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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdboy48 View Post
    Well, #7 sounds like the sort of thing you were looking for when you first started this sniffing, and the seasonal timing is right...

    But you never heard me say any of that.

    Wait....

    Are you saying you picked #7?


    That would be crazy!


    Don't tell me if you did or not....


    I guess we'll just have to wait and find out.

    BY THE WAY...

    Here's the official updated bracket in case anyone wants to check it out:

    http://tinyurl.com/al7d4q2
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    So, what scent won the finale? Both sound worth trying out, I need to sample these...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobbes22 View Post
    So, what scent won the finale? Both sound worth trying out, I need to sample these...

    And the final results are in...

    Click on the image below to view!

    Fragrance Contest Final Winner.jpg


    ***********************************************

    It's over!

    I just ordered a bottle of Strange Invisible Perfumes "ATLANTIC" and I can't wait till it gets here so I can begin wearing it.

    And I found a great deal on Gaiac as well ($65 for a 30ml bottle), so I scooped it up while I had the chance.

    Both should compliment each other well.

    Anyway, this has been a lot of fun!

    If anything, it's taught me how different our perceptions are regarding smell. For example, here's a little something I wrote when sampling Ormonde Man--what is commonly regarded as a spicy, woody fragrance: #14: Creamy, lemony fresh florals with a sweet sugar candied frosting coating the whole thing. It's like a sophisticated, understated H.M. by Hanae Mori--minus the chocolate--and probably at least 5 times the price.



    Lemony fresh florals? I was convinced, after sampling this, that it was De Bachmakov. Man, was I off....

    And the one I thought was Ormonde Man? It turned out to be Avant Garde by M. Micallef, which most describe as a sweet, tobacco and cocoa incense frag.



    Biggest Disappointments

    First Place: MEMOIR MAN: Even after this got eliminated in the tournament I wore it several more times just to make sure, but again and again I was let down. This did nothing for me (and I almost blind bought it, but decided to do this tournament instead!). I found it to be a quiet, kind of boring scent....though something about it still kind of haunts me.

    2nd Place: Ormonde Man: Not at all what I had expected or wanted out of it. Another frag I almost purchased blind but decided not to at the last minute.


    Biggest Surprises

    1st Place: Atlantic of course, but...

    I was also really surprised by Frank Los Angeles No. 2. It's a very solid fragrance, great coffee and cognac note in the dry down, beautiful plum up top, and can be had for $65.

    Thundra What I thought all along was "Avant Garde" was really Thundra. And this one smells really interesting. In fact, I ordered more samples of it just to wear it a few more times and decide what I really think about it.

    You Stink! Awards

    Ambre Russe: Uggh. I did NOT enjoy this. I'm surprised it gets so much love and so little hate. I'm not surprised by the love, actually, but I am surprised that more people don't hate it.

    Wazamba: Count me out.

    Least Interesting

    Jade, Cereus No. 6, and De Bachmakov



    I will get a bottle of Ambre 114 at some point. It's excellent stuff and deserves all the praise it receives.

    To the contestants, thank you for participating. I'll tally up your scores soon and send you PMs regarding your prizes.

    If you've been following this thread, thanks for reading and feel free to discuss any of the fragrances involved. I've FINALLY looked at the list, so their names are no longer a secret.

    I hope this thread wasn't too esoteric or alienating, though I realize it was probably less accessible than the blind sampling tournament I held last year. I have to admit, it got a little crazy, and even I lost track of it at times.

    My plan for next Fall is to do a faster blind sampling tournament, starting right off with the bracket round, where I sample 32 designer frags and eventually get it down to one. I'll be collecting ideas and samples in the meantime.


    I'll post the winning contestant's Username once I have the results.




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    Nope, I didn't start thinking Atlantic would take it until the final match-up. But it's cool to see that it won, as I suspect few people have heard of it before. I'm probably not the only one who thought MM would be the winner, particularly based on your original impressions.

    My second choice was Giac, as I've heard a lot of good things about it.

    But yes, Frank and Atlantic : I suspect I'm not the only one who will be looking samples.

    Perhaps there were a few more apples and oranges in this contest, compared to all the ambers in the first contest, but I found it really interesting, enjoyed the vicariousness of it all, and will be looking forward to the next contest !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdboy48 View Post
    Nope, I didn't start thinking Atlantic would take it until the final match-up. But it's cool to see that it won, as I suspect few people have heard of it before. I'm probably not the only one who thought MM would be the winner, particularly based on your original impressions.

