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    You know, Kumquat, I think including the letter made the whole package go First Class.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 30 Roses View Post
    You know, Kumquat, I think including the letter made the whole package go First Class.
    That's how they get you.
    The reason I say I think it would have been less- first he said something like "Oh, are you just forwarding mail?" Then he got the bright idea to ask if I'd included a note.

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    I buy more than a few bottles on ebay and just about all come USPS First Class or Priority. One guy recently said the PO told him that it could not be sent with any of their services, so he eventually decided to use FedEx, but before that it's been at least 90% First Class or Priority.

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    I shipped some samples out the other day and even told the guy, unsolicited, that they were perfumes. He didn't seem to care.

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    I sell fragrances from time to time on eBay. Some are new in box, and some have been previously used. I recently mailed a 1/3 full bottle of Marc Jacobs. The buyer asked for a refund because the bottle was not as advertised. I requested a photo of the item as she'd received it. The liquid had turned dark and she said it was all "gassy". Perhaps I've been duped or perhaps there is something to shipping fragrances by ground and not via Priority mail. I lost on that deal and had to refund selling price and shipping. Has anyone else experienced this problem?

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    I recently experienced a major change in my post office. Previously(2 months ago?) they would ask if it was perfume, I'd say yes and they'd ship ground for about $2.95 for a batch of samples in a padded envelope. Now, for the same, they charge $6.95 and ship it Standard Post instead of just First Class Ground. However, I went to a different PO a couple weeks ago and they shipped it First Class Ground, boxes too, for the half price option. They stamped it all over with stamps which say Ground Shipment Only, Liquid, and ORM-D. But my regular PO won't do that. It is making me crazy.

    Oh, and Kumquat, I have had several experiences with that kind of thing too. There is a special rate for Media Mail which I use to ship books and periodicals. If you include any type of note or receipt, then it can't go Media Mail. It's a stupid technicality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danieq View Post
    I recently experienced a major change in my post office. Previously(2 months ago?) they would ask if it was perfume, I'd say yes and they'd ship ground for about $2.95 for a batch of samples in a padded envelope. Now, for the same, they charge $6.95 and ship it Standard Post instead of just First Class Ground. However, I went to a different PO a couple weeks ago and they shipped it First Class Ground, boxes too, for the half price option. They stamped it all over with stamps which say Ground Shipment Only, Liquid, and ORM-D. But my regular PO won't do that. It is making me crazy.
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    My PO will ship first class ground. I mailed 2 perfumes this way just a couple of days ago.

    May I suggest having a talk with your local postmaster-- tell him what happens at the other PO and ask him why his PO is forcing you to go to a higher cost shipping method. He may be unaware that the employees are doing this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 30 Roses View Post
    May I suggest having a talk with your local postmaster-- tell him what happens at the other PO and ask him why his PO is forcing you to go to a higher cost shipping method. He may be unaware that the employees are doing this.
    Yes, the policy should be uniform at all locations.
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    Driving home tonight I saw something I've never seen before, a Postal Police car. I kid you not. It was a white 4 door sedan, looked like a police car, even he'd the driver side spot light!

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    I just googled images-- cool!

    I found this on Wikipedia about the U.S. Postal Inspection Service:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ection_Service
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    I'm kind of miffed at this entire "no shipping" to APO thing. I'm currently deployed to Afghanistan with the Air Force and my wife attempted to ship me a package with a bottle of cologne in it for Christmas. Since she was honest with the postal employee when they asked if it had "perfume or cologne" in it - they refused the package. I don't know why you can't ship these things - since I can put them in my luggage and bring them on a plane (which I had done as well). I'm fairly certian my luggage was handled far more roughly than any package would be - and everything was fine.

    Anyway, just wanted to vent. I'm now going to go back to smelling like Afghanistan, instead of LPH.

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    I go to a mailing service. They are great. They never enquire about the contents. Just be sure it is sealed and wrapped securely in bubble-wrap and peanuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intelrunner View Post
    I'm kind of miffed at this entire "no shipping" to APO thing. I'm currently deployed to Afghanistan with the Air Force and my wife attempted to ship me a package with a bottle of cologne in it for Christmas. Since she was honest with the postal employee when they asked if it had "perfume or cologne" in it - they refused the package. I don't know why you can't ship these things - since I can put them in my luggage and bring them on a plane (which I had done as well). I'm fairly certian my luggage was handled far more roughly than any package would be - and everything was fine.

    Anyway, just wanted to vent. I'm now going to go back to smelling like Afghanistan, instead of LPH.

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    Fragrance companies ship out literally thousands of bottles of cologne every day on planes, but individuals are not allowed to do the same?

    Would she (or you) oppose trying again, and giving a different answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRaider430 View Post
    Fragrance companies ship out literally thousands of bottles of cologne every day on planes, but individuals are not allowed to do the same?
    And seeing as most politicians lie...

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    Actually I always received quickly & smoothly many fragrances from USA & Canada in the past couple of years.
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    I think there is something about shipping dangerous goods in accepted quantities via air mail. I've received packages from Europe marked " DANGEROUS GOODS IN IATA EQ" with a special alert label. I know this is air mail because it leaves Europe and arrives in the U.S. on the same day.

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    Shipping with USPS goes without a hitch if I use Priority Mail and if the piece can fit in their small fixed rate box. Either their box or my own, I print the postage at home on my computer, package it so it doesn't rattle around and drop it into their drop off mail bin. That way I don't have to answer questions at the postal window where some of my local post office people see themselves as agents of Homeland Security, and some don't care at all what I've put in the box. I've not had a problem mailing things this way.

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    I have a question in regards to mailing out samples/small decants. If you say 'no' after being asked by the people working at the post office whether it's a fragrance, will they still check the package anyways? I haven't mailed a package with fragrances inside it since 2012.

