I don't get it.
If a fragrance were $100, would you buy it?
If you're buying a fragrance just because it's cheap, you may regret it. Yeah, you save some money, but would you wear it often. If a $40 fragrance were priced at $100, would you still get it? If not, then you can probably save that money for a fragrance you like more.
Let's say a fragrance is $160, just pretend it's $100. You'd be more likely to buy it. If it's something you like, better to get than three cheap fragrances because they were cheap.
I don't get it.
This is a good way of thinking about it Drakkar. I never really thought to make myself think it's a different price to see if it is worth buying. Sometimes I come across deals that are just seriously hard to pass up (like today, La Nuit 3.4 and 1.3 together for $35, even though I think it's an "okay" frag).
You could have bought 4.7 oz of La Nuit just because it was $35 (when it would normally be 70+). But you'd be stuck with a lot juice you wouldn't use often.
But instead you can apply that $35 toward a fragrance that you really really like, whether it's a cheapie or an expensive niche.
I don't agree. You should own what you love and love what you own. I do agree that buying something cheap that you don't like is a bad idea. Who needs more junk? But, if you love a $40 fragrance and an $80 fragrance equally, then you should buy either one or both of them depending on what you can afford and have space for. But price does matter. If a $100 fragrance you like were $200, would you still purchase it? What if it were $300? $1000? At some point it will not make sense to buy it. That price point may vary depending on your budget and desire to buy, but economics always matters.
What if there's a fragrance that you would really like to wear when you are in a certain mood, but you are rarely in that mood? You may want to have it, but it may not make sense to buy much of it or pay a lot for it, but I'm not sure one should give up on having it at all, especially if you can get a quantity of it for a low price--even if you know when you buy it that you won't be wearing it a lot. My decision-making is all about if the fragrance is one that I will really enjoy wearing, and then if the price seems appropriate relative to how much I like it, how rare or hard to find it is, and how my big my budget may be. It's not just about price, but price definitely matters.
Last edited by docluv45; 16th December 2012 at 01:28 PM.
I don't really get it either. I own perfumes that cost £30 and ones that cost £300, and I love and wear both.
Price should have no influence on whether you like a perfume.
1. Le 3me Homme - Caron
2. Yatagan - Caron
3. Van Cleef & Arples Pour Homme
4. Dolce & Gabbana pour Homme
5. Kouros - YSL
6. L'Anarchiste - Caron
7. Xeryus - Givenchy
8. Bijan for Men
9. Amber pour Homme - Prada
10. London for Men - Burberry
I have a couple that I didn't pay anywhere near $100 for, but I like them enough that if they were that expensive, I shell out.
I have yet to pay over $60 for a frag, and maybe I am fortunate to be a fan of the old powerhouse frags, which can pretty much all be had for $10-40 or so.
For everyone that doesn't get it...somehow, I'll try and simplify it:
What the OP is saying is that you should judge a fragrance based on how much you love it to determine whether you should purchase it, not its price. So, if you find yourself being swayed by some awesome deal, as yourself: "If this fragrance was $100 instead of (insert low price here), would I still buy it?" The idea is to see just how much you like it, stripping away other factors and instead focusing on price.
It's not a perfect method, as other things like occasion or collection can come into play, but for a lot of people it can help and be used as a helpful aid or deciding factor.
Hope I could clear this up.
I get it but I don't agree with the logic. Say you go to McDonald's and order a cheeseburger. Then the next week the price has bumped all the way to $27.00. That would be ridiculous to buy a processed cheeseburger for that amount. You can use that money to buy a nice steak dinner instead. That doesn't mean I still won't eat at McDonald's every once in awhile for a great price.
Now compare that to fragrances. I enjoy Joop! Homme because I think it is a great scent for the price. If Joop! Homme was $100 instead, I would not purchase the bottle. That does not mean I will continually wear that fragrance because I do enjoy the scent and I think I got a fair deal for what I paid for. You can't just use the "$100.00 rule" because then your judgments are based on materiality and you lose the essence of why you have a passion for this hobby.
Went over my head. But if a fragrance costs $160.00, than my faculties register $160.00. Their are no mind games. $160.00 is not $50.00 or $100.00. It remains $160.00 throughout. It is more about whether or not you a purchasing within your financial means, rather than playing endless mind games and trying to keep up with the jones'.
If I could get a $500 valued bottle for $100 and I know that this scent is just OK, I would personally not buy it. Though some probably would buy it and resale it later for profit.
In my case, the price (below a certain point) isn't the main issue; the main issue is "space". By that I mean both literal physical space, and space in time--there's a limit to how many fragrances I can have and expect to wear with any frequency. I've already passed the space in time limit - if I rotated all my bottles evenly, I'd only wear each one about five times a year. And that's ignoring samples and decants.
But, yes, that doesn't eliminate the "it's well-regarded and it's only forty dollars!" temptation, for fragrances that I personally doesn't like, even though it should. (It just adds the further temptation of "...and it's a small one-ounce bottle, just like I like!") So I think I get the point.