    My second choice was Giac, as I've heard a lot of good things about it.

    But yes, Frank and Atlantic : I suspect I'm not the only one who will be looking samples.

    Perhaps there were a few more apples and oranges in this contest, compared to all the ambers in the first contest, but I found it really interesting, enjoyed the vicariousness of it all, and will be looking forward to the next contest !
    The next contest is going to be a straight bracket tournament of 32 designer fragrances. I'm gonna do some polling and questioning around here to determine the final 32 that I use.

    I plan on making the next one less complicated--this got a little out of hand at times, and might have been hard for the casual observer to follow. Still, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

    If you placed among the finalists you will surely be able to sample Atlantic and Frank No. 2 if you decide you want to. I'm curious to see how others receive Atlantic. I don't think most people will enjoy it as much as I do. But it's definitely one of those ones that you shouldn't write off at first, it gets better and more addictive with each wear--whereas at first, it seems maybe a little too simple, even generic perhaps.

    I'll be in touch!

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    Like you, I am a little suprised about the love for Ambre Russe on this site. I wore it a few times, and just can't get myself to like it.

    Thanks for doing this - I have never tried Atlantic or Thundra, but now I am very interested - I will have to track down samples of these soon.
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    I just stumbled across this thread today, and even though it's already over, I must admit that it was a really fun read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partario View Post
    I just stumbled across this thread today, and even though it's already over, I must admit that it was a really fun read.
    Thanks, Partario. Glad you enjoyed it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
    Like you, I am a little suprised about the love for Ambre Russe on this site. I wore it a few times, and just can't get myself to like it.

    Thanks for doing this - I have never tried Atlantic or Thundra, but now I am very interested - I will have to track down samples of these soon.
    Yeah, I can't guarante much of anything as far as Thundra is concerned. Sometimes it goes through the 'strange' zone and emerges on the other side as a clean, sophisticated, and modern-feeling scent. But other times, it continues down the strange path and becomes more off-putting as it develops. It's a tough nut to crack.

    Thanks for the comments and for reading!

  9. #39

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    Since no one commented on Wazamba, I agree it stinks, worst from the line by far. However, I quite like Ambre Russe.
    And yes, it would help to have more common stuff and going straight for the brackets, but it was an interesting read once more!
    We want a niche forum.

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    It was fun to participate in it, thanks for running the tournament Buysblind! I'm curious to see how the points added up for everyone.

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    Adding your scores now....

    Be back soon!


    FINAL SCORES!

    Okay...

    The final scores for this year's Blind Sampling Madness Tournament Are:

    Gamma

    Prelim Round: 7
    Bracket Round: 12

    Final Score: 19 Points

    Gamma scored 4 round one points, 4 round two points, and 4 round three points in the bracket tournament.


    BirdBoy48

    Prelim Round: 3
    Bracket Round: 11

    Final Score: 14 Points

    Birdboy scored 5 round one points and 2 round two points and 4 round three points in the bracket tournament.


    JiveHippo

    Prelim Round: 4
    Bracket Round: 14

    Final Score: 18 points

    JiveHippo scored 6 round one points, 4 round two points, and 4 round three points.


    Hobbes22

    Prelim Round: 7
    Bracket Round: 9

    Final Score: 16 Points

    Hobbes scored 5 round one points, 4 round two points, and did not submit any predictions for round three!!! If you had correctly predicted Coze to enter the finals you would have won the tournament again, but you didn't submit anything. I was able to see you had Mem Man going to the finals, but in the Kouros Conference you had Avant Garde matched up against Coze, but didn't predict the outcome. I'm sorry Hobbes! I don't check anybody's predictions until the very end of the tournament and by then all the results are in. Had I known, I would have alerted you, but due to the nature of the tourney I can not know anything until the very end!

    So, the final results are:

    1st Place: Gamma (19)
    2nd Place: JiveHippo (18)
    3rd Place: Hobbes22 (16)
    4th Place: Birdboy48 (14)


    Great job guys, it's been a blast!

    I'm putting together prize options and I'll PM you soon to let you know how it's all going down.

    Thanks!

