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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Just got a 3.3oz bottle in the mail 5 minutes ago.

    NOT an exact clone.

    60% aventus
    20% Dunhill Custom
    10 % Oscar for men
    10% bitter awful "SD-alcohol 40-b" smell.

    The 40-b bitter smell is what makes people equate it to cheap drugstore scents. No Birch, Juniper, and def no natural patchouli. The smokiness is a dated smokey note used in late 80's & 90's perfumes....a very "cuminy smoke", like Oscar for men.

    The green apple and isobutavan are identical to aventus and stronger. the rubbery heart florals and evernyl (synthetic oakmoss molecule) are there but weaker. Black currant and bergamot are lacking.


    Not bad for those that like the apple/pineapple/vanilla aspects of aventus. But TOTALLY not an exact clone, and discerning noses will be underwhelmed, and not fully satisfied despite th eobvious huge savings.

    more later as it dries down further.

    Anyone that hates rubbing alcohol 40-b and that cheap "dry smokey cumin" note used in so many cheap scents will not be able to get past those aspects of FRESCO.
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    Can you explain this a bit more, Dullah? "SD-alcohol 40-b"
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    Just got my bottle (no leaks) and my first impression is this is "Aventus Light" as someone mentioned before. Aventus is a deeper richer scent. I find the opening blast the most similar to Aventus. I just asked my wife what she thought and her first reaction was that it smelled "familiar" (she doesn't really pay attention to my wardrobe). I told her it was a knockoff of one I own. I then asked her if she got more pineapple or lemon and she said pineapple. I get a little lemon vibe that I don't from Aventus so I was happy to hear that from her. I need to wait for the drydown to comment more. Definitely a decent scent for $30 unless there are longevity and projection problems.
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    Interesting review DULLAH...
    If this is only 60% Aventus.... hmmm IDK....

    Can someone tell me the shipping price for a sample to Europe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Can you explain this a bit more, Dullah? "SD-alcohol 40-b"
    Cheap rubbing alcohol with a bitter element added, used to discourage drinking by homeless alcoholics. 40-b isn't really used in fine fragrance anymore. 80's and 90's some lower end designers still used it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suppressor View Post
    Interesting review DULLAH...
    If this is only 60% Aventus.... hmmm IDK....

    Can someone tell me the shipping price for a sample to Europe?
    The theme and effect is similar in the heart....smokey florals, but weaker, and the smoky/earthy notes used are different and less to my liking. I hate this cheap stale cumin woody note....SO DATED>

    The increased perceptional presence of isobutavan's powdery aspect tries to make this scent seem like aventus, but what surrounds the florals and iso and evernyl is dated trash. I want to get past this stage and analize the musk structure to see what they used there.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Just got the bottle. No leakage as other reported. Initial thoughts - Opens like Aventus, smells light, more fruity than smokey. I can smell the lemon (hate it) and alcohol. Will report later about longevity, projection.

    THIS WILL NOT REPLACE MY AVENTUS

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    Wow, so almost everyone who bought a sample received a full bottle? I'll probably receive my order on Thursday.




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    Just received a non-leaking bottle of Fresco today. As compared to my Aventus, I find the pineapple note is not quite as sparkling as in the Aventus, but as this dries down it begins to smell more and more like a lighter Aventus.There is not much difference at all to my nose after these 3 or 4 hours. For those who complain of olfactory fatigue with Aventus, I think that will be much less a problem with Fresco. Overall while there are slight differences they are not significant enough to make a difference to me. Aventus costs roughly 8 times as much as Fresco, and the faint differences do not justify the much greater cost of the Creed. I personally will not purchase the Creed again if Fresco remains available.

  9. #249

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    Thanks Dullah!

    I'm still waiting to see what I get. The app I use for tracking says the package is out for delivery, but my building gets its mail so darn late every day.
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    I received the sample I ordered today, no free full bottle. I've never smelled Aventus, but this definitely has a sweeter, pineapple-floral vibe that is not in my typical zone. To be honest, I wouldn't be suprised to smell this on a high school girl.

