What women shouldn't do...

[onaluna]

I've always said 'girls'. It's an English thing. My mum even calls her friends 'girls'.

Back home growing up not many people smoked marijuana, and the people that did usually dropped out of school and went onto harder drugs. I feel like in England marijuana is more of a gateway drug, whereas in America it's more of a social thing. I'm just not used to meeting a girl who, when asked what she's up to this weekend, says she's just going to smoke.

Fair enough, and your preference is your preference. Admittedly, I wouldn't be keen on people who do any substance to excess, or people who plan their social life around alcohol and drugs. And I don't even like pot, but I do feel that it's been disproportionately stigmatized vis-à-vis other "habit forming" substances.

Yes, women here call each other girls as well. My point was just to stir the pot about language habits, and their implications, not to give you a hard time. I won't belabor the point any further, but to say: It's not inherently a bad thing, but it can be when a person makes a habit of referring to men as "guys" or "men," and women as "girls." I don't know if you're a male or female, but the sex of the speaker makes a difference, too.

Cheers!

[HAllen]

Fair enough, and your preference is your preference. Admittedly, I wouldn't be keen on people who do any substance to excess, or people who plan their social life around alcohol and drugs. And I don't even like pot, but I do feel that it's been disproportionately stigmatized vis-à-vis other "habit forming" substances.

Yes, women here call each other girls as well. My point was just to stir the pot about language habits, and their implications, not to give you a hard time. I won't belabor the point any further, but to say: It's not inherently a bad thing, but it can be when a person makes a habit of referring to men as "guys" or "men," and women as "girls." I don't know if you're a male or female, but the sex of the speaker makes a difference, too.

Cheers!

I'm a male, but I don't really think that makes a difference. "Guys and girls" is how I grew up. For me, it's the same as "men and women" and "blokes and ladies". Personally, I don't think calling females "girls" is a bad thing. I assume you feel the term "girl" implies they lack maturity or something along those lines? Do you think "ladies" is better than 'girls'?

May I pose a question? If a group of males were in the way of where you needed to be, say for instance they were sitting down and you were standing, what term would you use when getting their attention? For example: 'Excuse me _____ but could I...' Which word would you use to fill in the gap?

[onaluna]

Yeah, You make total sense. I'd say fellahs, or guys —*haha. (I like guys/gals, because they're kind of neutral) I was off base on the "girls" thing.

Where the word "girls" chaps my ass is when it's used by older business men. It's sh•tty and dismissive in the work place to call people "boy" or "girl." And it's directly meant as a way to keep people in their place, whether they be young men or women of any age.

But my reaction to your statement was misplaced, and I apologize.I don't like overweening political correctness, and I'm afraid I entered that territory.

[HAllen]

Yeah, You make total sense. I'd say fellahs, or guys —*haha. (I like guys/gals, because they're kind of neutral) I was off base on the "girls" thing.

Where the word "girls" chaps my ass is when it's used by older business men. It's sh•tty and dismissive in the work place to call people "boy" or "girl." And it's directly meant as a way to keep people in their place, whether they be young men or women of any age.

But my reaction to your statement was misplaced, and I apologize.I don't like overweening political correctness, and I'm afraid I entered that territory.

Haha, no worries at all! I'm a younger male, but I know the type of person you're describing though. I definitely don't say "girls" in that way.

[hedonist222]

Get a room you two

[Primrose]

Get a room you two

ROTFL!

I don't think women should flaunt a muffin top when they dress.

[onaluna]

Aw come on. :P

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[knit at nite]

I have clients who dress that way and wonder why they can't get hired or promoted. d'oh

Aw come on. :P

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[seattlelight]

HAllen,
Marijuana is absolutely a gateway drug. Stay true to your values and leave it alone - along with those who smoke. Those who smoke and those who don't - seriously, there is not a lot in common regarding values. People who smoke tend to aggregate together socially, as if by some weird unspoken radar. Personally, I cannot stand the smell and don't go near the stuff; NONE of my friends smoke. I live in Washington state, where it was recently legalized, so plently of opportunity. But, please, stay away. It's a downhill slide for many people. I'm so sorry you ended up in a school where that's what you saw for socializing opportunities. MANY educational institutions in the United States are not that way. If you're still in school, consider transferring and enjoy socialiIng with folks you have something in common with! Initiative, many interests, high energy, and a general curiosity and love of life! Pot smokers don't typically have that approach - it's a pathetic addiction.