    Buysblind



    BTW: EVERYONE had Memoir Man and Coze fighting it out in the finals (except Hobbes, who had Mem Man and _________ in the finals), and Memoir Man taking the whole thing. I thought that was really interesting that you all had the same final predictions. I probably would have precicted the same if you had asked me before everything began. Mem Man and Coze were the two frags of the tournament (and Ormonde Man) that I almost bought blind before deciding to do this instead. Goes to show you, sometimes it pays to sample. However, I will never stop buying blind!
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    Some interesting results. Thanks for doing this BB, its been fun!
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    That was pretty close in the end! I'm really curious to smell Atlantic and Gaiac, both sound great. Thank again Buysblind for setting this up.

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    Congrats on your victory, Gamma!

    You'll definitely get a chance to sample Gaiac and Atlantic.


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    A fun thread Buysblind, thanks for doing this!

    Just a thought, but it would be cool if the next time you did this, you got samples contributed by members and thus had NO idea what you were smelling, niche, designer, celeb scent or otherwise. I'd be willing to chip in a few samples for that cause, as I'm sure others would, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SculptureOfSoul View Post
    A fun thread Buysblind, thanks for doing this!

    Just a thought, but it would be cool if the next time you did this, you got samples contributed by members and thus had NO idea what you were smelling, niche, designer, celeb scent or otherwise. I'd be willing to chip in a few samples for that cause, as I'm sure others would, too.
    Thanks for reading!

    That would be awesome. But I don't know how many people would be willing to participate...but I'd love to do it!

    I still remember when you had sent me an unmarked sample of Kobe and I replied that it smelled like a cheap, synthetic high pitched citrusy designer like Light Blue or Chrome...and that Fou d'Absinthe smelled like the inside of an old man's leather shoes that he wears without socks (I'm still convinced that was mislabeled). Lol. Every review I read about Fou d' says it's so fresh, like a cool pine forest. No mentions of old feet.

    Something to think about for the future though. That would be a trip. I plan on doing another tournament around May/June.

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    I have finally made it through the decants and samples that Buysblind generously sent over! Here are my notes on the ones I received:

    Strange Invisible Perfumes Atlantic (the tournament winner)
    This is a really unique scent! It starts off with a nostril tingling pepperment, key lime, ginger ale, juniper berries and some bright cedar. It could be the smell of a refreshing cocktail. Slowly sandalwood and incense start coming through as the opening fades. A trace of peppermint lingers about into the drydown. Very unique, with a good overall smell, though I feel I could potentially get bored of the smell if I were to wear it regularly.
    86/100

    The Different Company De Bachminov
    Refreshing watery cucumber and citrus with some light spiced woods. Though, it has a slightly bitter vegetal smell too it. I think it could be the shiso leaf, mixed with something else. It does kind of smell like goya melon, or bitter melon. That aspect is a little off putting, but does give it a unique edge.
    76/100

    Parfumerie Generale L’Ombre Fauve
    This starts off with a stale dried soap smell- exactly what you might smell if you bought a bar of cheap soap, used it a couple times, and left it to dry. Not ideal! Though, as this opening fades we are left with actually a nice drydown which is similar in nature to Musc Ravageur. It is more mellow than MR though and fades faster.
    81/100

    M.Micallef Gaiac
    The vetiver really stands out over the other notes in this one for me. Powdered vetiver and pale woods. It's in the same vein as Mona di Orio’s Vetiver. Good overall. I don't know which I would choose between this and MdO Vetiver, they may need a side by side comparison, I might be totally off.
    85/100

    M.Micallef Avant Garde
    Citrus opening being balanced by a hint of something dirty in the background, then transitions quickly into a velvety lightly spiced suede. Has a freshness that contrasts with a deeper backdrop. Slightly generic department-store feel. Very similar to Scotch & Soda Barfly, without the calone, and less vanilic in the drydown (swapped with tonka). Light musk throughout. It's similar in nature to Mechant Loup as well, not necessarily with its notes, but more overall feel and balance. I would choose Mechant Loup over this every time.
    80/100

    Ormande Jayne Ormande Man
    Musky preserved lemons. Absolutely unique and very nice, but it does have a muskiness that I don't think is fully appealing.
    82/100

    Cereus No.11
    Smooth and clean vetiver, with a nice dose of anise that starts strong and weakens over time. Citrus at first that fades fast. Some woods support everything in the background. Nice, quite good longetivity. Certainly a good vetiver option.
    86/100

