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    Default Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    A*Men immediately springs to mind, but I don't think any drydown is worth putting up with a top this bad!

    Would you put up with a Frag where you hate the Top and/or Mid, becuase you love the drydown?
    Current Top 10:

    Dior Homme
    Gucci Pour Homme II
    Rive Gauche
    Fahrenheit
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    Green Irish Tweed
    Straight to Heaven

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    Amber Sultan - Kitchen spice opening I find unpleasant but the amber drydown is really good.
    Memoir Man - I'm not keen on the minty wormwood opening but the complex drydown is really good.

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    Versace The Dreamer

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    Egoiste, is another one of these types of fragrances where it is best to put on 45mins to an hour before you leave your house.
    My current top ten:
    1. Spice and Wood
    2. Noir De Noir
    3. Musc Ravageur
    4. Bois D'Argent
    5. Aoud 1
    6. Aventus
    7. Ore
    8. Dior Homme Intense
    9. Tobacco Vanille
    10.Ambre 114

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    I had Comme Des Garcons 2 many years ago.

    I think that was pretty vulgar for the first hour or so, but it did dry down to a very subtle church/incense/oriental scent later in the day.

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    Default Re: Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    Quote Originally Posted by Awakening950 View Post
    Versace The Dreamer
    Good call!!
    Current Top 10:

    Dior Homme
    Gucci Pour Homme II
    Rive Gauche
    Fahrenheit
    New Haarlem
    Jubilation XXV
    Neroli Portofino
    Virgin Island Water
    Green Irish Tweed
    Straight to Heaven

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    Musc Ravageur

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    Default Re: Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    Open doesn't exactly feature my most favourite opening.
    Breath of God. Not the biggest fan of the appetising sweetness in the opening.

    Both are not all that bad though. I don't think I would put up with a fragrance that has an opening I really dislike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjg3839 View Post
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    I agree with this. The drydown is as good as the opening is bad. Takes forever to get to the dry down.

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    L'Instant de Guerlain pour Homme Extreme

    I have no problem tolerating the opening to get to that fantastic drydown

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    Versace Dreamer is always mentioned in these. I didn't notice the awful opening that much. I don't know if having a mini without a sprayer makes a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dailey View Post
    Would you put up with a Frag where you hate the Top and/or Mid, because you love the dry down?
    Sure.

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    Breath of God. Not the biggest fan of the appetising sweetness in the opening.
    Breath of God was the first one that came to mind for me. Horrible opening, but if you can get through it, it gets wonderful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjg3839 View Post
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    What I thought of when I saw this thread.

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    Default Re: Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    Lauder for Men(vintage) has a harsh opening but then catches you by surprise as distinct notes pop out in the transition down to a sandalwood base.

    (Interesting to note that the harsh opening never stops in the current formulation.)

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    midnight in paris
    body kouros
    the dreamer

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    Quote Originally Posted by xray View Post
    What I thought of when I saw this thread.
    MR is the classic just-wait-till-the-drydown cologne on basenotes. But I don't think it's that bad at the outset, either, so I can't say it has an "awful" opening.

    Another one that I really enjoy in the drydown, much more than the opening, is GIT. Sometimes the opening smells sharp too me, with too much "green." The lush violet deepens as it dries.
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    1. Creed Millesime Imperial
    2. Serge Lutens Chergui
    3. Hermes Concentre d'Orange Verte
    4. Creed Virgin Island Water
    5. Chanel Eau de Cologne
    6. Thierry Mugler Pure Havane
    7. Van Cleef & Arpels Pour Homme
    8. Bulgari Blu
    9. Bond No. 9 New Haarlem
    10. YSL Kouros

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    Accidental Double post.
    Current Top Ten:

    1. Creed Millesime Imperial
    2. Serge Lutens Chergui
    3. Hermes Concentre d'Orange Verte
    4. Creed Virgin Island Water
    5. Chanel Eau de Cologne
    6. Thierry Mugler Pure Havane
    7. Van Cleef & Arpels Pour Homme
    8. Bulgari Blu
    9. Bond No. 9 New Haarlem
    10. YSL Kouros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awakening950 View Post
    Versace The Dreamer
    This
    Top notes of... sweat, gasoline, motor oil; a heart of deer musk and gunpowder, resting on a base of sex and testosterone... Mandom.

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    Default Re: Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    i might get a lot of hate for this but i say YSL M7

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjg3839 View Post
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    +1...

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    Riverside Drive.
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    Eau Lente, Mouchoir de Monsieur and several Villoresis springs to mind.