    If this is Aventus or Aventus light, maybe I'll keep spending my money on booze.

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    The pineapple is definitely a bit sweeter than aventus.

    Longevity after 4 hours so far is great
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralmeida View Post
    If this is Aventus or Aventus light, maybe I'll keep spending my money on booze.
    God, I love this thread so much!!!
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    Any info on batch numbers?
    Are you not entertained??? Is this not why you are here??

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    How's longevity for those that have bottles? I get about 5 to 6 hours before it becomes a light skin scent or disappears altogether.

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    Ordered the sample today. Hopefully the price doesn't rise before I can get my nose on it.
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    My sample finally arrived. I bought a 2ml sample, but the confirmation email said they'd sent a 3.3fl oz. A 2ml sample is in fact what arrived, and I must say, I'm not disappointed they didn't actually send me 3.3 oz of this stuff.

    I suspect the hype for Fresco will fade as people realize this isn't Aventus for $30. Fresco is definitely an attempt at cloning Aventus, but I can't help thinking they'd have been better off if they'd tried to make a great scent rather than trying to copy the work of others. There's a richness to Aventus that Fresco is missing. And the pineapple isn't exactly pineapple anymore.

    Anyone else getting a bubblegum scent here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    My sample finally arrived. I bought a 2ml sample, but the confirmation email said they'd sent a 3.3fl oz. A 2ml sample is in fact what arrived, and I must say, I'm not disappointed they didn't actually send me 3.3 oz of this stuff.

    I suspect the hype for Fresco will fade as people realize this isn't Aventus for $30. Fresco is definitely an attempt at cloning Aventus, but I can't help thinking they'd have been better off if they'd tried to make a great scent rather than trying to copy the work of others. There's a richness to Aventus that Fresco is missing. And the pineapple isn't exactly pineapple anymore.

    Anyone else getting a bubblegum scent here?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    My sample finally arrived. I bought a 2ml sample, but the confirmation email said they'd sent a 3.3fl oz. A 2ml sample is in fact what arrived, and I must say, I'm not disappointed they didn't actually send me 3.3 oz of this stuff.

    I suspect the hype for Fresco will fade as people realize this isn't Aventus for $30. Fresco is definitely an attempt at cloning Aventus, but I can't help thinking they'd have been better off if they'd tried to make a great scent rather than trying to copy the work of others. There's a richness to Aventus that Fresco is missing. And the pineapple isn't exactly pineapple anymore.

    Anyone else getting a bubblegum scent here?
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    I think it's the extra sweetness in the citrus/fruit note of Fresco that take it into bubblegum territory for me. Even the smoke here... the combination reminds me of when I was a kid, opening the gum packages that had a cartoon printed on the inside of the wrapper. There was always a powdery sugar dust inside the wrapper (and the cartoon was never funny, but that's beside the point). I'm not saying Fresco is dusty, by the way. I'm specifically talking about the smell I remember from childhood... the smell of the gum and the inside of the wrapper. The longer I wear Freso, the more it reminds me of that smell.

    Fresco is sweeter than Aventus. Or maybe the lack of richness calls more attention to the sweetness? I'm only about an hour into it. It'll be interesting to see where it goes and how it changes.
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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    I think this thread is going to turn into an "I prefer/have Aventus, so I'll talk this down or try hard to point out infidelities" and "I don't want to pay $300 for Aventus, this sh^t is awesome!"

    Just an observation. I'll probably just look around for a 1oz decant of the Aventus pineapple batch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    How's longevity for those that have bottles? I get about 5 to 6 hours before it becomes a light skin scent or disappears altogether.
    I had it on for about 8 hours and I was still getting whiffs of pineapple before I took a shower.

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    Default Re: fresco by ilum deam (an aventus clone?)

