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    Default Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Hi all,

    I recently got scammed on Aventus on Fragrantica. I was so hyped up on the Z01 batch that, since there wasn't anything on that batch on here, or on eBay (at the time) that I did a google search for recent postings of anything with that batch number, and came to a page on Fragrantica. Unfortunately, I pulled the idiot move of the century by not realizing that they were a new member without feedback, and selected "gift" on PayPal (found out a little bit afterwards). Long story short, I received about 30 ml of Fresco (which I hate, and is vastly overrated), by Ilum Dean - The difference is pretty unmistakable. The shoddy longevity, and the pre-dominant "bubble-gum" note in the drydown (which takes about a few minutes, really) is the easiest give away that it is Fresco.

    Since I pulled the idiot move, I'm wondering what you guys would suggest to tell my Credit Card company, since I can't do anything via PayPal because of the "gift" payment type.

    Thanks in advance for the advice.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    what's the fragrantica member's name? maybe notify the mods there too?
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    It was only a matter of time before this started happening w/ Fresco. I'm sure E-Bay is rampant with this switcheroo right now. Buyer Beware!!!

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Yeah, I saw this coming soon!. Contact your Credit Card Company and explain the situation. Maybe they can do something.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    This will be difficult to prove to your CC company IMO. Count your loses and move on.
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Be careful. Only do transactions with reputable sellers.
    Never pay as GIFT with an unknown seller.
    It might be real also because you possibly might have olfactory fatigue where your nose will not be able to sense it after 30 minutes but others will notice it around you. So try asking others if they can smell it on you.
    I actually get the same top notes from Fresco and Aventus.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Granola View Post
    This will be difficult to prove to your CC company IMO. Count your loses and move on.
    Yep, I'm afraid I agree!

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by leor_77 View Post
    Hi all,

    I recently got scammed on Aventus on Fragrantica. I was so hyped up on the Z01 batch that, since there wasn't anything on that batch on here, or on eBay (at the time) that I did a google search for recent postings of anything with that batch number, and came to a page on Fragrantica. Unfortunately, I pulled the idiot move of the century by not realizing that they were a new member without feedback, and selected "gift" on PayPal (found out a little bit afterwards). Long story short, I received about 30 ml of Fresco (which I hate, and is vastly overrated), by Ilum Dean - The difference is pretty unmistakable. The shoddy longevity, and the pre-dominant "bubble-gum" note in the drydown (which takes about a few minutes, really) is the easiest give away that it is Fresco.

    Since I pulled the idiot move, I'm wondering what you guys would suggest to tell my Credit Card company, since I can't do anything via PayPal because of the "gift" payment type.

    Thanks in advance for the advice.
    I don't believe a word of what he said. Look at his profile and read some of his recent posts. Complete made up BS.
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    I would recommend calling paypal and telling them what happened. They can be really helpful. I had a complex problem (not with fragrance), and paypal sorted it out quickly and effectively. Can't hurt to try! Good luck

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    File a chargeback under your credit card for a fraudulent transaction immediately. Do not rely on Paypal for protection especially for a gift transaction. I wouldn't count on the seller to make it right either if you are 100% certain its Fresco. Out of curiosity what did the seller say when you informed him of the situation?

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Granola View Post
    This will be difficult to prove to your CC company IMO. Count your loses and move on.
    Agree.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Just tell your CC company that you were lied to and sent the wrong fragrance on purpose. They may call you and all you have to do is tell them the exact story you told us. i was sold a fake bottle at a perfume shop and i just explained exactly why it was fake and I got all my money back.
    Its seems weird to explain the difference between a fake and real bottle to some guy who works at a bank but as long as you dont make a habit of it the they should have no reason to doubt you.
    I would try to contact the scammer first and see what he says.
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    I don't believe a word of what he said. Look at his profile and read some of his recent posts. Complete made up BS.
    Well, I did just that. Looked at his profile, recent posts, and even his wardrobe.
    And I don't have the faintest idea why you've made the allegation that you have.
    Maybe you can enlighten us with some specifics ??
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    You know what's pretty funny, is that I still might be able to get some money back by selling actual Fresco decants on Ebay, since people are so curious about it.

    Someone is selling 4 ML decants for 5 dollars shipped - I could potentially get almost half of my money if I just sell them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsteve View Post
    Well, I did just that. Looked at his profile, recent posts, and even his wardrobe.
    And I don't have the faintest idea why you've made the allegation that you have.
    Maybe you can enlighten us with some specifics ??
    What's unbelievable is that how you could go so much out or your way to buy something you really weren't that thrilled with in the first place Z01 batch (he stated this in another thread). Why rip someone off for 30 mL. 48 feedback on BN and he buys from a person with 0 feedback and then does himself another disfavor by paying as a gift. Finally, he bashes Fresco and gives his little mini review and seems more angry about it than the supposed seller that ripped him off. Doesn't really add up.
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Aventus is a terrible fragrance.
    My Top Ten:

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Sounds like life will be hard for the OP.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingthealien View Post
    Aventus is a terrible fragrance.
    That's because it has little bits of Satan in each bottle. Makes people do craaaaaazzzzyyyyy things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovingthealien View Post
    Aventus is a terrible fragrance.
    ^ a useless terrible comment that added nothing to this post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovingthealien View Post
    Aventus is a terrible fragrance.
    Noted.
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    If I were that stupid I wouldn't tell people about what I'd done afterwards.

