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    Default Giorgio and Giorgio Red - vintage + current

    Hello all,

    I'm curious to know about these two fragrances - from what I have read on here (mainly in the reviews section), is it reasonable to conclude as follows :

    1. the current Giorgio of Beverly Hills is pretty good compared to the vintage, and you won't miss much by buying the current.

    2. the current Giorgio Red is not so good, and it is better to search for the vintage.

    Sorry, I realize these are generalizations, but they are all I can conclude at the moment.

    Many thanks.

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    Default Re: Giorgio and Giorgio Red - vintage + current

    1. This is certainly true IMO on *some* of the re-issued Giorgio for Men bottles by EA. The earlier re-issue bottles that tended to have a dark mossy green juice (one of which I own, along with my multiple vintage juice bottles) are virtually indistinguishable smelling from the vintage and would be highly recommended if you knew one of those was the one you were getting. That said, somewhere along the line EA must have either changed manufacturers or reformulated because there is a noticeable decline in the scent quality/profile and juice color (though not potency) on many of the late re-issue bottles so buying the re-issue bottles now is a bit of a gamble. At this point, if you can afford it I recommend buying the vintage to avoid playing Russian roulette. The good news is that even the "inferior" re-issue bottles still smell great, they just don't smell anywhere near as good as the others... and to one who has experienced the good stuff, there is no going back.
    2. Red for Men I completely agree with your statement in the OP and recommend the vintage all the way.
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    Default Re: Giorgio and Giorgio Red - vintage + current

    thanks drseid,

    I appreciate your time.

    With the Giorgio Beverly Hills, are there any bottle designs, packaging designs, or (dare I say it) batch numbers, that would help me to distinguish between the best reformulations and the "lesser" reformulations ?

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    On the re-issue bottles there are differences by batch, but there really is not enough data available from other posters as to which are good versus "bad" reissue batches. The reissue bottles look exactly the same structurally. That said, on many of the newer re-issue bottles the juice is a light translucent green. Those are pretty much all "inferior". The darker color juice has a much higher chance of being fine with the reissues. As to batches, I can only give you the batch number of my own "good" reissue bottle 8BA2 that to my nose smells identical to my vintage juice. I think one of the "inferior" batches (that I gave away already) with the lighter juice was 9CA4. That one should be avoided, IMO.
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    Default Re: Giorgio and Giorgio Red - vintage + current

    Hi again. I have been able to track down a "potential" bottle of Giorgio. It is at the most, 6 or 7 yrs old.

    There are two numbers the seller has provided : 8CA7 is the four digit code and another number- GISF40001.

    In your opinion, would you say that this is a good one or not ?

    Many thanks for your help.

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    I think the first number is the batch number, and that appears to be one of the older reissue bottles. As I have never smelled that batch I can't be certain, but if I were a betting man I would say your chances are extremely good that is one of the "good" reissue bottles.
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    4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie

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    Default Re: Giorgio and Giorgio Red - vintage + current

    Quote Originally Posted by drseid View Post
    I think the first number is the batch number, and that appears to be one of the older reissue bottles. As I have never smelled that batch I can't be certain, but if I were a betting man I would say your chances are extremely good that is one of the "good" reissue bottles.
    Thanks for your time drseid - appreciate your help.

    With the bottle you referred to earlier, batch number 8BA2, can you say roughly when you bought this ?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Giorgio and Giorgio Red - vintage + current

    Maybe 5 years ago? To be honest I don't remember anymore....
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    Default Re: Giorgio and Giorgio Red - vintage + current

    Quote Originally Posted by drseid View Post
    Maybe 5 years ago? To be honest I don't remember anymore....
    Thanks drseid - that sounds roughly when the seller bought his.

    I might take a punt.

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    According to the official publicity for Red for Men: "A blend of 551 ingredients, including 35 naturals, the scent is a woody fougere created by Givaudan. A new note, called Sequoia -- after the giant Redwood trees in northern California -- is meant to give the scent woody freshness, according to LoRe."

    Though I don't view it as a fougere at all, it is very complex. The perfumer for the reformulation was likely given an impossible task, IMO. Giorgio for Men, by contrast, would have been easier to reproduce, but instead an entirely different scent was created (at least what's in the bottle I have). That one isn't bad, though it's not of the same quality of the original, but Red for Men is like a pale imitation, and not worth possessing, since there are other, similar ones that are superior and not expensive. So, for example, Pierre Cardin's Centaure Blue/Casaque is an excellent wood-oriented scent of that type, though not as complex as the original Red for Men.

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