Some people in this thread have a very strange idea of what a "dark" frag is.
Oscar de le Renta Pour Lui ?? Esencia Loewe ?? Really, guys?
Salvador Dali PH is so dark it actually smells like something is burning. Weird frag.
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Just bought Arabian Oud Musc Fakher (refined) and Musc Kaaba mukhalat oils. Gorgeous dark musc animalic scent.
And Avignon I kind of liked at first; I don't know church incense, but it does approximate the burning of frankincense tears... but again, frankincense? Dark? It's a bright, sunny resin, even while burning on a charcoal block.
(Then I bought a Tide washing machine cleaner packet which apparently is all Iso E Super, and now all I can think of when I smell Avignon is sparkling washing machines. I was about to buy a decant, too.)
What I don't like about Avignon is that it smells so synthetically built together. You have the very sweet vanilla-base, the smoke-imitating middle-part and it even tries to mimic the citrusy top-notes of real Frankincense by adding a thin citrus-smell on top. It doesn't smell organic, like one unity, it smells totally torn! It tries to copy real Frankincense, but fails in my opinion in doing it.
What I also don't like is that it really tries to copy real Frankincense! I am by no means an incense-expert, but I think the incense used in (Catholic) churches in Europe is most of the time a mix of different ingredients (including Frankincense) in numerous variations, but not just Frankincense alone - at least that's how I experienced it.
Last edited by hoschhti; 18th March 2013 at 06:08 PM.
Your brief as far as what constitutes "dark" is a bit vague. While you list quite a few "dark" fragrances (I would have pointed you at Black Tourmaline) that you feel aren't "dark" enough, you fail to elaborate on why each misses the mark. Other than "Black Tourmaline", I would probably suggest you try Naomi Goodsir's "Bois d'Ascese", which is gorgeous rendering of straight up wood smoke. Or why not try wearing Diptyque's now discontinued room fragrance "Essence of John Galliano" - smoke and leather.
One of the problems you are liable to run in to is that fragrances are designed to be wearable (and to attract a purchaser). To my nose, something like "Black Tourmaline" pushes those boundaries while remaining wearable. If Durbano had made it much "darker", it probably would slip into novelty territory - something designed to attract a bit of attention for being outrageous, but not to sell. Not to be worn. Simply to provoke.
+1 Serge Noire Serge Lutens
+1 Pure Oud By Kilian
I've never smelled anything remotely evil and dark, you can definitely cross of Salvador Dali pour homme , dior eau noire, and serge noire. They all smell really nice, salvador dali is bit old fashioned for me to enjoy wearing. I guess maybe i just dont know how evil and dark would translate into a scent. Weirdly, this thread topic has come up before which is why i tried salvador dali in the first place.
Cartier XIII Treizieme Heure.
What I don't like about the perfumes mentioned in my original post:
Encre Noire: Weird musk-notes in the drydown, licorice-note, too synthetic (Iso E Super). I liked it at first but that suddenly changed. I have the persistent suspicion that the formula changed - or my taste.
Black Tourmaline: Has an "old man"-vibe!
Norne: It's too herbal-medicinal, almost too green, smells like a potpourri after a while, especially on fabric.
Fumidus: Too fat, too boozy, too herbal.
Messe de Minuit (current version): Bad joke!
In my colllection, the darkest one is encre noire. I don't know if it is possible to find an even darker one.
If "dark" means absence of sweetness, florals, citrus etc., then Montale Dark Aoud. It smells like someone taking a wood burning kit to a pile of very dry cheap oud shavings.
I agree with Salvador Dali. Also, although I have never tried it, Messe de Minuit is supposed to be a very dark incense.
My Ultimate Top 5:
24 Platinum (2012)
Burberry London (2006)
Eau des Baux (2006)
Arpege pour Homme (2005)
Cuir D Arabie and black Afgano
Encre Noire and Carbone ve Balmain
All you guys who recommended Dark Aoud made me very, very curious - a decant is already on its way to me!
My decant of Dark Aoud arrived and I gave it already a couple of wearings. In the beginning it has this luxurious "Amouage-vibe", but that fades away quite qickly and surprisingly the scent becomes very refreshing (I'm not kidding), light, smoky and very dry, but also a bit thin and slightly synthetic. I see it as a dark "Eau de Cologne" as it is so fresh and airy. To be a dark "Perfume" it would need a bit more "meat", a bit more body and deepness, some more "rawness". Dark Aoud is a bit too streamlined, too polite, but I really like it and feel very comfortable wearing it.
So I haven't found the SUPER-DARK "Perfume", but I have found a SUPER-DARK "Eau de Cologne"!
Another votes for Serge Noire and Pure Oud By Kilian
Bois Noir Robert Piguet