    Enchanted Forest (not in the tournament)
    I was expecting the worst with this one, considering what I've read, but I am a fan of Bertrand Duchaufour. It starts off with a blast of black current, sweet and candylike, together with stem and leaves. A coniferous pine scent quickly moves its way to the forefront. It is sweet but not overly so. There's a nice dense substance to this scent, it's definitely not light. As it dries down everything is smoothed out, things become a little creamy, and a hint of incense is added. Overall I was pleasantly surprised, I like it, in particular the drydown. Not exactly bottle worthy though.
    85/100

    Slumberhouse Pear+Olive
    This is unique! The opening leaves me confused, I don't know what smell this is. I get something like raw floured buttery dough, but slightly sweet, with a sprinkle of olive oil on top. Overall I get a gourmandish rich buttery/oily smell that resembles something like an unbaked pear pastry. Weird and the scent combination seemed better in my head than it played out. Though, there is something strangely appealing about it.
    75/100


    Overall, a very interesting batch. I can see Atlantic being one of the better scents in the bunch, definitely. It would be a showdown between Coze, Atlantic, Memoir and No.11 for me (from the ones I smelled), and at this point I'm not sure which I would have picked. I think Memoir is probably the best composition, and I do like it quite a lot, but sometimes it doesn't sit right with me. They're all about equally good, I think it would just depend on what I'm feeling that day!

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    I had never even heard of Atlantic before reading this thread and now I really want to try it. Thanks guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamma View Post
    I have finally made it through the decants and samples that Buysblind generously sent over! Here are my notes on the ones I received:

    Strange Invisible Perfumes Atlantic (the tournament winner)
    This is a really unique scent! It starts off with a nostril tingling pepperment, key lime, ginger ale, juniper berries and some bright cedar. It could be the smell of a refreshing cocktail. Slowly sandalwood and incense start coming through as the opening fades. A trace of peppermint lingers about into the drydown. Very unique, with a good overall smell, though I feel I could potentially get bored of the smell if I were to wear it regularly.
    86/100

    Glad you liked it. The samples surrender to chance has are very strong on the bracing peppermint side, which I really, really enjoyed. The bottle I ordered directly from Strange Invisible Perfumes is not as bracing or cold. It's cool in the opening, but it lacks a little bit of the sharp punch that the sample had. Still a great fragrance that I now wear often, but a little disappointing when I first received the bottle (I'm over it now!). Not the first time that happened, I had a very similar experience with a Piper Nigrum sample Vs. the bottle.

    The Different Company De Bachminov
    Refreshing watery cucumber and citrus with some light spiced woods. Though, it has a slightly bitter vegetal smell too it. I think it could be the shiso leaf, mixed with something else. It does kind of smell like goya melon, or bitter melon. That aspect is a little off putting, but does give it a unique edge.
    76/100

    Yeah, the bitter vegetal smell didn't go over well with me either.

    Parfumerie Generale L’Ombre Fauve
    This starts off with a stale dried soap smell- exactly what you might smell if you bought a bar of cheap soap, used it a couple times, and left it to dry. Not ideal! Though, as this opening fades we are left with actually a nice drydown which is similar in nature to Musc Ravageur. It is more mellow than MR though and fades faster.
    81/100

    M.Micallef Gaiac
    The vetiver really stands out over the other notes in this one for me. Powdered vetiver and pale woods. It's in the same vein as Mona di Orio’s Vetiver. Good overall. I don't know which I would choose between this and MdO Vetiver, they may need a side by side comparison, I might be totally off.
    85/100

    Weird...Vetiver never even crossed my mind with this one. I don't detect it at all. I find Gaiac sweet, almost bordering on the gourmand, woodsy and spicy. It kind of smells like a fresh baked gingerbread cookie. I ended up with a small bottle of it and love it. I gotta check it out later today and see if I can pick up on the vetiver.

    M.Micallef Avant Garde
    Citrus opening being balanced by a hint of something dirty in the background, then transitions quickly into a velvety lightly spiced suede. Has a freshness that contrasts with a deeper backdrop. Slightly generic department-store feel. Very similar to Scotch & Soda Barfly, without the calone, and less vanilic in the drydown (swapped with tonka). Light musk throughout. It's similar in nature to Mechant Loup as well, not necessarily with its notes, but more overall feel and balance. I would choose Mechant Loup over this every time.
    80/100

    Did you find it very weaK? I liked it but found it too weak to consider.