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    Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    What's unbelievable is that how you could go so much out or your way to buy something you really weren't that thrilled with in the first place Z01 batch (he stated this in another thread). Why rip someone off for 30 mL. 48 feedback on BN and he buys from a person with 0 feedback and then does himself another disfavor by paying as a gift. Finally, he bashes Fresco and gives his little mini review and seems more angry about it than the supposed seller that ripped him off. Doesn't really add up.
    So do you just like making stuff up for fun? I never said I didn't like the Z01 batch - I LOVE it, and think it's one of the best batches that were made. Yes, I did say that Fresco sucks in another thread...That's because: It SUCKS, and I'm giving my honest assessment.

    You're right that I pulled a dumb move by going through with the purchase like I did. I already admitted that. You are honestly no better than a worthless troll. Go contribute your nothings to another thread.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    At first I thought It was like Aventus. But now its became cheap and horrid imo. I threw the stuff away.

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    You should report it to the mods both here and on Fragrantica and must name names. This will protect others and may bring to light other activities and victims. It's been done before and those members have been banned and paid back. Someone may come out and give you helpful info regarding the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leor_77 View Post
    So do you just like making stuff up for fun? I never said I didn't like the Z01 batch - I LOVE it, and think it's one of the best batches that were made. Yes, I did say that Fresco sucks in another thread...That's because: It SUCKS, and I'm giving my honest assessment.

    You're right that I pulled a dumb move by going through with the purchase like I did. I already admitted that. You are honestly no better than a worthless troll. Go contribute your nothings to another thread.
    I'm sure you'll get your money back by selling those decants of Fresco on Ebay. Great idea! Hope it all works out for you buddy, because you need all the help you can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renaissance_Man View Post
    You should report it to the mods both here and on Fragrantica and must name names. This will protect others and may bring to light other activities and victims. It's been done before and those members have been banned and paid back. Someone may come out and give you helpful info regarding the guy.
    What if it's Aventus? How do we really know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by leor_77 View Post

    You are honestly no better than a worthless troll.
    I would watch your keyboard. Stuigi gives people infractions for such harsh, negative name calling.
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Even when clearly goaded by someone else stepping in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granola View Post
    What if it's Aventus? How do we really know?
    Oh yeah. My sentiments exactly. I'm one of the crowd that think they're quite similar... at least, I should say, the Fresco bottle I received seems similar enough to both decant and split bottles I have of Aventus. And with all the batch variation talk... good luck to the OP nailin' down his case. Might fly just fine with a bank or credit card rep, but we here are aware of the fog surrounding the whole thing. Color me a skeptic. I guess its a good thing I'm not the one you've got to convince.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuNezDeBuzier View Post
    Oh yeah. My sentiments exactly. I'm one of the crowd that think they're quite similar... at least, I should say, the Fresco bottle I received seems similar enough to both decant and split bottles I have of Aventus. And with all the batch variation talk...
    I find them quite different. Yes, there's a similarity in the sense that they're both fresh scents with a strong emphasis on a pineapple/apple fruity accord married to smoke, though Aventus is more complex than that, but it seems to me like the only people who can't smell the difference are the ones who want Fresco to smell like Aventus because the hype matters more than the actual smell. To some people, I guess the hype is really important.

    I've never detected bubblegum in Aventus. That's an instant sign, among others, that it's Fresco.
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by timmy-j View Post
    It was only a matter of time before this started happening w/ Fresco. I'm sure E-Bay is rampant with this switcheroo right now. Buyer Beware!!!
    actually this is quite a valid point, damn

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Fresco smells like a lemon cough drop, dipped in a ash try.

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    Every time there's a thread with Fresco in the title you know you are in for some entertainment.

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    It seems to me like the only people who can't smell the difference are the ones who want Fresco to smell like Aventus because the hype matters more than the actual smell. To some people, I guess the hype is really important.

    I've never detected bubblegum in Aventus. That's an instant sign, among others, that it's Fresco.
    I couldn't care about the hype, as I would not buy either. I do indeed think they smell quite similar, though yes I can tell the difference (but get no bubblegum at all) and I prefer the Fresco of the two. Still, while I may personally prefer the Fresco I do feel bad if folks are indeed doing a switch-a-roo and not providing what someone bought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian M View Post
    I would watch your keyboard. Stuigi gives people infractions for such harsh, negative name calling.
    Do not insult the great Stuigi like that.

    Moreover, I don't see what the big deal is. Fresco is practically the same as Aventus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noirdrakkar View Post
    Do not insult the great Stuigi like that.

    Moreover, I don't see what the big deal is. Fresco is practically the same as Aventus.

    Ilum Dean > Creed
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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    update?

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    Quote Originally Posted by lovingthealien View Post
    Aventus is a terrible fragrance.
    LOL Sooo random, lol I wouldn't saw it's terrible, but it's "not good".

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    Default Re: Got scammed on Aventus...Sent Fresco (Not by anyone here) - Need advice

    My advice is to not get Fresco next time (unless you want it).

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