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    I ship out 5-10 fragrance bottles a week. I label everything as grooming product sample and have never had any issues. Nobody's ever asked me if it's perfume and if they did I'd lie and say nope. It's don't ask don't tell sort of thing. For letters/envelopes when I put samples, I always say it's a paper booklet (I wrap the samples in cardboard) and that works for them. It's not like these are dangerous or unusual goods, there are companies sending me packages of fragrance all the time so why shouldn't I be able to send some out myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master-Classter View Post
    I ship out 5-10 fragrance bottles a week. I label everything as grooming product sample and have never had any issues. Nobody's ever asked me if it's perfume and if they did I'd lie and say nope. It's don't ask don't tell sort of thing. For letters/envelopes when I put samples, I always say it's a paper booklet (I wrap the samples in cardboard) and that works for them. It's not like these are dangerous or unusual goods, there are companies sending me packages of fragrance all the time so why shouldn't I be able to send some out myself
    I just hope they don't tamper with it...for precautionary reasons and find out that I was lying. BTW isn't there policies that forbid them from opening up packages?

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    only customs or border people can actually open a package, and that's only if they suspect it's something illegal. A bottle of liquid is rarely suspicious, and worst case I haven't lied, I've just said it's grooming product samples, which is maybe a little vague. So what are they going to do? Either send it back to me and I resend, or they confiscate it (it's never happened to me before), or they open it, realize it's not drugs and send it onwards. I don't think they're going to come knock on my door and take me to jail or fine me for sending some cologne to a friend? Mail office workers can only ask and you can just say no it's not perfume and that's done and done. If they scan it and refuse to send it, it'll just come back to you or get forwarded to the border people for evaluation there. I think it's fairly low risk, that's all I'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.CAL Fragrance Reviewer View Post
    BTW isn't there policies that forbid them from opening up packages?
    From the Federal Law Enforcement and Security Arm of the U.S. Postal Service: Can Postal Inspectors open mail if they feel it may contain something illegal?
    First-Class letters and parcels are protected against search and seizure under the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution, and, as such, cannot be opened without a search warrant. If there is probable cause to believe the contents of a First-Class letter or parcel violate federal law, Postal Inspectors can obtain a search warrant to open the mail piece. Other classes of mail do not contain private correspondence, and therefore may be opened without a warrant.
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    Point blank, the main concern for the USPS is the IDIOTS out there in the world. Those people who would send a fragrance with no proper protection inside the container, or, even go so far as to just stick a bottle in a non-padded plastic envelope and mail it. Such numb-skulls exist. And the rules are meant to protect the USPS and its carriers against those irresponsible people.

    So if you pack properly and sufficiently, the USPS will have nothing to worry about. And that's why it's generally so easy to mail a fragrance packed well and declared as a cosmetic sample or glass object.
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    I recently went through this experience. I bought an eau de toilette (vintage) on ebay from a perfume dealer (good ratings etc.) but the quality was not what I expected, the dealer said return it if I was not satisfied. So I went to the post office, a large one, here in Honolulu, and the agent of course notices where it's going due to the name of the company, and asked if there was fragrance in it. I said yes, (what really was I supposed to do at that point) and he told me that it would have to go ground and not first class air mail due to regulations against shipping alcohol oriented items (fragrance). Now, from Hawaii here, ground means by "boat" and he told me it would take 3 weeks to arrive. Now the limit that it had to arrive back at the dealer was in the upcoming week, so I knew it would not get there on time. I asked the post office why the dealer was able to ship packages, and he said they had some sort of license to be able to ship commercial. Some sort of liabiltiy insurance or something. The odd thing is, is that I have been receiving several fragrances over the past month and they've all arrived within time, and even packaged with a USPS label. They were, however, solidly wrapped and without being able to hear the liquid move or feel it. I did have one Rive Gauche Pour Homme arrive, but that is as light as air and no way one could tell there was any liquid in it.

    Anyway, the PO said I could contact the vendor and have them pay for shipping, by sending me a label,but at that point, I decided to eat the cost of the fragrance, call it a write off and learn a lesson about buying certain fragrances.

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    This world has truly gone completely mad...... perhaps it's all the preservatives in food......or oakmoss poisoning......!!!!

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    Vertare- I'm surprised you can return a fragrance after it was opened. Plus, usually there's a 20% restocking fee or something. They usually make it very difficult to return something- in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertatre View Post
    Anyway, the PO said I could contact the vendor and have them pay for shipping, by sending me a label,but at that point, I decided to eat the cost of the fragrance, call it a write off and learn a lesson about buying certain fragrances.
    Sorry to hear it didn't work as you had hoped it would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    Vertare- I'm surprised you can return a fragrance after it was opened. Plus, usually there's a 20% restocking fee or something. They usually make it very difficult to return something- in my experience.
    Hi. I didn't intend to ask for a refund. I noticed they were selling 2 of the same bottles, so I thought I was being nice to write them a note saying "hey, thanks for the speedy shipping,but just wanted to let you know about that fragrance.... filler filler... in case someone else mentioned it as well"

    They wrote back, apologized and said if I was displeased to please send back to the address.

    Ive no idea if they would have rejected it, but I stated it smelled off and was somewhat alcoholly, but 'remnants' of the scent showed through.. It was a vintage. I even wrote them I knew it was my risk in ordering a vintage..

    It may be the top notes were very compromised. but anyway, I never sent it back.

    Oddly, I have been on a receiving fragrances kick since the beginning of the month and have had no problems receiving anything at least. Even just today I received an automatic notification that my package arrived and was delivered to my box.

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    Sorry to hear it didn't work as you had hoped it would.
    so nice of you Hednic.. thank you.

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