other fragrance? I wouldn't be surprised if there would be some, er, changes to the scent as well.

Oh nooooos, please don't give them ideas! I hope this will not become a trend!

[alfarom]

front side 3D rendering...

[Beranium Chotato]

It looks like a nun.

We are having a meetup on Thursday, so I am holding off on this little experiment until then. Thanks MB and odysseum for giving it a shot. Very interesting result--although I'm not entirely convinced that the joke's not on us.

[Marais]

I wonder what would happen if one, by mistake, would add some seminal fluid instead. Would it turn into Mugler Cologne? And can a perfume that would require this ever be truly unisex or would perfume have genitals then, kind of?

As the male reproductive and urinary systems share a common lower outlet, there would probably be some cross-contamination anyway. Urine samples often contain sperm cells.

[alfarom]

It looks like a nun.

It TOTALLY looks like a nun and more precisely, IMO, a nun played by Edwige Fenech. There Are some interesting thoughts on this, in the other thread...

http://www.basenotes.net/threads/313...egoni-(O-Driù)

[furrypine]

It looks like a nun.

We are having a meetup on Thursday, so I am holding off on this little experiment until then. Thanks MB and odysseum for giving it a shot. Very interesting result--although I'm not entirely convinced that the joke's not on us.

You can say that again!
In the next composition they will ask you to add a drop of blood

[Beranium Chotato]

I think it is worth noting that civet, castoreum, musk, hyraceum, and ambergris are all biologically excreted and for the most part orders of magnitude fouler than urine. And yet these things are all found in fragrances--increasingly they are synthetic versions, but the notes are still there. I don't think a single drop of urine in a 15ml fragrance sample is particularly shocking from an olfactory point of view.

As noted above, the backsplash one receives in a single day is greater in volume than a wearing of this scent would be.

[MonkeyBars]

Does it seem odd to anyone else how easily we took this seriously?

I laughed for about 2 minutes straight after I received my sample.

Very interesting result--although I'm not entirely convinced that the joke's not on us.

Pregoni's obviously a very intelligent artist, as well as a good perfumer.

There is a lot of humor in this, quite up front, with the urinaceous wordplay and yellow-themed design with capital P's everywhere. That doesn't mean it can't also be a serious work of art. In fact, that multifacetedness is precisely what interests me here. This project is very much on the "art" side of the spectrum, and I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that confuses people.

[Beranium Chotato]

Totally agree with this. The real experience of the art, when all is said and done, is probably going to be less about the scent and more that I had a week long dilemma (losing sleep even!) over whose terms, mine or the perfumer's, would determine how I grappled with this fragrance. Nothing in a bottle has ever created such a quandary for me, and if it ends up smelling totally uninteresting, it would still be a very successful project from my point of view.

And I hope it hasn't been lost in my posts that I think this is a lot of fun. I went to F. Malle's 10-years-at-Barneys party last week and began telling someone about this fragrance; and when he realized that I had the sample in my bag and that it may or may not contain urine, you have never seen a champagne glass put down so fast or a conversation ended so abruptly! Not that I would ever call F. Malle "establishment"--in fact, I think he's a hero--but it was very amusing to see these little ripples of shock in a department store setting. I think Mr. Pregoni would have been proud.

I laughed for about 2 minutes straight after I received my sample.



Pregoni's obviously a very intelligent artist, as well as a good perfumer.

There is a lot of humor in this, quite up front, with the urinaceous wordplay and yellow-themed design with capital P's everywhere. That doesn't mean it can't also be a serious work of art. In fact, that multifacetedness is precisely what interests me here. This project is very much on the "art" side of the spectrum, and I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that confuses people.

[MonkeyBars]

And I hope it hasn't been lost in my posts that I think this is a lot of fun. I went to F. Malle's 10-years-at-Barneys party last week and began telling someone about this fragrance; and when he realized that I had the sample in my bag and that it may or may not contain urine, you have never seen a champagne glass put down so fast or a conversation ended so abruptly! Not that I would ever call F. Malle "establishment"--in fact, I think he's a hero--but it was very amusing to see these little ripples of shock in a department store setting. I think Mr. Pregoni would have been proud.

Classic anecdote! Hilarious.

[alfarom]

And I hope it hasn't been lost in my posts that I think this is a lot of fun. I went to F. Malle's 10-years-at-Barneys party last week and began telling someone about this fragrance; and when he realized that I had the sample in my bag and that it may or may not contain urine, you have never seen a champagne glass put down so fast or a conversation ended so abruptly! Not that I would ever call F. Malle "establishment"--in fact, I think he's a hero--but it was very amusing to see these little ripples of shock in a department store setting. I think Mr. Pregoni would have been proud.

