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    Royal English Leather
    I sampled this one today. After only a half hour I had enough. I never imagined that Creed would have such a bad scent.
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    GASP! You must have a bad sample... There can really be no other explaination.

    Actually, this is my favorite leather fragrance. Only thing I usually hear is some people say is can smell like a urinal cake. I disagree, but I can almost detect it... just a little bit... But it is under all that wonderful leathery smell...
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    6. Tom Ford - Grey Vetiver
    7. Montale - Aoud Legacy
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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Everyone's taste is different. The first 10 minutes or so is a bit challenging to me, but after that, it is one of my favorite leather fragrances.

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    I like leather. I have Tuscan Leather and consider it one of my top scents. This one had a weird sweet chemical smell with a hint of leather. Very bizarre.
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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Great fragrance. Creed made a good copy of Knize 10.

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    Great fragrance. Creed made a good copy of Knize 10.
    Want to trade - Chanel Platinum Egoiste for Dior Eau Sauvage...
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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    A buttery smooth leather. I think it's comforting.
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    Creeds are like fine wine.
    Buy a big bottle and let it mature for some years.

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    This scent, older than Knize Ten, is a very nice slightly sweetish mature leather fragrance.

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    It's a wonderful leather fragrance IMO.

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Something Im very interested in trying. Sorry to hear you didnt like it. Just out of curiosity, have you ever tried Knize Ten? If so, what are your thoughts on it, as its one of my favorites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
    GASP! You must have a bad sample...
    Gasp indeed! REL is my favorite Creed fragrance.

    That "weird sweet chemical smell with a hint of leather" is the way classic leather fragrances have smelled for 100+ years. Knize Ten, Dana English Leather, Caswell-Massey Persian Leather and Serge Lutens Cuir Mauresque (among others) share this ambery-woody sweet character.

    You may not like it, but it isn't "such a bad scent"!

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Great top notes. The fragrance bores me. Most of it smells like the pre-composed woody amber fixatives in the drydown of hundreds of others.

    It's a hair more interesting than most Creeds, though.

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Sorry, REL cannot be described as a bad scent. It may not be liked by some, but it certainly is not bad in itself. I sampled it last year but did not buy as it was only available in flacons. I thought it was a beautiful leather frag. The "buttery leather" description is spot-on, and i prefer it much more than Knize 10 (which i now realize is a bit too challenging for me, but full of quality).
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    Quote Originally Posted by noggs View Post
    Gasp indeed! REL is my favorite Creed fragrance.

    That "weird sweet chemical smell with a hint of leather" is the way classic leather fragrances have smelled for 100+ years. Knize Ten, Dana English Leather, Caswell-Massey Persian Leather and Serge Lutens Cuir Mauresque (among others) share this ambery-woody sweet character.

    You may not like it, but it isn't "such a bad scent"!
    Agree 100%
    Then again, as dougczar said, you might have gotten a bad sample.

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    I did not get on with this one either when I sampled the scent, it was really pungent and smelled like womens hand cream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    Great fragrance. Creed made a good copy of Knize 10.

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    Great fragrance. Creed made a good copy of Knize 10.
    Creed is older than knize!!
    They are both great scent!! REL to my nose is more wearable than K10!!

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    I do not dislike REL, however the only Creed that I ever considered scrubbing off (so far) was Royal Water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    I do not dislike REL, however the only Creed that I ever considered scrubbing off (so far) was Royal Water.
    Oh, no! All my faves are getting dissed!

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Quote Originally Posted by FullCollapse View Post
    Something Im very interested in trying. Sorry to hear you didnt like it. Just out of curiosity, have you ever tried Knize Ten? If so, what are your thoughts on it, as its one of my favorites?
    I've only sampled it once and I haven't passed final judgement yet. My initial impression was that it was a good scent but not for me. I'll give it another go at some point though.

    I'm convinced I got a bad sample now. The scent that everyone is describing is nothing like what I experienced.
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    It is not older than Knize. The 1781 date is fake. Actually REL is a copy of L'Origan with a leather note added. Whether one likes it or not it is not a bad perfume, excellent quality and construction.

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    I do not dislike REL, however the only Creed that I ever considered scrubbing off (so far) was Royal Water.
    Agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    I do not dislike REL, however the only Creed that I ever considered scrubbing off (so far) was Royal Water.
    Agree. Sorry, noggs!

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    It's a urinal mint combined with leather. Not for me, thank you.

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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Gotta agree...URINAL CAKE... There is a Montale frag...I forget which, that also smelled like a urinal cake. There was a thread here 4 or 5 months ago that explained what that strange smell was, but I forget what chemical it is.
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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Leather Fragrances seem to be for the most part, something that simply tries to be a leather fragrance, and usually fails miserably. I'm not sure why that is...

    I'm trying to do something about that...
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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Quote Originally Posted by pkiler View Post
    Leather Fragrances seem to be for the most part, something that simply tries to be a leather fragrance, and usually fails miserably. I'm not sure why that is...
    Except for Thierry Mugler. They soak their fragrance in leather for 30 days, so theirs is the real deal.
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    2. Xerjoff - Nio
    3. Creed - Aventus
    4. The Different Company - De Bachmakov
    5. Dior - Homme Sport 2008
    6. Tom Ford - Grey Vetiver
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    8. Dior - Homme Sport 2012
    9. Creed - Virgin Island Water
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_good_life View Post
    It is not older than Knize. The 1781 date is fake. Actually REL is a copy of L'Origan with a leather note added. Whether one likes it or not it is not a bad perfume, excellent quality and construction.

    sent from a mobile device - please excuse any swelling mistakes

    Pity, you didn't quite write "smelling mistakes"

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    DougCzar, Which Thierry Mugler frag did you have in mind ?

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    A Friend sent me a sample of Knize Ten, and told me it was a Leather Fragrance. I said WHAT?
    This friend had asked me to help him make a reconstitution of his favorite Leather, Kolnisch Juchten, and we were sniffing others.

    But I came to understand that so many "Leather" frags were just posers in the idea of Leather, unfortunately.
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    This was the first Creed I smelled that made me recoil. I hated it, and detest only Royal Delight more.

    But keep in mind I don't much like leather scents, and was hoping against hope this one would be different.
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    Default Re: Reverse Holy Grail, a Creed scrubber!

    Quote Originally Posted by pkiler View Post
    DougCzar, Which Thierry Mugler frag did you have in mind ?

    A*Men - Les Parfums de Cuir
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    Current Summer Favorites:

    1. Creed - Original Cologne
    2. Xerjoff - Nio
    3. Creed - Aventus
    4. The Different Company - De Bachmakov
    5. Dior - Homme Sport 2008
    6. Tom Ford - Grey Vetiver
    7. Montale - Aoud Legacy
    8. Dior - Homme Sport 2012
    9. Creed - Virgin Island Water
    10. Kenneth Cole - Black

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