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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by noirdrakkar View Post
    But is it really that simple though.

    Aventus, from what I hear, is much stronger, so you use much less of it, so in the end, the price per usage is not that different.

    also, i heard the same thing about al rehab silver and rochas man. yuck.
    Think you'd have to practically bath in Fresco. Another thing is that Creed's go quicker because of the huge amount of juice you get out of the sprayer. Basically 1 spray of Creed is equal to about 3 sprays of a normal fragrance. Even if you can use Fresco as an alternative to maybe prolong your bottle of Aventus it's well worth paying less than $30 to do so.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Today was my second and final day of wearing Fresco. I met up with friends for happy hour and got their feedback (3 women. 1 in her late 20s, 2 are in their early 30s). Of the three, one was neutral ("It's ok I guess. I don't know.") The other two vetoed it. I think the first woman was too shy to give an honest opinion. It's ok I guess = no thanks, if you ask me, but who knows. Well, I suppose she knows, but like I said, she seemed too shy to say.

    I don't think Fresco is 'bad' but I don't care for the bubblegum in the sweetness of it. To my nose, it's no substitute for the real thing, even if it is only 1/10 the price. If you want to smell good, for the money, I think there are better options.

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    Actually, I kind of do think it smells bad, but I'm trying to be nice since the hype seems to really matter to some folks
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    The Fresco is fading quick. It's still certainly there, but it's sitting a lot closer to the skin that Aventus does at the 3.5 hour mark (or the 8 hour mark, for that matter).

    I'm viewing Fresco as a much safer Aventus. If I really enjoyed wearing Aventus but needed to tone it down for one reason or another, I think having Fresco in the collection would make an excellent substitute on the odd occasion.

    This is the kind of fragrance I would like to bring around with me in a 10mL travel atomiser - apply before work, then reapply in the mid-afternoon and it would transition well into an evening scent.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    I cant believe the mentality here. Why is everyone expecting this to be an exact replica of Aventus?? Why?? Fresco is just Fresco, another scent, another cologne. If it smells similar to Aventus with its own twist then it is what it is and good for them. Smells like bubblegum , smells like Alcohol, smells like bazooka Why the hate? Because it did not meet your clone expectations so now you have to throw dirt at it?? It's simple buy Aventus then.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by RunSun View Post
    Well, picked up a bottle from ebay as well reading through the thread and just got it about an hour ago. One spray of Aventus on one wrist and Fresco on the other. The initial spray had me questioning if I had ordered the wrong bottle as it smelled nothing like Aventus and was more lemon than pineapple. The drydown as others have mentioned is somewhat similar to Aventus.

    There is a definite similarity, but the difference is still pretty obvious to me. The lack of birch tar and the replacement of natural elements with synthetic ones makes it quite obvious which is which to my nose.

    However, this is by no means a terrible scent and for $30-35 for a 100ml, its not a bad buy at all. Its definitely Aventus-lite, but it can be useful in the sense that I would feel comfortable using this as a casual / workplace scent where with Creed Aventus I sometimes feel silly using such an expensive fragrance on non-special occasions.
    Just received my full bottle today and I think that RunSun's review sums it all up perfectly. This is not a replacement for Aventus, but its certainly not a bad $30 scent.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by noirdrakkar View Post
    But is it really that simple though.

    Aventus, from what I hear, is much stronger, so you use much less of it, so in the end, the price per usage is not that different
    In a word, "yes".

    Also, as silentrich mentions above, the price differential is so relatively wide between the two scents that the potency differential in favor of Aventus does not even come close to making up the monetary savings by purchasing of Fresco if one feels the scents are relatively similar (and of course you are willing to accept that there are indeed *some* differences between the two, however minor). Spray quantity and the overly generous Creed sprayers previously mentioned aside, there is no doubt in my mind Aventus is the considerably more potent scent (as the sprayer I used for my side-by-side test was from an Aventus decant sprayer and not the Creed bottle), but Aventus smells worse on the whole to me for reasons I have mentioned in the thread earlier (except its superior opening) and costs a whole lot more... Easy decision (if one likes the style and smell of either, which I personally don't).
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Today was my second and final day of wearing Fresco. I met up with friends for happy hour and got their feedback (3 women. 1 in her late 20s, 2 are in their early 30s). Of the three, one was neutral ("It's ok I guess. I don't know.") The other two vetoed it. I think the first woman was too shy to give an honest opinion. It's ok I guess = no thanks, if you ask me, but who knows. Well, I suppose she knows, but like I said, she seemed too shy to say.

    I don't think Fresco is 'bad' but I don't care for the bubblegum in the sweetness of it. To my nose, it's no substitute for the real thing, even if it is only 1/10 the price. If you want to smell good, for the money, I think there are better options.