That's exactly what I meant when I said I'd love to see SAs in facy shops introducing the fragrance to high-end customers From my point of veiw, these massive threads could be quite enough to declare a success but what has yet to come, it's going to be even better. Classifying Pregoni as a mere perfumer would be extremely reductive. He's a tout-court artist who always involves olfaction in his work. On top of that, he's a talented perfumer and one of a kind individual.

There is a lot of humor in this, quite up front, with the urinaceous wordplay and yellow-themed design with capital P's everywhere.

A P makes the difference says pretty much all. A P-erfume makes the difference, A-ngelo P-regoni makes the difference, A P makes the difference. Same for the name Secraction (as was noted by Foustie)...Secret....secretion....action....attraction, secret action? This use of wordings is extremely Futurist as opposed to futuristic. Gotta love this, sorry.

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Some inspirational pictures used for the design of the bottle which is going to be made of crystal and black bakelite. The cap will be an upside down funnel...

[Redneck Perfumisto]

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The fact that the forum has voted overwhelmingly Yes! to whether or not you should add the urine may make me rethink taking the formum's advice on scents in the future

What an adventurous bunch. Does this mean that everyone who voted yes would add their own secret ingredient, or we just like having a human guinea pig to try it out for us?

Toxoplasma is clearly voting YES.

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front side 3D rendering...

Oh, **** - I'm buying this just for the bottle. There should be an entire line of clothing to go with it.

Totally agree with this. The real experience of the art, when all is said and done, is probably going to be less about the scent and more that I had a week long dilemma (losing sleep even!) over whose terms, mine or the perfumer's, would determine how I grappled with this fragrance. Nothing in a bottle has ever created such a quandary for me, and if it ends up smelling totally uninteresting, it would still be a very successful project from my point of view.

Yes, it really is about the art, if there are only enough people to ponder it. Sooner or later, it will get picked up by the major press, and it will become fodder for the chumleys. "Look at the loony perfume nuts!" Whatever. What's interesting to me is that only a few nuns actually seemed to understand Serrano's infamous "Piss Christ" - so how many people are going to get "Piss You" (or when you truly deal with it, "Piss Me")? Not many.

I honestly wish they didn't include the word "fetish" on it. Too many people try to rationalize us by scientific ("Oh, you're a chemist!"), sexual ("Perfume fetish? Kinky!"), or collector angles. No excuses. We are what we are. We aren't the one's who don't understand.

There is also a part of me that loves this for cultural reasons. There are (thankfully, because we haven't wiped them out, yet) cultures where urine is no big deal. So watching Westerners dance around their own taboo has all the poignant humor of watching non-technological peoples deal with what seems harmless to us.

And I hope it hasn't been lost in my posts that I think this is a lot of fun. I went to F. Malle's 10-years-at-Barneys party last week and began telling someone about this fragrance; and when he realized that I had the sample in my bag and that it may or may not contain urine, you have never seen a champagne glass put down so fast or a conversation ended so abruptly! Not that I would ever call F. Malle "establishment"--in fact, I think he's a hero--but it was very amusing to see these little ripples of shock in a department store setting. I think Mr. Pregoni would have been proud.

Art is one of the easiest ways to see the irreversibility of information. The thing is, if you want to actually be a part of it, you have to choose.

[odysseusm]

The thing is, if you want to actually be a part of it, you have to choose.

That's brilliant. Thanks, Red. You've nailed it.


‎"We must never be afraid to go too far, for truth lies beyond."
~ Marcel Proust

ody

[Beranium Chotato]

Art is one of the easiest ways to see the irreversibility of information. The thing is, if you want to actually be a part of it, you have to choose.

I'm actually no longer on the fence. I'm just waiting for some of you to show up on my doorstep Thursday because eight noses are better than one! (How's that for fetish?)

[CapriDog]

Lol.... Olfactory orgy.

[Redneck Perfumisto]

I'm actually no longer on the fence. I'm just waiting for some of you to show up on my doorstep Thursday because eight noses are better than one! (How's that for fetish?)

Lol.... Olfactory orgy.

Bring it on! Better to sail over the edge of the olfactory art world in one boat, methinks!

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That's brilliant. Thanks, Red. You've nailed it.


‎"We must never be afraid to go too far, for truth lies beyond."
~ Marcel Proust

ody

To quote another brave fragrance fan of our acquaintance:

"Me likey."

[Marais]

Peeing one's pants over spraying oneself with a droplet of urine. Is this the logical conclusion of the search for exclusivity? Not many of the 'uninitiated' will bother to join in. LOL.