[NenMaster]

HAllen,
Marijuana is absolutely a gateway drug. Stay true to your values and leave it alone - along with those who smoke. Those who smoke and those who don't - seriously, there is not a lot in common regarding values. People who smoke tend to aggregate together socially, as if by some weird unspoken radar. Personally, I cannot stand the smell and don't go near the stuff; NONE of my friends smoke. I live in Washington state, where it was recently legalized, so plently of opportunity. But, please, stay away. It's a downhill slide for many people. I'm so sorry you ended up in a school where that's what you saw for socializing opportunities. MANY educational institutions in the United States are not that way. If you're still in school, consider transferring and enjoy socialiIng with folks you have something in common with! Initiative, many interests, high energy, and a general curiosity and love of life! Pot smokers don't typically have that approach - it's a pathetic addiction.

cigs and booze are worse.

Id rather be round a quiet couch locked stoner, than some drunken foaming pitbull.

i never seen no smoked up fool get aggressive.

[onaluna]

cigs and booze are worse.

Id rather be round a quiet couch locked stoner, than some drunken foaming pitbull.

i never seen no smoked up fool get aggressive.

Agreed. And I'd argue that IF there is such a thing as a gateway drug, then it's alcohol, not pot. Ask any drug user whether they drank alcohol or smoked pot first.

Anyway, scientific studies point away from the "gateway drug" assertion.

[iivanita]

A) B) Honestly, sincerely, I ask: what's wrong with marijuana? Why is that plant, and the habit of smoking it so stigmatized?
It's arguably less harmful than a lot of things that are legal. It's just a damn plant, you know?

lol everything is just a plant, even a beer and wine , coca too.....people who live in south America chew coca leaves every day, its normal for them.....it has some function there..

this sounds like a bad attempt to justify vices by comparing them which one is better lol

[Rüssel]

Taking hours and hours to shop when 30 minutes will do.

+ 1.

Also agree with weed, cocaine, heroine or other plant products, getting so drunk as to crawl home on all fours.

[onaluna]

lol everything is just a plant, even a beer and wine , coca too.....people who live in south America chew coca leaves every day, its normal for them.....it has some function there..

this sounds like a bad attempt to justify vices by comparing them which one is better lol

Some random responses:

1) Coca leaves are not cocaine. Cocaine is processed into a different (though related) substance and has different properties. It is much more potent than coca leaves in their natural state.

2) I don't drink, smoke pot, smoke cigarettes, or snort or shoot heroine or cocaine, so I'm not justifying any "vice."

3) While you are welcome to define "vices" according to your own measurements, I respectfully disagree that mere use of a substance -- by default -- constitutes a "vice." This is not meant to diminish the seriousness of addictive, compulsive behavior, but it's quite possible with two of those substances -- alcohol and pot -- to enjoy them in moderation.

4) My contention that marijuana is less harmful than the other substances mentioned is based on studies measuring the effects of those substances on health.

5) I don't see marijuana as a demon.

[mumsy]

I think the whole drug attitude thing depends entirely on your current age and the current year as to how it is seen. When we were young in the 70s, smoking weed was popular because many people smoked cigarettes anyway. Everyone seemed to be doing it. The hashish available then was a different creature to the super-strong resinous skunk available nowadays. The stuff then was often home grown and quite weak in comparison and made people cry laughing. The stronger stuff was at least pure. Nowadays from what I have seen, this skunk stuff just knocks the user for six. Perhaps no bad thing in preference to violence after booze but apparently it can have bad long term psychotic effects.

Regular intake of anything like that has to have some implications for the oft-user. I certainly don't know any skunk smokers who are dynamic, energetic and career driven. I wouldn't imagine any regular abuse of any substance can lead to a better overall human performance on a daily basis. I have known quite a few high powered people who have messed with coke for fun and then it has got way out of hand. I've yet to see anyone survive the experience without some personal and/or job damage further along the line. (S'cuse the pun). The only ones who survived the experience relatively unscathed had realised in time and given it up.