Though I have no "maximum price per bottle"-rule, the few times when I purchase a scent bottle more expensive than 100$, its usually either: a) either an oversize quantity of one of my favorite scents or b) some of the rarer, underrated, hard to find designer/niche scent, or even a) and b) combined.
This might be harder to grasp for people that have been collecting for a long time. The thought process is just not there anymore. I think OP is talking to people that are just starting to make a collection; talking to people that do not know what everything smells like.
There are plenty of Basenoters that can smell a frag and know how much use in their rotation it will receive. These veterans can assign a price point at where they think it would be a good idea to pick up a bottle. Usually, they will be comparing it to other frags already in their wardrobe that fill the same purpose. These same people can walk into a discount store and already know how everything smells and know whether to get a bottle or not.
Those new to fragrance collecting have a long road ahead to decide whether they should get a bottle or not. Now that I have started filling some space with bottles, I can decide easier whether something could fit into my wardrobe and at what price point a bottle would become an addition.
I think the OP has a good general advice rule. For myself, I would place the price at closer to $50, as that I wait for frags to appear online at good prices usually. This $50 only applies to frags that are cheaper than that. I would have to make a separate $100 rule for frags that are more expensive that I know would find use.
Last edited by Nosebud; 16th December 2012 at 09:43 PM. Reason: 2x post
I only pick up pennies off the ground if they're heads up. If it's a quarter I'm picking it up no matter what. If it's a $100 bill, I'm going to look around, put my foot over the money, and pretend to tie my shoe when I pick it up and put it in my pocket. I could care less how it smells.
tl;dr - You should only buy fragrances that represent a good value to you. Fin.
"For chocolate, nature uses eight hundred molecules. I use two". - Jean-Claude Ellena
Buy what you like for the reasons that seem good to you. Whether they be scent, projection, longevity, concept, theme, brand, provence, vintage, reputation, popularity, exclusivity, price - high or low, - bottle, compliments, or anything else. It's your money. You work for it. Spend it to please yourself for whatever reasons seem best to you.
When someone else offers to do your job and mail you the paycheques then let them tell you why or how or for what reasons you should spend your money. Let's all just be proof that a fragrant hobby can improve your life and make you happy. However you pursue it and no matter why.
The factors that go into whether you buy something include: price, how much do I like it, availability, do I have something similar already, do I think I'll wear it much, would my partner like it, what situations could I wear it in, and possibly loads of others. Where each person sits on any of those spectrums is up to him - no generic rule is going to apply to everyone.
Personally I use Kouros as the benchmark. Would I wear this when I could wear Kouros? Is it worth the cash if I could buy another bottle of Kouros instead? Etc
^+1 for the mediator. Good quotes from silentrich and Russel as well
Personally, i am not a "collector". This is not a hobby for me. I like to expand my horizons and find new scents, which is why i am here. But i do not buy fragrances like some kind of baseball card hobby.
I have a decent amount of fragrances. Probably too many. But i always give stuff away to family and friends that i don't see my using any time soon, or at all.
I would never buy anything JUST because its a good deal.
The only fragrances i have have that you see reserves of, are my main scents. And thats partly out of convenience, and partly because these bastard companies are constantly reformulating scents. I learned my lesson with D&G PH.
I saw a bottle of Declaration at TJ not too long ago on clearance for $30. I think its decent, but i don't need it. And i'm sure someone else out there would thank the fragrance Gods when they saw their favorite frag on sale for $30! So i left it for them
There are so many factors in price I don't see how this could be anything but confusing...what size are we talking about? Used? New? MSRP? Anyways, I barely take price into account anymore when I smell something. If I like it enough I'll find a way to get to the price it's listed for.
Instead of price being my litmus test (which, yes is still a consideration for me), I simply pit frags I'm testing against others I already have. I don't have a systematic approach, or set rotation to wearing my fragrances. So, naturally, my true "favorites" begin to reveal themselves over time. I wear whatever strikes my fancy for that particular day, occasion, event, etc. So, if I find a fragrance too similar to something I already have and wouldn't choose to wear it over that, I won't buy it, even if I do "like" it. If I'm testing a frag and like it, but just know that I'll rarely wear it, or choose it over others in my collection, I also won't buy it.
On the flip side, if I find something that I absolutely love and know I'll wear it often and likely choose it over some others I already have, then I'm not overly concerned about the price and I'll find a way to get it, even if it's in a split or a decant of whatever amount I can afford at that time.
The price has to justify the purchase.
Yes, I do look at the price of a fragrance before purchasing it. Have I ever picked a cheap, nice fragrance over an expensive, great (assuming great equates to something better than "nice) fragrance? Countless times.
I prefer Bleu De Chanel over half of my $50- bottles. However, I have not purchased it SOLEY because of the price.
It is hard not to be a sucker for good deals. I usually apply the rule, if it was double the price, would i buy it?
I think for fragrance, as for clothes (of which I am also fond) there is no arbitrary price; it depends more on how much I love it, and how much use I think I'll get out of it. Estimated cost per wear.
Something that costs $100 a bottle, which I have a certain liking for, but don't love, would not be worth it. The same thing, in a bargain bin for $30? Totally worth it. Something I absolutely adore, which costs $500 (ahem!) -- don't care. If I can scrape together the cash, I'm getting it.
