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    Default ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    ATTENTION all DOLCE&GABBANA owners....
    The D&G batch code hypothesis


    hi, my friends,
    today I had a pleasant discussion with a friend of mine, an expert in perfumery topics, about the "strange" batch codes in Dolce&Gabbana perfumes (why use four, five, six numbers in different times?).
    We observed many bottles of various D&G scents (male/ female/ different fragrances/ splash and spray bottles/ made in Italy/ in Germany/ in UK ), and , at the end, we arrived to this theory:

    First of all, don't consider the cosmetic check, in this case it's a bit unreliable, since it considers only the period 2001-2010.
    Second: D&G probably has an inusual code. The first digit, however, indicates the year. Here it is in a few words:

    until 1995: five-digits batch number (for example 45321: first digit is 4, so it means "produced in 1994")
    from 1996 to 2005: six-digits batch number ( for example 635423 or 702765 or 945832: these mean "produced in 1996, 1997, 1999", respectively)
    from 2006: four-digits batch number (for example 7425 or 9323 or 2123: these mean "produced in 2007, 2009, 2012", respectively)

    Could you check and verify this theory with your bottles?
    If this theory is true, all Made in Germany and UK bottles will have the 4-digit code.
    On the contrary, almost all Made in Italy bottles (except 2006-2008 ones) will have 5digits or 6digits code.
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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    Good detective work! Luckily in my case don't need to worry as I don't own or collect any from this house. Great info for the community here though.

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    Thanks for the info. I will check mines when I get a chance.

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    Strong Detective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Good detective work! Luckily in my case don't need to worry as I don't own or collect any from this house. Great info for the community here though.
    How come you don't own anything from D&G? Personal taste or a moral stance?

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    True in my case. I have a bottle from 2004 with a six digit batch code, and a bottle that should arrive tomorrow from 2007 with a 4 digit batch code. Great info!!

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    I own five bottles of Dolce&Gabbana pour homme. All 75ml and all produced after 2000.
    Four of them are the vintage/older formula with the sticker and are 'Made in Italy' (pre-2009 bottles). One is 'Made in Germany' (2009-2012) and is the embossed bottle.

    All have a 6-digit batch code on the bottom of the bottle of which the first one refers to the year of production.
    2003, 2005, 2007 and 2008 for vintage and the Made in Germany starts with a 9 and is from 2009.

    These are all the D&G bottles I own.
    My Top '10' : (In no particular order)

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vintage)
    - Pal Zileri: Cuoio
    - Loewe: Esencia/Pour Homme/Solo
    - Davidoff: Leather Blend Edp
    - Revillon R
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Acqua di Parma: Colonia Intensa /Leather/Oud
    - Knize Ten
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Dior: Aqua Fahrenheit

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    some more infos obtained from experts:


    Original version: 1994 to 2000 (produced by Euroitalia factory, with top-quality ingredients)

    First reformulation : 2000 to 2008 (produced by Euroitalia, still high-quality, but with slight changes due to restrictions)

    Second reformulation :2009-2011 (produced by P&G, "made in Germany", heavily reformulated, great differences from the original, but considered still -barely- acceptable)

    Third reformulation, 2012-today: ("Made in UK", probably the worst )

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wonder if you could post a pictures of 2003, 2008 and 2009 stickers , to see differences.


    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerized View Post
    I own five bottles of Dolce&Gabbana pour homme. All 75ml and all produced after 2000.
    Four of them are the vintage/older formula with the sticker and are 'Made in Italy' (pre-2009 bottles). One is 'Made in Germany' (2009-2012) and is the embossed bottle.

    All have a 6-digit batch code on the bottom of the bottle of which the first one refers to the year of production.
    2003, 2005, 2007 and 2008 for vintage and the Made in Germany starts with a 9 and is from 2009.

    These are all the D&G bottles I own.

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    What stickers do you mean? The one on the front of the bottle (silver/black) are all the same (the German one is embossed and has no sticker).
    The ones on the bottom of the bottle with the batch-code are all different. Mind that the 2009 one is a 'Made in Germany' sticker and the other two (three) 'Made in Italy' with a slight insignificant difference. The batch-codes are all 6-digits.

    All owners with DG pour homme sticker version produced between 2001-2008 will say the same, I am sure.



