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    Default Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Hello all,

    I just joined a month ago, but have been following and getting great reviews and ideas from basenotes for abt 2 yrs or so. So this being my first post, I hope you don't find it controversial with the title, as each person has his / her own fav parfum / cologne and with good reason.

    That said, I own a fair bit of niche and top end parfums from most of the top parfumers. I grew up in India where my grandfather's friend was a maker of ether based fragrances and later on had the chance to sample a lot of the newer manufacturers of oil and alcohol based wood / oud / floral fragrances in India - very raw to begin, but very pure to the end.

    Now to my topic - started using Amouage line a few yrs back and I am unable to compare it with any other fragrance around - their fragrances to me are the highest level and any other parfumer around the world can only aim to reach Amouage's level. The purity, character and quality of almost all their parfums are mind boggling and takes time to understand.

    Current day parfumers who come close (but well below) Amouage's level's in my opinion will be Malle, MKK & Lutens / Montale, in that order. While Amouage's line tends to middle eastern vibes / oud based, having owned / sampled from almost all the Western parfumers / exclusive collections etc, I am unable to consider Amouage at the same level...

    Thoughts?
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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Have you tried a Guerlain at all?

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    I can't believe I haven't tried any Amouages yet....
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    I have and own their Vetiver, Mouchoir, Habit rouge, have sampled Derby, Heroes and a few more of their older classics, a few exclusives among them as well - I like them very much and they are definitely excellent parfums, no doubt...However, to choose one over probably a million existing parfumss is difficult and to me Amouage seems on top of everything else I have sniffed / worn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kocy View Post
    Have you tried a Guerlain at all?
    Yeah OP you should try some Guerlain

    Quote Originally Posted by eggy View Post
    I can't believe I haven't tried any Amouages yet....
    Eggy, pm your address I'll send you a few sample!
    Last edited by Oupavoc; 21st January 2013 at 02:49 AM.

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    Amouage is no doubt a stand alone in the industry. Top notch in my book!
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    Aha, looks like you have your winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scentologist View Post
    Amouage is no doubt a stand alone in the industry. Top notch in my book!
    Then explain the abomination that is Gold Man :P I know, it's surely got its fans, but I found it rather awful.

    Amouage have certainly impressed me with some of their scents, despite falling short of my admittedly very high expectations with Lyric Man. I can understand the love for this house, admire their bringing Middle-Eastern scents to the relative mainstream, and would very much like to try their attars.

    That having been said, there are no Amouage fragrances that I think are head and shoulders above everything else out there.
    I'd sooner spend the cash on a bottle of Iquitos, a bottle of Egoiste and either Cuir d'Arabie or Cuir Mauresque.

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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Glad you found love in the Amouage line but if it is indeed as superior as you claim, you will not find it necessary to knock down other niche lines nor will it require a controversially phrased thread title. Every style of fragrance has its merits. I'm sure nobody is foolish enough to claim a classical symphony to be the best piece of music ever composed not, when there are equally enjoyable counterparts in the other styles incl. rock, jazz, blues, pop, etc. Often it's simply a matter of personal preference.

    Welcome to Basenotes. I'd encourage you not to stop at Amouage. Imho greater knowledge always brings one a healthy dose of humility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Glad you found love in the Amouage line but if it is indeed as superior as you claim, you will not find it necessary to knock down other niche lines nor will it require a controversially phrased thread title. Every style of fragrance has its merits. I'm sure nobody is foolish enough to claim a classical symphony to be the best piece of music ever composed not, when there are equally enjoyable counterparts in the other styles incl. rock, jazz, blues, pop, etc. Often it's simply a matter of personal preference.

    Welcome to Basenotes. I'd encourage you not to stop at Amouage. Imho greater knowledge always brings one a healthy dose of humility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badarun View Post

    Thoughts?
    I tried a few releases when I visited MiN in NYC and was not at all impressed (Interlude Man and Jubilation XXV). It might have been the whole atmosphere of MiN (heavy dose of incense as soon as you come in) that made it difficult to know where each fragrance began and the overall incense ended, so I'm reserving final thoughts after I've had some more time to sample their line.
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    Well said & I totally agree...My intention here was to see the reactions from the many basenoters because of the way I wrote the forum - no intention to ever put down any of the parfumers or to annoint amouage as # 1, although my subject does say so.
    I felt that the way I started this forum or the subject line will bring out the best reactions from the basenoters who have their own favorite's & why they disagree with Amouage's line...

    I just started collecting less than 2 yrs ago and every day, the most difficult decision I make is to choose which parfum / cologne to wear. They are all great in their own way...With the 70 odd that I have, I actually will not say Amouage's my # 1 choice, it'll be in my top 20 though...

    Apologies if the title hurt anyone...
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    bump
    Last edited by EndlesslySurprised; 21st January 2013 at 04:24 PM.

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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    I wouldn't say they are the best out there, but they do have some of the nicer fragrances out there. I searched around for the best incense fragrance for a month or so only to loop back to my first love, Memoir Man. I also really dig Jubilation XXV (own a 10mL decant), but I find it hard to wear due to its opulent nature.

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    Amouage, like most other houses, has its winners (Jubilation XXV, Memior Man, Lyric Man), and ones that would be better used for self-defense (Interlude Man).

