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    Welcome to basenotes.
    I think your "fresh" category is misleading as I would classify vetiver as "green" or "woodsy."
    When I think "fresh," and I don't think I'm alone, I think of your "aquatic" and "citrus" category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggy View Post
    Sounds like you hang out with some classy dames.

    I also like how you prefaced this blurb with "I'm a frat guy". It kind of made sense from thereon out.
    This. It's got to be a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChickenFreak View Post
    Unless these women actually smelled the fragrances, I'm not sure how much you can rely on these results. I suspect that they'd have trouble truly understanding the categories.

    "Fresh" is a familiar word and sounds good; not as many people have the same everyday familiarity with the word "gourmand".

    "Powdery" sounds awful, but many musks are powdery; if you'd said "musk" I suspect the results on that one would have been different.

    People don't think of men wearing flowers, but they also probably don't recognize the floral notes in many fragrances.

    Not all gourmands are sweet; not all sweet fragrances are gourmands. The average person would probably interpret vetiver as citrus rather than grassy.

    I definitely wouldn't put woody or oriental fragrances in "Fresh". You seem to be equating "fresh" with "masculine", and I don't see that at all. Also, incense and animalic notes have been left out altogether. Leather, smoke civet, ambergris, indoles....left out altogether. That's a huge group of perfumes ignored.

    I think that the experiment would have more value if the women actually smelled something. You can't tote a briefcase full of bottles around with you, but you could get a little bit of an idea with, say, scent-dampened cotton balls in baggies.
    After reading this, I have nothing further to add. You are asking for female opinions, well you got one that sums things up pretty well.

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    This. It's got to be a troll.
    Nice call. I was, for a time in my early college days, in a fraternity. As pledges we had it hammered into our heads that you "wouldn't call your country a c___ so don't call your fraternity a frat." For multiple reasons I ended up leaving the fraternity, but to this day any time I hear the word"frat" I immediately know that guy isn't an actual fraternity guy.
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    Just my take on this -

    Gourmand = food = fit for eating
    Vanilla = baby = mother love

    Fresh = sexy on a man
    Aquatic = sexy on a man

    Musk = eeek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragrance_Extraordinaire View Post
    I wonder if it's a chemical/biological thing in females. Where does this arousing stimulation derive from when they smell fresh fragrances. Hmmmm
    This amused me.

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    'Easy' girls don't really need excuses. Wear whatever you like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merely View Post
    This amused me.
    I will answer to that - but that is just me. The male skin (because of the hormones) has already a somewhat musky smell (scent) so when you emphasize that with Khoublai Kan ... it is just toooo much. Same with Kouros.

    But, when you add a fresh cologne, it is reminiscent of a guy stepping out from the ocean water, muscular and tingling with drops of water, under the sun ...

    Again, that is just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Profumo Saggio View Post
    I was, for a time in my early college days, in a fraternity. As pledges we had it hammered into our heads that you "wouldn't call your country a c___ so don't call your fraternity a frat." For multiple reasons I ended up leaving the fraternity, but to this day any time I hear the word"frat" I immediately know that guy isn't an actual fraternity guy.
    I had a friend (at a different college) use that line. Stupid. Wanted to punch him in the head. I was in a frat in college (Sigma Nu, if it matters)...called it a frat then...still do...so did many of the other guys in my house. Most trolls that I've seen on BN don't continue to comment on threads.
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    Not surprised at all by these results, flawed survey or not. Most women I know HATE gourmands. I do too. I don't think there's anything even remotely sexy about smelling like a bakery or a chocolate bar. Just... no. That and really loud fragrances, which the mainstream gourmands often are, are usually no-gos with women. Or people in general.

    Where I live, A*Men = the smell of douchebags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    'Easy' girls don't really need excuses. Wear whatever you like.
    I agree and this is useless info for me.
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    What is the difference between 'fresh' and 'citrus' or 'aquatic'. Acqua di Gio is certainly a "fresh" and "aquatic" scent, same goes for Bleu de Chanel. Something like Allure Homme Sport is a 'fresh' and 'citrus' scent. Most citrus and aquatic scents are fresh, so I don't understand your definition of fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSmells View Post
    I'm not your pal, friend!
    I'm not your friend, guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragrance_Extraordinaire View Post
    I might go to the mall tomorrow and get a bunch of test strips and put various fragrances on there and start asking girls at the mall to smell it and then monday go downtown and wednesday at school to round it off.