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    Actually, I kind of do think it smells bad, but I'm trying to be nice since the hype seems to really matter to some folks
    At least the other two didn't say it smelled like cat pee like two girls at my work did last night.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Hm.. just got around to smell the sample i got in today. it does remind me of aventus. especially the dry down. it's definitely much poorer quality in my opinion, but not a bad scent by itself. it also reminds me a bit of vince camuto (which is essentially my work-safe aventus, as its just pepper with no fruit on me.). To me its like a lighter, more synthetic, fruitier, thinner/flatter version of aventus. it can work well as a summer scent.

    To use an analogy, Aventus is like the original song on vinyl with the classic singer, deep soulful sexy and bold, fresca is the new age cover song on mp3, same tune but without the soul but more with more teen/radio trendy pop. While still good, its nowhere near the same as the original. (if you can't tell im a huge aventus fan. lol)

    As a $30 its not bad, but i dunno if i would buy it. It lacks the richness and smoky sexyness that's in aventus that I love (and so far girls seem to love as well). If you compare it to aventus its a cheap knockoff, although a well done one. If its by itself its a pretty decent scent, but i'd actually prefer some designers over this, even if had to pay more...

    but yeah. i'd say, if you got 30 bucks to burn on sumthin new and smells pretty good, go for it. its a pretty good deal. but if youre looking to add / complete your collection, i'd say skip this one, save the money for something much nicer. If you want aventus, get aventus. this is far from a replacement in my opinion.

    However, as some people have stated, if you don't like aventus, especially for its smoky, thicker, and more potent qualities, and want something lighter, this might be good for you. Though, if you want lighter and more pepper without the sweets, try vince camuto for men.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Whitealltrac View Post
    I cant believe the mentality here. Why is everyone expecting this to be an exact replica of Aventus?? Why?? Fresco is just Fresco, another scent, another cologne. If it smells similar to Aventus with its own twist then it is what it is and good for them. Smells like bubblegum , smells like Alcohol, smells like bazooka Why the hate? Because it did not meet your clone expectations so now you have to throw dirt at it?? It's simple buy Aventus then.
    I think people are expecting it to be near Aventus because that it what the company aimed for. If you aspire to be a near-exact clone of Aventus, people are going to judge you on how well you achieve it. Bear in mind that this isn't an established house that is trying to follow a trend in scent established by Aventus, but is instead a company that has made one fragrance whose sole intent is to a replica. When a company's one and only foray into scents is an attempt to copy another one, people will naturally judge it based on the benchmark they are reaching for. If they had made their own unique scent for their launch, or were a house with several scents in their lineup, I think people would judge them much less stringently.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Christian M View Post
    I think this thread is going to turn into an "I prefer/have Aventus, so I'll talk this down or try hard to point out infidelities" and "I don't want to pay $300 for Aventus, this sh^t is awesome!"

    Just an observation. I'll probably just look around for a 1oz decant of the Aventus pineapple batch.
    You pretty much summed it up. Half say it smells like Aventus, the other have says it doesn't, or nitpicking small differences as if we couldn't do that with different batch variations of Aventus itself.

    I'd like to see a poll of who feel it does and who feels it doesn't because I know for a fact the average nose will not be able to tell the difference. Of course there's subtle differences, I even state that in the video. Depending on what batch you have, it smells very similar to Aventus. That's the only claim I made, and in my video I even stated I STILL MAY BUY AVENTUS, but people only hear/see what they want to. I guess that's better for their conspiracy theories.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Classé View Post
    Coach Rob as actually done this before with his Signature Scent Kiton which apparently he said it smelled similar to Aventus. After, purchasing a sample of Kiton and finding it's nothing like Aventus. This new discovery i'll take it with a grain of salt.
    No what I said was Kiton Men opening is similar to GIT, or Chez bonds. I said Kiton also had a suede vibe that's similar to what I get from Aventus. I also said Al Rehab Silver smells like Creed SMW. Would you like to dispute that also?