    Ormande Jayne Ormande Man

    Musky preserved lemons. Absolutely unique and very nice, but it does have a muskiness that I don't think is fully appealing.
    82/100

    Good to see you picked up on sweet lemons too because I thought there was something wrong with my nose. "Lemons" are rarely mentioned in relation to OM. This is one I'd like to experiment with again at another time.

    Cereus No.11
    Smooth and clean vetiver, with a nice dose of anise that starts strong and weakens over time. Citrus at first that fades fast. Some woods support everything in the background. Nice, quite good longetivity. Certainly a good vetiver option.
    86/100

    Did you test this one on your skin or paper? I really liked it on paper, and thought it could end up winning the whole thing. But as soon as it went on my skin it completely fell apart. Smelled really generic and boring on me. All the cool little notes I picked up on paper disappeared.

    Enchanted Forest (not in the tournament)
    I was expecting the worst with this one, considering what I've read, but I am a fan of Bertrand Duchaufour. It starts off with a blast of black current, sweet and candylike, together with stem and leaves. A coniferous pine scent quickly moves its way to the forefront. It is sweet but not overly so. There's a nice dense substance to this scent, it's definitely not light. As it dries down everything is smoothed out, things become a little creamy, and a hint of incense is added. Overall I was pleasantly surprised, I like it, in particular the drydown. Not exactly bottle worthy though.
    85/100

    Yeah, I was hesitant to voice my distaste for this at first, since I received a free sample, but I've decided I really don't like this one. The black currant is waaay overdone, IMO. But it's good to see the sample did not go to waste!

    Slumberhouse Pear+Olive
    This is unique! The opening leaves me confused, I don't know what smell this is. I get something like raw floured buttery dough, but slightly sweet, with a sprinkle of olive oil on top. Overall I get a gourmandish rich buttery/oily smell that resembles something like an unbaked pear pastry. Weird and the scent combination seemed better in my head than it played out. Though, there is something strangely appealing about it.
    75/100

    Yes! It's definitely buttery. Pear + Olive's a personal favorite of mine these days.

    Overall, a very interesting batch. I can see Atlantic being one of the better scents in the bunch, definitely. It would be a showdown between Coze, Atlantic, Memoir and No.11 for me (from the ones I smelled), and at this point I'm not sure which I would have picked. I think Memoir is probably the best composition, and I do like it quite a lot, but sometimes it doesn't sit right with me. They're all about equally good, I think it would just depend on what I'm feeling that day!

    Gamma, thanks for coming back with your impressions, I enjoyed reading them!

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    Weird...Vetiver never even crossed my mind with this one. I don't detect it at all. I find Gaiac sweet, almost bordering on the gourmand, woodsy and spicy. It kind of smells like a fresh baked gingerbread cookie. I ended up with a small bottle of it and love it. I gotta check it out later today and see if I can pick up on the vetiver.
    I am glad, you wrote this, Buysblind. I was quite puzzled when reading Gamma's comment on Gaiac, because to me this fragrance was always exactly as you described it.

    At the same time I am wearing it now. And Gamma is right. There is Vetiver. And his phrase of a „powdered vetiver” is pretty good. You could also use the analogy of a vetiver mist or so; something that is all over but not covering in it's quality.

    Thanks, I am enhanced!

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    It's been a while since I tried Gaiac, but I'm going to try it again, maybe tomorrow's SOTD. I don't remember smelling any gingerbread cookie but that sounds very appealing. I just remember the light vetiver.

    Avant Garde was not unusually weak to my nose. Perhaps you are anosmic to something in it? I found it quite average in its strength.

    No.11 I tried on skin and found it pretty nice, I'll try again soon and report back.

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    I tried Gaiac again twice, and have it on now. The vetiver is taking a less predominant role than I originally remembered, but it is there. I don't smell exactly gingerbread cookies, but I do smell something cookie-like. It's a nice warm scent, with a sprinkle of earthy vetiver on top. I think this would be a great comforting fragrance for fall-winter-spring.

    No.11 I also wore again recently and I still find it very good, though perhaps it is a bit generic, yes. Again, the vetiver stands out for me- maybe I am particularly sensitive to vetiver in fragrances. It's safe, masculine, has good longetivity and moderate projection.. something I could see wearing to work or anywhere that I don't want my fragrance to draw much attention. It does sacrifice uniqueness for versatility.

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