    Got my bottle of Fresco today. I have the smokey Aventus so the Fresco is kinda different to what I'm used to, but I would say it's similar to Aventus. Jury's still out on projection, but on first wearing I'm thinking it's below average longevity, but it does linger as a skin scent for awhile though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    I think it's the extra sweetness in the citrus/fruit note of Fresco that take it into bubblegum territory for me. Even the smoke here... the combination reminds me of when I was a kid, opening the gum packages that had a cartoon printed on the inside of the wrapper. There was always a powdery sugar dust inside the wrapper (and the cartoon was never funny, but that's beside the point). I'm not saying Fresco is dusty, by the way. I'm specifically talking about the smell I remember from childhood... the smell of the gum and the inside of the wrapper. The longer I wear Freso, the more it reminds me of that smell.

    Fresco is sweeter than Aventus. Or maybe the lack of richness calls more attention to the sweetness? I'm only about an hour into it. It'll be interesting to see where it goes and how it changes.
    Bazooka Joe!!! Ok....now I smell it, but it's like in the first 2 to 5 seconds. In that time it's almost a sweet nothing type of smell and after 10 seconds or so is when it all comes together to smell like Aventus. I guess it could still be there, but your nose is probably more sensitive to that Bazooka Joe note than mine. Good call!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian M View Post
    I think this thread is going to turn into an "I prefer/have Aventus, so I'll talk this down or try hard to point out infidelities" and "I don't want to pay $300 for Aventus, this sh^t is awesome!"

    Just an observation. I'll probably just look around for a 1oz decant of the Aventus pineapple batch.
    Yeah, it's more of an alternative than a replacement. I love Aventus, but like I said earlier it's hard to wear in my climate so this makes for a fantastic alternative. Plus, some people don't have the means to buy a bottle of Aventus and this is such a price difference it's ridiculous.

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    Can you comment on why you think it's not good for your climate? It's always come off to me as a warmer/mild weather scent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgould25 View Post
    I had it on for about 8 hours and I was still getting whiffs of pineapple before I took a shower.
    That's great longevity. I think my skin sucks it up more, but I'm also wearing it in 75 degree weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian M View Post
    Can you comment on why you think it's not good for your climate? It's always come off to me as a warmer/mild weather scent.
    I've put on 1 spray and I've got several complaints when I've tried to wear it. Once was at work (health care), which was a big no no and the other complaint was from a family member at a dinner which was outside in 80 degree Florida humidity. I don't see why it's classified as a summer fragrance. Outside of the fruityness it's smokey and dark, did I mention it's strong as hell.
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    This evening I received the 3.3oz Fresco bottle that I ordered last week (no leaks). Though I have very little experience breaking down and evaluating fragrance notes/stages like more experienced board members can, I feel fairly confident that Fresco might serve as an Aventus-Lite. I'm basing this on my z01 batch of Aventus, which I really like, but rarely wear.

    I'm interested to see how longevity/projection plays out when I give it a full wear. I've found that my ability to detect Aventus will "disappear" after a few hours due to the anosmia issue of which some members speak. I am curious to see if Fresco might do the same (similar ingredients?)*. I have received random compliments from strangers when wearing Aventus hours after I thought the smell had faded away and could no longer be detected. Always an interesting, yet awkward moment for myself.

    *What is/is there a specific ingredient in Aventus that has sometimes been referenced as/credited for being the a trigger of anosmia in this particular fragrance?

    Though Fresco is not quite the same quality and strength as Aventus, it will very likely serve as a great version of AventusOffice. In fact, it'll be my SOTD to the office tomorrow.

    Oh yeah, PS...most entertaining thread in a long time. Keep it up! I'd love to hear what more people think about Fresco.

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    we watch the fresco get torn to bits and pieces by scathing reviews.

    and it looks like what started in great hype is soon to crash into the ground

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    OK! In case you're curious, here's my review:

    It's now 12:50 am and I'm going to bed. I've worn Fresco and Aventus, side by side, for seven and a half hours. Here are my thoughts:

    Bazooka Joe! God, I haven't seen that stuff in years, but that's the sort of smell I'm getting from Fresco. It's not all I'm getting, but at five hours in, as Fresco was fading away, the bubblegum was still definitely there. I'm not saying that as a way to judge whether Fresco is 'good' or 'bad' but the bubblegum note isn't something I enjoy. I should also note that by the six hour mark, Fresco was gone, whereas seven-plus hours in, Aventus is still going strong.

