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    Default Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    In 2011, I smelled Fahrenheit at a Lord and Taylor, it was magical.
    I bought it in Sephora in 2012 and it's much different.

    The difference was so big, it was beyond nostalgia bias.

    The 2011 Fahrenheit was more floral, but 2012 was MUCH more leathery, and it even marketed it as a leather based fragrance on the box.

    I like the 2012 version a little bit, but some notes in it are repulsive. And the drydown doesn't get better.

    Is anyone else disappointed?

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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    I only have the original release but I have smelled what's out there and personally it's fine to me.

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    The only references I have are the 1988-1992 original formulation that I wore during that time and what I smelled this year..2012. They are nothing alike to me and so far off that it is ridiculous. The 2012 batches have the original Fahrenheit feel on first spray but that literally turns into a pure gasoline smell in 30 seconds. From there on out I barely recognize anything. The original version was spicy/floral/smooth/addictive and was completely outside the norm at the time. This 2012 is crap that gives me a headache.
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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    I have a vintage bottle and have smelled a 2010 or 2011 bottle. The vintage is obviously better, but the newer bottle I smelled wasn't bad. I thought the last reformulation was around 2006. Can anyone verify how many reformulations that has happened since 2006?
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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    Mine is August 2011, I get gasoline and a whole lot of green/flowers after that

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    I have one 200ml bottle from around 2007-2008. How is it regarding the reformulation in 2012 you mentioned?
    Is it a shadow of the vintage Fahrenheit or somewhat the same???
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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    I notice a HUGE difference between what was sold in 2011 and what is sold in 2012.

    Perhaps, the store I got it at had the bottle in late 2011 for over a year, so it could be a 2010 batch.

    But I know for a fact, that 2012 has a much darker bottle with a much easier to use sprayer. That and a new batch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noirdrakkar View Post
    Perhaps, the store I got it at had the bottle in late 2011 for over a year, so it could be a 2010 batch.
    When in doubt, flip the bottle over and snap a pic of the batch code on the bottom. I bought a bottle of Fahrenheit this past summer, but it was manufactured in July 2011. Interesting that it was manufactured over a full year before it was sold.

    It says leather right on the box, btw. "A surprising blend of wood and violet leaf, warmed by a leather accord."
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    Quote Originally Posted by noirdrakkar View Post
    I notice a HUGE difference between what was sold in 2011 and what is sold in 2012.

    Perhaps, the store I got it at had the bottle in late 2011 for over a year, so it could be a 2010 batch.

    But I know for a fact, that 2012 has a much darker bottle with a much easier to use sprayer. That and a new batch.
    Yeah, I just gave up with the new stuff and decided to stock up on the vintage. It's actually quite a bit cheaper also. Damn shame the way they neuter these classic men's fragrances.
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    I agree that the new stuff is pure gasoline/leather and far away from the original. I loved the original and find the new stuff headachy and repulsive. We should write CD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scentologist View Post
    I agree that the new stuff is pure gasoline/leather and far away from the original. I loved the original and find the new stuff headachy and repulsive. We should write CD
    You mean Dior.

    Luca Turin is of the opinion that the outlawing of acetylenic esters is to blame for Fahrenheit's lost magic; perhaps it's impossible to recreate that composition with today's perfumery palette.

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    Mine was made in June 2012 (just checked my batch code). Yes it has a very heavy petroleum opening but it doesn't last that long on my skin. Seems to turn into a sweet/floral/leather scent after an hour. Overall, I'm impressed but maybe I should look into the vintage if I like the worst variation very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post
    You mean Dior.

    Luca Turin is of the opinion that the outlawing of acetylenic esters is to blame for Fahrenheit's lost magic; perhaps it's impossible to recreate that composition with today's perfumery palette.
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    It is safe to buy Dior fragrances nowdays? They ****ed up absolutely everything that they produce. Its not just Fahrenheit... their fragrances for women got big hit too. Addict, Miss Dior Cherie, Poisons... everything is watered down.
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    the 2012 release has mediocre longevity at best on my skin. And no sillage. As stated by other people, most of their fragrances got diluted. Only one i can think of and doesnt fit this category would be Dior Homme Sport 2012 (i dont even find anything sport in this reformulation).

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    I'm glad I got my two bottles of Fahrenheit last year as they smell fantastic and I get 12 hours longevity. Will have to try to smell this years formulation and see what the difference is to last year.

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    More paranoia about reformulations. Oh blimey, it never ends here on Basenotes. :-(

    Is there really a 2012 reformulation?

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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoombung View Post
    More paranoia about reformulations. Oh blimey, it never ends here on Basenotes. :-(

    Is there really a 2012 reformulation?
    I agree with this statement and I also doubt there's been 2012. reformulation, but hey, how can one be sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spoombung View Post
    More paranoia about reformulations. Oh blimey, it never ends here on Basenotes. :-(

    Is there really a 2012 reformulation?
    +1. Bought mine in 2012, and both sillage and longevity is excellent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oslo-Fjord View Post
    +1. Bought mine in 2012, and both sillage and longevity is excellent.
    I bought mine in late summer 2012 but it was made in 2011, so the year you bought it isn't necessarily the year it was made. You can use the code underneath your bottle to find out when it was manufactured. My code is 1U03, though I'm not sure if that's a letter O or a zero. I checked both, and both came back as July 2011.