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    Black Orchid -- too potent.

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    Caron Pour un Homme. Opening is too rugged. It attacks the nose. But the dry down is heavenly.

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    The one that pops into my head is Chanel Pour Monsieur Concentrée. When I would spray this on a card I could never understand why it sold, then I forced myself to wear it and I loved the drydown!
    To a lesser extent I would also say Tabac Original edt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dailey View Post
    Would you put up with a Frag where you hate the Top and/or Mid, becuase you love the drydown?
    Nope. I have to live with it the whole time. Maayyybe if there was ten or fifteen minutes of bad initial opening followed by goodness, I'd do it, but any kind of extended thing I don't like will rule out the entire thing.

    Like Comme des Garcons Kyoto, for instance. On me, it's awful. Like the cheapest sort of trendy boy-cologne mixed with citronella. I gave it an afternoon of torture, thinking it HAD to get better, and it never did, before I scrubbed it off in despair. Then I sprayed it on a card, and the next day, the card had the most beautiful scent of Japanese incense ever. Yes, lovely -- but I do not care, if I have to go on a day-long camping trip with a bunch of frat boys to get there.

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    Kouros

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJM_77 View Post
    Egoiste, is another one of these types of fragrances where it is best to put on 45mins to an hour before you leave your house.
    Oh yeah. Especially the first 15 minutes or so can be pretty rank at times, but what follows is absolutely magnificent.

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    The opening blast from Creed Acier Aluminium is absolutely foul, yet it dries down to a rich, intoxicating, and highly original scent. Patience is a virtue worth mastering ...

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    Default Re: Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    Diptyque's 34 Boulevard Saint Germain has a rather nasty opening, but the drydown is beautiful.

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    Vintage Versace L'Homme.

    The opening is extremely harsh to me, even bitter, but the heart
    and drydown are pure quality.

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    The current Fahrenheit
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    I agree with Musc Rav & The Dreamer, although, sometimes I enjoy The Dreamer's opening.

    To that, I'd like to add some classics.
    Paco Rabanne pH - opening is too sharp.
    Grey Flannel - self explanatory, but the middle to base is actually nice and quite intriguing.
    Giorgio BH Red - This stuff would be so good if not for the armpit smelling cumin note in the opening.
    Narciso Rodriguez for Him
    Yatagan
    My 3 Signature Scents:

    Rive Gauche Light (2004)
    Fahrenheit (1988)
    Paul Smith Man (2009)

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    Default Re: Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    Gainsboro GMan - if not awful, at least nondescript as an opening and also slightly smoky as opening, only improving with drydown
    Also, quite a few scents being either leathery, with a strong leathery-animalic component, for instance (but not limited to) Knize Ten, Creed REL, Givenchy Gentleman, Versace l'Homme or Boss No. 1: not all the openings are awful, yet too unidimensional on the heavy, slightly overpowering pungently leathery side, yet their drydowns are some of the classiest, most suave yet also manly to be sensed, once these scents are given at least a minimum of 20-30 minutes to settle.

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    Default Re: Awful opening, but awesome drydown??

    I agree with 34 Blvd. St. Germain, and I think you have to wait an awful long time for that smooth cardamom drydown. Others would be Rocabar and Swiss Unlimited.

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    LIDGE. The drydown is one of the greatest olfactory wonders I've experienced, but the opening is repulsive.

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    One thing comes to my mind........... L'Eau Bleue d'Issey Pour Homme.

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    For the ones who wanna move on, I present you the idea of cognitive dissonance
    Enjoy the top notes, pain free!
    We want a 'Niche' forum.

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    Jicky. Once you get past the pickled farts note you're safe. The "poopsy" clove note eventually wafts into the sunset and the drydown is quite heavenly.
    " If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun ". Katharine Hepburn.

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    YSL Kouros has the urinal scent cake smell that supposedly eventually goes away then you are supposed to get a gorgeous honey drydown. Unfortunately when I wear it, for about 8 hours, I just smell like I'm wearing clothes I've urinated in several times. Yeah, that pee smell stays on my skin and no amount of scrubbing will wash it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david View Post
    Jicky. Once you get past the pickled farts note you're safe. The "poopsy" clove note eventually wafts into the sunset and the drydown is quite heavenly.
    I agree with you David. As much as I like Jicky, there is that civet undertone that you have to get past to enjoy it. Either it's in my head or I can slightly smell the "stank" for the duration of the wear, but as the hours pass the fecal smell dies down until I can only barely detect it.

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