    On a positive note, I'm rethinking my statements about a lack of richness. I expected Fresco to be like Love & Luck, but with pineapple - in other words, I expected fruit water. That's not it at all. Fresco has richness, though it differs from the richness of Aventus. I need to learn more fragrance terminology because I'm struggling to explain the difference, but if we were talking about sound, Aventus would have more bass whereas Fresco has more treble, if that makes sense. There's a whiteness to the smoke in Fresco - if indeed that is smoke. It's different than the darker, perhaps thicker, smoke of Aventus, but it's no less there.

    I can see how some will find this an adequate substitute for Aventus. That's why I bought a sample. Initially, my thinking was, if this truly is a substitute, I'd sell my nearly full 4oz Aventus and buy a bottle of this, ending up with a great scent plus at least $100 in my pocket. Cha-CHING! I don't care about brands or labels. I care about smells. I'll pay top dollar if a scent is worth it to me, but I love a bargain too (for example, I'm a fan of Corduroy by Zirh, which can be had for as little as $10). But now that I've had a chance to compare and contrast Fresco with Aventus, I certainly won't be selling my Aventus to buy this, even if I could pocket over $100 in the process.

    I think Ilum Dean could have had an out of the ballpark home run if they would have taken Fresco in a slightly different direction. Give it a bit of spice and change the not-quite-pineapple to something that leans more toward the other side of the tropical. In other words, capitalize on what this scent does well rather than trying to copy Creed. Let's be honest: if you try to copy that pineapple note but miss, you end up with something really cheap. By trying to copy Aventus, in my opinion, they ended up with a scent that is the perfume version of the being the brother of a famous actor. "Hey, guess what?! I met Stallone!" Sylvester? "No. Frank." Wah-waaaah. (To be fair, Frank Stallone is a very accomplished musician.)

    For someone who loves the smell of Aventus, I'd recommend Aventus - not because it's a Creed, but because it IS that smell.

    For someone in the crowd that MUST HAVE AVENTUS FOR PANTYDROPPER AND/OR HYPE, I'd recommend Fresco, only for the sake of saving the poor misguided dolt a lot of cash.

    For someone who just wants to smell great and only has $35-ish to spend, I'd recommend something else entirely. Perry Ellis Red for an AdG vibe or Caron Le 3 for something more regal. L'essence de Cerruti perhaps or maybe even Ed Hardy's Love & Luck.

    My point here is: it's wise to ask yourself "Why am I buying this?" Are you buying it for yourself? Buy what you really want. Do you want the most bang for the buck? I think there are better options. Are you wanting something to wear on a date? Again, there are better options. Do you want it for the sake of OMGINEEDZHYPETRAIN!!!!!? Obviously, buy Fresco.

    Fresco isn't bad, but being not-bad isn't the same as being good. I know I'll get flak for saying that, but it's my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    How's longevity for those that have bottles? I get about 5 to 6 hours before it becomes a light skin scent or disappears altogether.
    I only have a sample, but with the spray sample that should function the same I got about 8 hours which for me is average. I got about 10-11 with the the Aventus I had on the other arm. Even when both were going full strength you could easily tell that the Aventus was stronger (strength-wise) from start to finish.



    Some random unrelated side-by-side comments after a day's contemplation:

    The pineapple of Fresco seemed to miss the quality of Aventus by a hair due to lacking a bit of sparkle/acidity, with it coming off as a bit soft and muted in comparison (but no bubblegum detected by me). Both scents had a similar smoky dry-down, but the Fresco spared me from the synthetic smoke overload of Aventus that I loathe so much, leaning more towards the pineapple and that is the primary reason why I prefer it of the two on the whole (well, that and the vast price differential). Neither is my kind of scent and I still can't relate to the love either gets really, but at least Fresco is wearable.
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    What I get in this thread is Pay 9 times the price of Fresco because of marginal differences? Aventus owners fight back! Say what? Lol
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