    Have there been any new restrictions that would require a reformulation this year? Unless Dior was required to change the formula, I doubt that they did.
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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoombung View Post
    More paranoia about reformulations. Oh blimey, it never ends here on Basenotes. :-(

    Is there really a 2012 reformulation?
    First time I've heard of it also. Another thing is that if they did reformulate it, it would also include the flankers, so Aqua Fahrenheit would probably be the one everyone would notice since it's the most popular one.
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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    First DHI, now Fahrenheit. Making it hard for a fraghead. Damn shame!

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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoombung View Post
    More paranoia about reformulations. Oh blimey, it never ends here on Basenotes. :-(
    I think you've misplaced the blame, sir. Especially considering designers' track record, I would hesitate to name it paranoia. Look to the execs and the IFRA if you want a scapegoat. We enthusiasts merely wish the creators' vision to be respected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post
    I think you've misplaced the blame, sir. Especially considering designers' track record, I would hesitate to name it paranoia. Look to the execs and the IFRA if you want a scapegoat. We enthusiasts merely wish the creators' vision to be respected.
    I agree, but at the same time you have people who are stating that they're 100% sure it's been reformulated when another person says it's exactly the same and there's no facts to back up that it has been reformulated. The OP also stated there's a huge difference in the versions that he smelled.
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    I have just recently become infatuated with Fahrenheit, so I am guessing that I have only smelled the latest formula. I am glad that I didn't know earlier versions because I apparently am okay with the current one. I will have to double check the box and see if it mentions leather on there.

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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    I agree, but at the same time you have people who are stating that they're 100% sure it's been reformulated when another person says it's exactly the same and there's no facts to back up that it has been reformulated. The OP also stated there's a huge difference in the versions that he smelled.
    It will always be a matter of consensus with such things, as the vicissitudes of commercial product formulation are (not surprisingly) kept secret. Thus, requiring facts of such an opinion is not reasonable. Some people, like hednic, feel that their noses don't work to the level of detail required for such adjudications, and simply state such and respectfully stand aside in these discussions. Others chime in. This is where experienced fragheads' opinions should generally be weighted more heavily than newbs, who may not have the skill to distinguish differences to the degree required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post
    It will always be a matter of consensus with such things, as the vicissitudes of commercial product formulation are (not surprisingly) kept secret. Thus, requiring facts of such an opinion is not reasonable. Some people, like hednic, feel that their noses don't work to the level of detail required for such adjudications, and simply state such and respectfully stand aside in these discussions. Others chime in. This is where experienced fragheads' opinions should generally be weighted more heavily than newbs, who may not have the skill to distinguish differences to the degree required.
    Well you pretty much said what I was thinking. Lol...But yeah, I think if people who actually have worn the fragrance A LOT will be able to tell even the most subtle differences. Problem with many of us Basenoter's is that we have so many fragrances that we don't have enough time to wear just one and be content with it. Another problem we run into sometimes is we think our opinions are superior which is never a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamer81 View Post
    It is safe to buy Dior fragrances nowdays? They ****ed up absolutely everything that they produce. Its not just Fahrenheit... their fragrances for women got big hit too. Addict, Miss Dior Cherie, Poisons... everything is watered down.
    The reformulated (Demachy) Dior Homme is far from messed up. In fact, it's very good indeed, and no slouch next to the original Polge formulation.

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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBars View Post
    It will always be a matter of consensus with such things, as the vicissitudes of commercial product formulation are (not surprisingly) kept secret. Thus, requiring facts of such an opinion is not reasonable. Some people, like hednic, feel that their noses don't work to the level of detail required for such adjudications, and simply state such and respectfully stand aside in these discussions. Others chime in. This is where experienced fragheads' opinions should generally be weighted more heavily than newbs, who may not have the skill to distinguish differences to the degree required.
    Just because a bunch of experienced fragheads agree, doesn't rule out the fact that they could have possibly succumbed to the sheep effect.

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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    I haven't heard of a 2012 reformulation but I'm quite happy with my 2010 bottle.
    I don't have a signature fragrance. My signature changes a little bit every day, why shouldn't my fragrance?
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    Default Re: Fahrenheit - 2012 reformulation

    Okay, time for some practical advice based on this discussion. I wore Fahrenheit a bunch in the mid-90s. It was pretty much my signature fragrance. I still have a half-full bottle from that period which may not have the brightness it once had, but still smells pretty good (I didn't try to keep it preserved most of the intervening years, sadly, though it wasn't sitting in sunlight, either, thank goodness).

    Yesterday at Sephora I saw they had 30ml bottles of Fahrenheit for $40, so I grabbed one, figuring, well, how bad could the new version be, really? I haven't opened the box yet, but according to the code it was manufactured in July 2012. Now I'm wondering whether it's worth the bucks. I've read varying opinions -- some say it's still distinct and well-made on its own terms (which would be fine with me), whereas others say it's become a tepid, ho-hum masculine with a generic dry-down (not okay with me!).

    Those who own a 2012 bottle: what's your perspective and advice?

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