    I might even throw a wild card female marketed fragrance in there and see if any girls would choose it for their man. It would be interesting.

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    Cause his concert was...fresh?


    I get your joke ;b
    Interesting research - fascinated what your college degree must be in...

    I think it would be a great idea to try out some tester samples in a public environment.

    However I do agree that you need to refine your categories a little.

    1. Fresh seems to be too broad and too encompassing.
    2. Naming the categories leads to positive or negative associations according to the wording used - who isn't going to agree with the statement that they like fresh smelling fragrances?
    3. You need to include smoke and leather and, I would suggest, wood as separate categories as a minimum.

    Finally it would be fascinating to throw in some wild card female-marketed fragrances to see how women responded. If you'd like some suggestions, why not check out the thread 'what female fragrances are even deadlier on the male? - people have been suggesting literally hundreds over the last 10 days.

    Happy experimenting.

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    Here is what you need to do. Not sure if you've seen Street Scents on Youtube, but same idea:

    Spray some fragrances on test strips (or just cut some index cards). Make sure to have 3 sample strips (so 3 fragrances) for each category for a total of 18 strips. Go to a big party and tell girls that these are what fresh smells like, what gourmand smells like, etc. and have them smell the strips so they get the idea. It's best to use fragrances that are popular and that girls are already familiar with. Ask them which category they like the best:

    I would go with these ones:
    Fresh: Cool Water, Terre D`Hermes, A&F Fierce
    Gourmand: La Nuit, 1 Million, A*Men
    Powdery: Le Male, Armani Code, Allure Homme
    Citrus: Allure Homme Sport, Versace Pour Homme, D&G Pour Homme (current formulation)
    Floral: Leau Dissey Pour Homme, Rive Gauche, Mugler Cologne
    Aquatic: Acqua Di Gio, Bleu De Chanel, Versace Man Eau Fraiche

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzie View Post
    Most women I know HATE gourmands. I do too.
    Very interesting & it's nice to finally have some honest female perspective in these types of threads. So...DHI isn't this "holy grail", most complimented frag ever, "sex magnet" BN touts it to be?!? I'm shocked.

    Seriously, though, I do believe it's true for the most part that women tend to prefer "fresher", lighter/cleaner scents on men. However, I do think a lot depends on the environment, social setting and simply how it actually smells on an individual vs. the general smell on a test strip. For example, while generally someone may say that they "hate" gourmands, I'm willing to be if an attractive, classy guy, dressed sharply on a cool or cold evening, walked by wearing a light application of something like Tobacco Vanille, LIDGE, New Haarlem, or heck, even A*Men, they would just think he smells nice and not think twice whether or not it's a "fresh" scent or "gourmand". Just a thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewtypedude View Post
    Go to a big party and tell girls that these are what fresh smells like, what gourmand smells like, etc
    I'd avoid words like these, which have their own associations and might influence the results. I'd just call them Group A, Group B, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsetspawn View Post
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    I'm not your guy, pal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fit&frag'd View Post
    Very interesting & it's nice to finally have some honest female perspective in these types of threads. So...DHI isn't this "holy grail", most complimented frag ever, "sex magnet" BN touts it to be?!? I'm shocked.

    Seriously, though, I do believe it's true for the most part that women tend to prefer "fresher", lighter/cleaner scents on men. However, I do think a lot depends on the environment, social setting and simply how it actually smells on an individual vs. the general smell on a test strip. For example, while generally someone may say that they "hate" gourmands, I'm willing to be if an attractive, classy guy, dressed sharply on a cool or cold evening, walked by wearing a light application of something like Tobacco Vanille, LIDGE, New Haarlem, or heck, even A*Men, they would just think he smells nice and not think twice whether or not it's a "fresh" scent or "gourmand". Just a thought...
    However, if the same guy wears something fresh, the women may think he's even sexier.

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    Even though I sometimes feel like drinking eau sauvage, I love some Sweet ambery spice on a man, and for flowers, coffe, you name it, I say go. Standing out of the crowd is hot!
    But I guess thats because Im a slut. lol

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    I'm curious if there have been anymore experimenting since the last update as it is a very interesting thread and topic for discussion...

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    I am most intrigued with Citrus scoring low. I know that Fierce and more upscale citruses were a hit so I am a bit intrigued.

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