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappio View Post
    I think people are expecting it to be near Aventus because that it what the company aimed for. If you aspire to be a near-exact clone of Aventus, people are going to judge you on how well you achieve it. Bear in mind that this isn't an established house that is trying to follow a trend in scent established by Aventus, but is instead a company that has made one fragrance whose sole intent is to a replica. When a company's one and only foray into scents is an attempt to copy another one, people will naturally judge it based on the benchmark they are reaching for. If they had made their own unique scent for their launch, or were a house with several scents in their lineup, I think people would judge them much less stringently.
    How do you know what the company aimed for? None of us do, this company is a mystery at this point. All we actually know is that they made 1 fragrance called Fresco. The only information I found about them was some cookie cutter spill about making affordable quality fragrances. So for all we know they just made a fragrance they thought smelled good. Some say's it smells nothing like Aventus, some say it's Aventus-lite which I would agree with.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tappio View Post
    I think people are expecting it to be near Aventus because that it what the company aimed for. If they had made their own unique scent for their launch, or were a house with several scents in their lineup, I think people would judge them much less stringently.
    Wow, just wow! I guess you work for Ilum Deam??? No one knows if this was an attempt to clone anything.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by ScentsforRob View Post
    How do you know what the company aimed for? None of us do, this company is a mystery at this point. All we actually know is that they made 1 fragrance called Fresco. The only information I found about them was some cookie cutter spill about making affordable quality fragrances. So for all we know they just made a fragrance they thought smelled good. Some say's it smells nothing like Aventus, some say it's Aventus-lite which I would agree with.
    Are you kidding me? Have you read the notes for both fragrances? They're both nearly identical. It was not a mistake, that's exactly what they were trying to do.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Fresco has arrived safe and sound in the good old UK (no leaks)...OK, I can certainly see the similarities with Aventus. It's an imitation fragrance for sure. It's NOT however a replacement for the real thing. It's heavy on synthetic pineapple but there is also that smoky quality which makes it the closest thing to Aventus you will find bar none. Somebody said it had a dry bubblegum note which I completely agree with. You don't notice it at first but it's definitely there. The likeness to Aventus is closest around an hour into the dry down. It's hard to pick them apart at times. Overall it's not bad at all. As a stand alone I think it's worth £25 for 100ml but its still lightyears behind Aventus and I don't see it as a direct replacement......and in my opinion, nor should anyone else.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by xray View Post
    I'm not worried about anything. I'm simply explaining why others would be dubious of someone reviewing something he has a stake in. But you knew that.

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    That's relevant how?


    I mentioned that already. I also mentioned that his plan is to get compensated.
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    since its similar to aventus, anyone get any compliments on this yet?

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Not even one, uno, zero, nada compliments on Aventus yet and this from a party animal...me!
    I hope I do get one with Fresco....that will make my day!

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    Looks like the first bottle has made it's way to the marketplace..

    http://www.basenotes.net/threads/300...Fresco-US-INTL
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    It's been 4 hours now and it still smells just like Aventus. It's linear, but what everyone loves about Aventus is in the opening and that is what you get all the way through this fragrance.
    Almost everyone. I like the opening but the mid-end is what
    keeps it real for me. Been wearing it a lot lately...
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Update: wore it today, kinda hate it actually, haha. The scent itself is not bad like i mentioned previously, but it just doenst play well with my skin chemistry. it lasts actually quite long (5 hrs or so and still present), but its like super synthetic smelling on me.

    I get like a flattened warp-plasticy pineapple scent...like if you took an empty stale pineapple juice plastic bottle and melted it bit in a smoker..smelling from far its got a very similar scent trail to aventus, but upon close sniff its kinda nasty, at least on my skin. I would hate for a girl to like the smell from far away, and then get close to me and then back away because of the cheap and repulsive scent ..=T Maybe it works better on other people?

    After testing i'd definitely recommend getting a sample first since its only 2bucks shipped. If it works great for your skin and you dig the scent its a great budget buy. However Aventus it is not. Those wanting a cheap aventus alternative beware.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    im gonna put up a review soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunny5011 View Post
    since its similar to aventus, anyone get any compliments on this yet?
    Yeah actually. I was told by two female coworkers that it smelled like cat pee.
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    This thread is getting old. #lastvisit

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovescully View Post
    Just received my full bottle today and I think that RunSun's review sums it all up perfectly. This is not a replacement for Aventus, but its certainly not a bad $30 scent.
    Update: Sorry I forgot to mention for those that are interested, my bottle arrived in Australia all the way from the USA in perfect order; no leaks or other problems.

    Also, it lasted a good 6 to 7 hours before it completely dissapeared and I don't get any kind of bubblegum vibe from this. The weird thing I did notice over the life of this, was that it actually began to resemble Aventus more as time passed.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    First it was Jaguar Vision...now this mess.
    If you want Aventus, buy Aventus.
    This thread has been amusing, but
    It's run its course...
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    smells similar to aventus but lacks its projection

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Quote Originally Posted by mesaboogie View Post
    Yeah actually. I was told by two female coworkers that it smelled like cat pee.
    Well that's not good. Go ask the fat chicks what they think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    Well that's not good. Go ask the fat chicks what they think.
    the scent is turning sour during the dry down. i understand the cat pee comment.

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    Will give it a pass. I can only wear one scent a day and honestly don't need this in my collection.

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