    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    some more infos obtained from experts:


    Original version: 1994 to 2000 (produced by Euroitalia factory, with top-quality ingredients)

    First reformulation : 2000 to 2008 (produced by Euroitalia, still high-quality, but with slight changes due to restrictions)

    Second reformulation :2009-2011 (produced by P&G, "made in Germany", heavily reformulated, great differences from the original, but considered still -barely- acceptable)

    Third reformulation, 2012-today: ("Made in UK", probably the worst )

    - - - Updated - - -

    Wonder if you could post a pictures of 2003, 2008 and 2009 stickers , to see differences.
    My Top '10' : (In no particular order)

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vintage)
    - Pal Zileri: Cuoio
    - Loewe: Esencia/Pour Homme/Solo
    - Davidoff: Leather Blend Edp
    - Revillon R
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Acqua di Parma: Colonia Intensa /Leather/Oud
    - Knize Ten
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Dior: Aqua Fahrenheit

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerized View Post
    What stickers do you mean? The one on the front of the bottle (silver/black) are all the same (the German one is embossed and has no sticker).
    The ones on the bottom of the bottle with the batch-code are all different. Mind that the 2009 one is a 'Made in Germany' sticker and the other two (three) 'Made in Italy' with a slight insignificant difference. The batch-codes are all 6-digits.

    All owners with DG pour homme sticker version produced between 2001-2008 will say the same, I am sure.
    Wrong! Because as I said in an earlier post I have a bottle from 2004 with a six digit batch code and two bottles from 2007 with a 4 digit batch code. So again I'd love to see pics of the stickers from your 4 bottles...

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    Okay. A very strange thing is that, just 2 days ago, a friend of mine showed me a "silver sticker" bottle ("Made in Italy"), with the batch code "7138" (almost certainly produced in 2007) and ...it's only 4 digits.
    Maybe I'm doing too many questions, instead of smell these scents!

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    In that post it wasn't said what D&G frag was referred to.
    I am only talking about sticker versions of the pour homme version (1994).
    If you have one like that with a 4 digit code (between 2001-2009) it would be more interesting to show that one instead of mines with the normal 6 digit batch codes.


    Quote Originally Posted by FISS80 View Post
    Wrong! Because as I said in an earlier post I have a bottle from 2004 with a six digit batch code and two bottles from 2007 with a 4 digit batch code. So again I'd love to see pics of the stickers from your 4 bottles...
    My Top '10' : (In no particular order)

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vintage)
    - Pal Zileri: Cuoio
    - Loewe: Esencia/Pour Homme/Solo
    - Davidoff: Leather Blend Edp
    - Revillon R
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Acqua di Parma: Colonia Intensa /Leather/Oud
    - Knize Ten
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Dior: Aqua Fahrenheit

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    Okay. A very strange thing is that, just 2 days ago, a friend of mine showed me a "silver sticker" bottle ("Made in Italy"), with the batch code "7138" (almost certainly produced in 2007) and ...it's only 4 digits.
    Maybe I'm doing too many questions, instead of smell these scents!
    @Slayerized. See above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    Okay. A very strange thing is that, just 2 days ago, a friend of mine showed me a "silver sticker" bottle ("Made in Italy"), with the batch code "7138" (almost certainly produced in 2007) and ...it's only 4 digits.
    Maybe I'm doing too many questions, instead of smell these scents!
    The code on my Made in Italy bottle is 7141 while the code for my Made in Germany one begins with a 0. I think the next digit is an 8 but it is partially rubbed out (6 digits total), as are others. I would guess it is 082002.
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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    Here is my 'Made in Italy' (old style bottle/sticker) bottle:



    Six digit code: 315036

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    That is how all my 'Made in Italy' bottles look like as well, only at one there is a slight difference in text and font being used but all have 6 digit codes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Randall Flagg View Post
    Here is my 'Made in Italy' (old style bottle/sticker) bottle:



    Six digit code: 315036
    My Top '10' : (In no particular order)

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vintage)
    - Pal Zileri: Cuoio
    - Loewe: Esencia/Pour Homme/Solo
    - Davidoff: Leather Blend Edp
    - Revillon R
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Acqua di Parma: Colonia Intensa /Leather/Oud
    - Knize Ten
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Dior: Aqua Fahrenheit

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    So after a great deal of research on various news articles, it seems P&G entered a joint venture with D&G in 2005, while taking control of D&G's fragrance portfolio in July 2006. With that being said, the Germany reformulation happened at least 2 years after P&G took control.

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    Call from a friend of mine...
    This is very interesting:
    PROOF OF AUTHENTICITY

    check the sticker on the bottle: it is two-colors:
    the silver part is flat and smooth
    the blue one is "rough" and sandpaper-like (you can check it with your nails)
    Fake bottles are not so refined!