[alfarom]

‎"We must never be afraid to go too far, for truth lies beyond."
~ Marcel Proust

[Foustie]

The thing is, if you want to actually be a part of it, you have to choose.

To P, or not to P....that is the question........


(PS: Did you like my acting?)

[Rüssel]

All you need to do is to understand the language of the artist.

Personally I will not spray myself with urine (outside of the bathroom, if you insist that there is sprinkling going on. I even go through the bother of showering and washing my hands as to not smell of it :-) so it's not a dilemma for me. It would take a lot of hype, compliment and panty drop stories to tempt me. Maybe because I still remember when some people claimed that drinking one's morning urine is healthy lol.

[odysseusm]

To P, or not to P....that is the question........
(PS: Did you like my acting?)

Encore!

[treeman5823]

Best thread ever.

[alfarom]

After a couple of full wearings of the "standard" version, today I went for the "personalized" one and must say that while the difference is substantial, at the same time it's not radical. The fragrance still preserves a thick leathery-musky-balmy structure but the vanillla, after the initial blast, gets tamed down brutally leaving space to a nice appleish-cinnamon combo that while sounding gourmandish, it totally skips the edible aspect of the accord introducing a metallic, sort of nose-tingling vibe the drives the fragrance towards modern territories. The interesting aspect is that, despite the slightly metallic accord, Secraction still feels incredibly warm, subtly animalic, sort of visceral. Again, there's NOTHING challenging about this composition, in fact, is quite easy to like. What, IMO, really changes from the "standard" version is that the base is less woody, less peppery and more about a spicy floral musk combo. The woods get almost killed in the "augmented" version.

A funny thing I'd like to point out after several wearings is that Secraction works subliminally. You think it's gone but then you get whiffs of its peculiar projection and this goes on and on and on...Projection! This is the point of stregth of this stuff. Don't get me wrong, Secraction is not a projection monster (at least not after the first two hours or so) but I find it smelling a lot differently when smelled up close. This is a very well done fragrance but if smelled in projection, this stuff is killer. So unique. That's why I personally believe a paper strip test doesn't give justice to the composition.

In the end, I've to say that with or without the P, this is a top quality fragrance. Both the two versions are well worth experiencing if you're into original fragrances. Again, unique without being odd.

[Redneck Perfumisto]

u. wear

[CapriDog]

u. Wear

lol

[iivanita]

Hahaha Brian this is hilarious:-) so in the end your question was not your provocation of the members of BN:-) , i am sure many , including myself thought you are playing joke with us:-) was so funny to me,

So if it is true, i would put some tears in it:-) the one you got from laughing:-) not crying, they must have DNA too, and are secretions:-)

But folks this to me is really too much:-) they don't know how to attract attention anymore, its the same as this performance art:-) , i just think if someone got bored of perfumes should do something else:-)....but since they make better reaction this way they succeeded in their intention well:-) t to provoke reaction hehe

[efemmeral]

awesome. finally dadaist fragrance art.

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@ alfarom - if the scent is *chemically* altered by the drop o' pee, surely your perspiration would do the same over time on your skin? could one of you spritz some of the unadulterated jus on, do something exertful, and report back on the morph over time?

in the interests of science...

[Francolino]

don't do it!

[the_good_life]

The vintage perfume users among us have sprayed thesmelves with anal secretions of civets, deer musk and whale vomit, so a little pee shouldn't be such a big deal. It's all in the mind, isn't it. A few years ago, own-pee-drinking was an esoteric medical fad in Germany (auto-immunization blabla), so, no, we're not the only weirdos out there...

[alfarom]

u. wear

You know me!

@ alfarom - if the scent is *chemically* altered by the drop o' pee, surely your perspiration would do the same over time on your skin? could one of you spritz some of the unadulterated jus on, do something exertful, and report back on the morph over time?

in the interests of science...

I've worn the "unadultered" juice a couple of times and it has three clear different stages. The opening: herbal-animalic-sweetish. The middle phase: spicy, floral, vanillish. Tha base: woody, musky, balmy. Skin always plays a relevant role in the evolution of a fragrance. I guess the unadultered juice reacts to skin perspiration just like most other perfumes.

The vintage perfume users among us have sprayed thesmelves with anal secretions of civets, deer musk and whale vomit, so a little pee shouldn't be such a big deal. It's all in the mind, isn't it. A few years ago, own-pee-drinking was an esoteric medical fad in Germany (auto-immunization blabla), so, no, we're not the only weirdos out there...

Wise words, T!