Ditto clothes. I get special-occasion dresses as cheap as I can find them -- Value Village, if possible -- because that's the kind of thing I'll wear once a year maybe. An all-purpose winter coat, though? I'll spend a few hundred on the perfect one, because I'll be wearing it regularly each winter for ten years if I don't rip it catastrophically or gain any startling amounts of weight.
My $600 Tribute sits right next to my $19 Thallium Black...each has a different appeal...There are $300 Creeds I wouldn't take for free, and $19 Chesapeake Bay Spyce Cologne That I would have paid $100 for.
Who says that $100 is cheap?
That's a whole month's mortgage and half a week's income!
If I buy a scent that's even vaguely near that cost then it would have to be because I ADORE it and CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT.
I have yet to find any scent that I love so much that I have to stop eating for a week to afford it and haven't ever spent that much on a fragrance, even when I did have the money to spend.
i'd prefer to get a fragrance based on its value to me personally, not the value given to it by the mass market. prices vary based on a number of external factors - basic economics of supply, demand, branding, etc - but all these have no bearing on my personal relationship with the scent. so what if the scent is cheap or expensive? if its something i like, i'd get it.
though i suppose the $100 rule is useful to put into perspective just how much you really value a fragrance. but ideally, you ought to be able to tell its value just from its scent and the charismatic effect it has on you, and not the sticker on the bottle.
I'm trying to avoid smaller purchases that quickly add up and save for those two, special high-silage Niche gems. It's difficult.
The $100 Rule - Try to buy a tester instead
I have several fragrances I have purchased for under 40$ that I love and adore... had the cost of them been 100$ I probably would got them but just at a slower pace. Not because I don't think they are worth 100$ but more because I don't feel like spending 100$ on a bottle of parfume every time I want a new scent! On the flip side there a more than a few fragrances that sell for well over 100$ that if I could get for 100$ I would pull the trigger on because my brain is telling me I am getting them for a steal... it does not mean they are worth the 100$ though.
Not sure if that made much sense but for me I try to get everything I love at the best price possible and after getting everything I love I start shopping for bargains on stuff I have never tried (whether that bargain is a 60$ bottle marked down to 20$ or a 200$ bottle marked down to 100$).
Living each day one spray at a time
I look at the bottle, I look at the price. I ponder if the money they want for it is worth it for me. If so, I buy it. I have my core collection already, so I'm only interested in new stuff if I really can't live without it.
It's that simple for me.
By your criterion, I should have left all those scents there, instead waiting for more expensive scents to become available that I will like more.
The simple fact is that pretty much all scents come out at around $100, or a lot more for premium or niche ones. I don't understand your rationale to pay the higher prices, when one day they can probably be had for a lot less for the exact same scent.
For $100, one can get a pretty good instant collection by checking out sales and the internet. I'm extremely fond of my $7 big bottles of Weekend Burberry and Nautica Classic, and even my $5 bottle of Pirates of the Caribbean gets a work out on warm weather days.
But if you are talking about rubbish cheap scents - scents made cheap from cheap ingredients and intended to be sold cheap from the outset (e.g. Lomani and copy scents), then I agree with your sentiments. There is a big difference between those made-cheap scents and the heavily discounted formerly-expensive cheap scents.
Last edited by Renato; 2nd April 2013 at 06:15 PM.
If it was modern prices I'd be on the street or in a social housing bedsit or similar, because I've spent the last 17 years being very ill and failing to earn my own living. My income is provided by the illness insurance that I took out in my early 20s when being diagnosed with cancer was never going to happen to me, and certainly would never change my life only 3 years later.
I was just trying to illustrate to people that for an awful lot of the world $100 is NOT cheap and there are probably far more people who buy bargain scents and enjoy them than there are people who think that a $100 fragrance is cheap.
BTW- arrived this morning is a bottle of Arran Aromatics After the Rain, and it's just fabulous. Every bit as lovely to inhale as some of the more prestigious fragrances that I own, everybody else clearly thinks so too since I had 5 people ask me what scent I was wearing when I was out for lunch and even with postage a 100ml bottle was less than £10 (about $15 US).
I can't afford to even try some of the more expensive scents, but does that make my enjoyment and experimentation of fragrance any less valid than someone who can spend $500 on a large bottle of Creed without planning how to afford it?
I think it's a mix of how much you like the fragrance, and whether YOU think that it's worth it.
Today I'm sampling Prelude to Love. I really like it, and for me, it smells like Neroli Portofino, which I also like a lot. I'm not sure which I prefer, but I wouldn't buy the slightly cheaper one because it's cheaper.
I wouldn't try and find a cheaper alternative either. If I found one I preferred, AND that was cheaper, fantastic- but I wouldn't buy it because it's cheaper. If I wear Prelude to Love a few more times and I find myself crazy about it, I'd most likely save up for it. I'd rather save up for X amount of time to get something I want, than buy a cheaper alternative that I wish was the one I actually wanted. I think that's a waste of money.