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    Some time ago I've purchased an unused vintage gift set (75ml EDT + 75ml shower gel). The box itself does not have any batch code, but the EDT looks authentic (blue-silver cap, sticker in the same colours, the silver part is smooth, the blue one is rough, sandpaper-like). The batch code on the bottle is strange though - 3035120. The juice itself smells nice (no synthetic or smelly things there), but the longevity is 5 hours maximum on me. My guess would be that the juice is the real deal, but the bottle was exposed to heat/sunlight and it's not so potent anymore. Any thoughts?

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    very likely year 2003.

    Quote Originally Posted by nobodythere View Post
    Some time ago I've purchased an unused vintage gift set (75ml EDT + 75ml shower gel). The box itself does not have any batch code, but the EDT looks authentic (blue-silver cap, sticker in the same colours, the silver part is smooth, the blue one is rough, sandpaper-like). The batch code on the bottle is strange though - 3035120. The juice itself smells nice (no synthetic or smelly things there), but the longevity is 5 hours maximum on me. My guess would be that the juice is the real deal, but the bottle was exposed to heat/sunlight and it's not so potent anymore. Any thoughts?

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    Juice in bottle has to 'come alive'!
    Use it a couple of times, 'shake' it softly a few times and compare the longevity etc. again after a few weeks/months.
    I had that with many bottles of which I thought longevity sucked but was actually extremely good (6-8hrs). I had it with Rocky Mountain Wood, Insense, even D&G ph 2003, Jaguar for men vintage and Givenchy Vetyver. All seems to last like 30 mins on me at first but after some 'breathing' in the bottle they came alive and were like they should be!
    (at least that it how those frags worked with me).

    This bottle is 10 years old. One of mine is actually the same, also from a giftset with shower gel of 2003 and that one had to come alive as well and is now one of my strongest out of my four vintage D&G pour homme bottles though they are all about the same in smell and longevity now which is 6-8 hrs.



    Quote Originally Posted by nobodythere View Post
    Some time ago I've purchased an unused vintage gift set (75ml EDT + 75ml shower gel). The box itself does not have any batch code, but the EDT looks authentic (blue-silver cap, sticker in the same colours, the silver part is smooth, the blue one is rough, sandpaper-like). The batch code on the bottle is strange though - 3035120. The juice itself smells nice (no synthetic or smelly things there), but the longevity is 5 hours maximum on me. My guess would be that the juice is the real deal, but the bottle was exposed to heat/sunlight and it's not so potent anymore. Any thoughts?
    My Top '10' : (In no particular order)

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vintage)
    - Pal Zileri: Cuoio
    - Loewe: Esencia/Pour Homme/Solo
    - Davidoff: Leather Blend Edp
    - Revillon R
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Acqua di Parma: Colonia Intensa /Leather/Oud
    - Knize Ten
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
    - Dior: Aqua Fahrenheit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerized View Post
    Juice in bottle has to 'come alive'!
    Use it a couple of times, 'shake' it softly a few times and compare the longevity etc.
    I
    Agree, old perfumes had to revive and "rebirth".

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    My "made in Germany" has a six digit code, 026023. Checkcosmetics says it's from 2010.
    Last edited by timmy-j; 18th March 2013 at 05:29 PM.

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    Christmas 2009 gift: D&G Light Blue.
    Already "Made in UK", 4-digits batch code.


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    Very interesting. I'm afraid I'm missing the point thought do they smell different? I find the most recent D&G a bit weak, but that said, I don't reckon any dramatic difference...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    Christmas 2009 gift: D&G Light Blue.
    Already "Made in UK", 4-digits batch code.

    I also have a 75ml bottle of D&G Light Blue, bought (in a gift-set with 2.5oz deostick) from an airport duty-free in 2007 and the bottom sticker it's identical except the code which is : 7193.
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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    ULTRA RARE from a friend of mine
    5-digits D&G bottle year 1994 (one of the first ever produced)
    note the vertical batch-code and the juice darker than modern one


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    Quote Originally Posted by lupo View Post
    I'm afraid I'm missing the point thought .
    My made in Germany has a 6 digit code, not a 4 digit code as the theory in the original post eluded to. I also am missing what is trying to be discerned by this theory.
    Last edited by timmy-j; 20th March 2013 at 04:35 PM.

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    I'm trying to date these perfumes because the cosmetic calculator is full with mistakes.
    Apart this, yes, the old batches smells different (I'd say: "better") than modern ones.

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    Default Re: ATTENTION all Dolce&Gabbana owners.....

    My sticker label, made in Italy bottle:



    It's much smoother than the first reformulation (which I got as a gift last year and ended up exchanging). I also get that smooth and creamy tobacco with citrus in the background from it.
    Last edited by NewHaarlem; 20th March 2013 at 08:59 PM. Reason: typo

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