    Some incredible fragrances to pick from, but Amouage alone certainly would not cover all my needs/desires.
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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    I wouldn't say they are the best out there, but they do have some of the nicer fragrances out there.
    Totally agree. Personally, I love Interlude Man and I am very impressed by several other Amouage scents, but I think just as highly of Andy Tauer's work. I'd say the same of Tom Ford. And many others, frankly. I had great fun sniffing the CB I Hate Perfume collection one day and was bummed to find the local store that carried the line had closed.

    I think people often make the mistake of thinking their favorite is also "the best." That's silly. There's no shortage of brilliantly crafted perfume, even if it isn't to each of our particular tastes.
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    The old Amouages (Gold, Ubar) were indeed a notch above most others in terms of richness, whether one liked them or not. But I feel Amouage has been watering down its masterpieces, in part in response to IFRA, in part, I presume, in a process of Creedification. It is also spitting out too many perfumes, and quality control (that is, batch variation) seems to be as bad as that of their Creed model, at least for the attars.

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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Quote Originally Posted by cacio View Post
    The old Amouages (Gold, Ubar) were indeed a notch above most others in terms of richness, whether one liked them or not. But I feel Amouage has been watering down its masterpieces, in part in response to IFRA, in part, I presume, in a process of Creedification. It is also spitting out too many perfumes, and quality control (that is, batch variation) seems to be as bad as that of their Creed model, at least for the attars.

    cacio

    I've not tried many from the line, but reading about Amouage on several blogs, I get the same impression as you do. There are many comments now saying the dreaded; They used to be good.

    So something happened, an that something seems to have affected the older fragrances as well as the new ones. People are mentioning lack of potency, lack of depth. It could be because of a need to follow current regulations, or substituting top notch materials for cheaper alternatives to increase profits; they are in this to make money after all.

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    Was personally never impressed with any in the line I tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Was personally never impressed with any in the line I tried.
    +1 on that. A lot of them were scrubbers, in fact, for me.

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    Although I really love Amouage and own a few of them they move along the same line, just like hearing blues records all the time, I agree with you Lutens is great and worth the cost, but if you try Guerlain or some YSL vintage you won't regret it at all, some vintage designer juices put the whole niche scene to shame!
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    First of all, Amouage are greats scents. Period.

    But, before comparing an Amouage/Malle/other niche fragrances each other, compare it with the old scents from the past.
    Try compare an Amouage with Patou pour Homme (1980), Paco Rabanne (1970) , Monsieur Rochas (any vintage) only to name a few .
    These "old" perfumes are "on par" with Amouages, and can be purchased at a fraction of the price .

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    This subject thinks that nothing produced today can match the timeless sophistication and impeccable contstruction of the perfumes created by Jacques Guerlain and Edmond Roudnitska. When you smell things like Mouchoir de Monsieur, Shalimar, Eau d'Hermes or Eau Sauvage, you get a feeling that they were perfected upon for a long time. Reason for this is most likely that they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrè Moreau View Post
    First of all, Amouage are greats scents. Period.

    But, before comparing an Amouage/Malle/other niche fragrances each other, compare it with the old scents from the past.
    Try compare an Amouage with Patou pour Homme (1980), Paco Rabanne (1970) , Monsieur Rochas (any vintage) only to name a few .
    These "old" perfumes are "on par" with Amouages, and can be purchased at a fraction of the price .
    Composition-wise, arguably yes, quality of ingredients...? Real question.

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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Amouage indeed is exceptional, i've visited their factory, and have seen some of the ingredients, no doubt - very good price/performance ratio, unfortunately i've only liked Epic Man and Opus VI, others although were excellent..just a tad too opulent for me, it remains to be seen as i am keen in sampling BELOVED MAN,Tribute and Homage Attars Soon.
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    It's all relative really. Whatever trips your trigger.
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    As someone who has purchased Amouage in the past I am sorry to say that in my opinion this line has lost its way.

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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post
    Glad you found love in the Amouage line but if it is indeed as superior as you claim, you will not find it necessary to knock down other niche lines nor will it require a controversially phrased thread title. Every style of fragrance has its merits. I'm sure nobody is foolish enough to claim a classical symphony to be the best piece of music ever composed not, when there are equally enjoyable counterparts in the other styles incl. rock, jazz, blues, pop, etc. Often it's simply a matter of personal preference.

    Welcome to Basenotes. I'd encourage you not to stop at Amouage. Imho greater knowledge always brings one a healthy dose of humility.
    Very well said. To add to your classical music analogy, Beethoven's 9th symphony is considered by many musical historians to be the most perfect single composition ever written. I love Beethoven, I share a birthday with him, but my favorite of his symphonies is the 6th. Miles Davis was brilliant, Mozart was phenomenal and the Beatles were a dazzling example of song writing and musical talent coming together at the perfect moment in time. Falling in love with a particular house is almost inevitable but don't let that deter you from experiencing other house's fragrance with the same open spirit and lack of preconception.
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    ^- That.

    And I also have it on good account that the attars take less work and are far less complex than the EDPs. Those who think the EDPs are all junk and the attars are great, that's fine, but know that it's not that more work or effort is put into the attars. I love the house and actually like the way their newer scents seem to be 'more focused' than the earlier, baroque compositions such as Gold.
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    Default Re: Amouage - an insult if rated along with other niche / regular fragrances

    Amouage is truly a great house but personally I still find other lines and/or perfumes that are definitely at the same level if not, occasionally higher...Puredistance, O'Driù, JAR, countless Guerlains, some Chanels, some Lutens, Malle, Patou, Vero Profumo...way too many.


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