These days as far as I am aware, most youngsters do not smoke cigarettes any more, so smoking is out of favour in any form for appearances and/or the smell on the clothes. That has to be a good thing overall but humans seem to need some bad habits.

Most people keep such habits under control and in moderation BUT these sorts of behaviours are very hard to keep that way and that is where the problems lie. The worst part of any vice is when it has spiralled way out of control. Not many who dabble escape completely unscathed one way or another.

It is always best not to even start but what young person ever took that type of advice from elders....???.

[onaluna]

Well said, mumsy.

[lpp]

I think that they chew coca leaves in South America due to the altitude & also to avoid feeling hungry - not for fun.
And they're unlikely to progress to morphine or suffer from melting noses as a result...
But I could be wrong.

[NineInchNell]

Illegal drugs, cigarettes, booze and SNUFF

[Kagey]

Agree with Mumsy totally except for one thing: your attitude depends on not just your current age, etc., but also on how the media treat drugs. The truth is that most people who dabble in substances do so without becoming addicts or criminals (unless you count the use of illicit substances itself).

I think the media scaremongering about drugs--this idea that you're practically guaranteed to ruin your life or possibly die by trying anything stronger than Coca Cola--is unhelpful to the public debate and doesn't help our credibility with a younger generation of kids who already do dabble here and there.

[onaluna]

“Top Ten Things Women Shouldn’t Do In Public.”

1. Apply Full Make-Up
2. Pull out Your Thong from Your Butt Crack
3. Sit Cross-Legged While Wearing a Skirt
4. Show Off Your Midriff
5. Talk on Your Phone in a Public Bathroom or Dressing Room
6. Ask Your Boyfriend If He Loves You
7. Tweeze Errant Hairs or Pop a Pimple
8. Criticize Your Boyfriend
9. Adjust the Girls
10. Pee All Over the Toilet Seat

Thanks!
Electronic Cigarette

11. Spam fragrance forums with advertisements for their products.

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Agree with Mumsy totally except for one thing: your attitude depends on not just your current age, etc., but also on how the media treat drugs. The truth is that most people who dabble in substances do so without becoming addicts or criminals (unless you count the use of illicit substances itself).

I think the media scaremongering about drugs--this idea that you're practically guaranteed to ruin your life or possibly die by trying anything stronger than Coca Cola--is unhelpful to the public debate and doesn't help our credibility with a younger generation of kids who already do dabble here and there.

Agreed.

[Trebor]

Make up is a turn off for me. Can look real nasty. IMO English girls need to been schooled in applying make up. You see them a lot, face orange and the neck is white, disgusting really disgusting.

I went travelling and saw girls from all nations. Natural look seems to be the preferred choice.

Ohh.. seeing them taking it off and the wipe is just covered... Grim.

Au naturale is certainly best.

[NineInchNell]

Be overly apologetic

[Trebor]

Be overly apologetic

More like the opposite...

[taint it sweet]

Too much makeup is a big one for me. It's not attractive.

[Rüssel]

SNUFF

Even if she does it with style? :-)

[ben_from_boston]

... not be afraid, not hesitate to experiment with classic/vintage/alternative/formal wear or to indulge in tasteful, understated overdressing (hopefully, it doesn't sound like too much of a contradiction) once in a while, provided of course that the availability, affordability, appropriate occasions for these fashion choices exist and may be put to good use.

seems like many (especially younger) females don't realize they can be dead sexy with a more conservative style. . . it's about mien and carriage of oneself. not that i have a problem with the spandex crowd when i'm working out at the gym.

[kngnk]

I don't have anything against women showing skin, etc. As a man I don't really care whether a woman want's to show a lot of skin or not.
BUT...
It can be done fashionably or unfashionably. A belly shirt, tights and uggs are horrible looking. If the male equivalent is lazy, careless and distasteful, the female version will most likely be the same. I think dressing with a little care shows a lot about ones personality and work ethic.

I also am personally not a big fan of tattoos or smoking.

[martinijo]

This.

[Curly11]

Looks like she's working out some type of psycho-sexual angst. ^^^

[Rüssel]

Claim that Shame is a good movie. We all know you like this borefest only because you enjoy voyerism, exposed penis/bottom, masturbation into sink and toilet and a guy crying.