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    This thread is the epitome of dysfunction.

    Basenotes looks like the magazine section at a gas station whereas before it was like a national library.

    Also, Asia starts from Turkey and ends towards Japan. Even in china itself different geographic locations have different tastes.
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    I don't think you can really catagorise hundreds of millions of people like that...
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    In my opinion, most of the best-selling and best-loved frags actually seem far more to coincide, rather than diverge, on both sides of the Atlantic.

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    It does depend where in the UK you go shopping as to what is a bestseller:

    Boots (a pharmacy chain). Their top 20 is dominated by frags that they sell cheaply and are on almost permanent money off offers:

    Versace Blue Jeans
    Burberry Weekend
    Cool Water
    CK One
    Hugo Boss Red
    Paco Rabanne XS
    Le Male
    1 Million
    Joop Homme
    Spicebomb
    Boss Soul
    Armani Diamonds
    Davidoff Adventure
    Givenchy Gentleman
    Polo Sport
    Joop Go
    Kouros
    Fahrenheit
    L'Eau D'Issey PH
    Only The Brave Tattoo

    Debenhams (Mainstream Department Store). Still a lot of discounted entries:

    Paul Smith London
    Paco Rabanne XS
    Tommy Eau de Prep
    Armani Code
    Paco Rabanne Ultraviolet
    Dior Homme
    Paco Rabanne PH
    Iceberg Twice
    Hugo Boss Red
    1 Million
    Clinique Happy
    Boss Bottled
    Burberry for Men (the "old" London)
    Burberry Weekend
    Cool Water
    Jaguar Classic
    Armani Diamonds
    Marc Jacobs Men
    Puma Green
    Boss Orange

    John Lewis (Department Store, likes to think it is upmarket, but is still mainstream):

    Spicebomb
    Grey Vetiver
    1 Million
    JPG Le Male
    AdP Colonia Intensa
    AdP Colonia
    Tom Ford Noir
    Armani Code
    Molton Brown Black Pepper EDT
    JPG Le Beau Male
    Jo Malone Lime Basil and Mandarin
    Tom Ford for Men
    CK One
    Vera Wang for Men
    AdP Colonia Essenza
    Boss Bottled
    Prada Luna Rossa
    Hugo Boss Red
    Paco Rabanne XS
    Acqua di Gio (yes, it shows up finally!)

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    Default Re: Which scent is loved by Europe and hated in America or vice versa

    Quote Originally Posted by EarNoseThroat View Post
    In Europe the most loved is JPG Le Male
    In the USA it is ADG
    I'd agree with this. Also Armani Code and 1 Million are zealously accepted/worn here.
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    I think the North Americans probably fueled the "fresh, clean, aqua" trend that is now increasingly the rage all over the world. But this did not start with perfumes. It started with laundry, cleaning and home/room scents. Proctor & Gamble and the other conglomerates have been capitalizing on the American cultural norm that unclean=socially unacceptable. Now our laundry has been supercharged with extra long lasting scent (and Febreeze for emergencies). We are sold bath products to fuel the expected norm that at least one shower a day is expected (I actually take two -- one after exercise). Our personal spaces are also scented with plug-in scents that now favor the smell of glaciers and the outdoors, whatever that smells like.

    I think perfumers probably saw a trend away from perfumes after the powerhouse 70s and 80s and married the concept of "clean" with personal perfumery and they boosted the market. There are so many clean scents around today that could have been dryer sheets, body soap, or air fresheners. Now they are Nautica EDTs. ;-)

    The heavier scents of the recent past are now relegated to "smells like old people" by some fragrance fans because they say something beyond "clean."

    This has been especially true among a lot of guys in my area, the majority of which will wear scent only on a date.

    Now this trend has spread to Europe. Look at the number of American conglomerates now customizing ad campaigns for these same products for the UK market in particular.

    Like everything else, this will eventually burn out and we'll move on to the next big thing.

    As for Asia, particularly in Japan, subtlety seems to be the driver. It would be offensive for many to have their scent invade another person's personal space. I don't know if this is true in other Asian cultures, however.

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    Well I can't really comment on the Europe VS America thing, but in terms of the OP, I can say that in general, people in asia (in general) don't like anything musky, dirty, spicy or sweet. They prefer clean and airy, or musky-clean, over the aforementioned.

    (I'm speaking from experience having traveled and smelled what people are wearing in Japan, Korea and Thailand). I smelled the uber-fresh Bulgari pour Homme and well-behaved Chloe (for women) more often than any other fragrances while living in Japan.

    On the other hand, I remember some of my Japanese friends raiding my fragrances and commenting that the musky, powdery and sweet Dior Homme was "super sexy" while the dry-cleaned Bleu de Chanel was just "nice."

    Who knows...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjeeling View Post
    ....I don't think that my survey has been large enough to be statistically significant for Tokyo, let alone the whole of Japan. On men here I most commonly smell aquatics, even in the middle of winter.
    For many people in The West, one of those precious, rare pleasures is the "new car smell", especially if it has leather seats. I love the smell of good leather. It is nosefood of the highest calibre. I have heard that car companies deliberately de-frag their leather for the Japanese market. If this is true it is one specific instance of a significant difference (within the tiny scope of this forum). Look at the Durian. Loved by many in Thailand, considered disgusting by many elsewhere. I doubt "Essence du Durian" would work anywhere. I recently had a conversation with an American colleague who considers a VX Toureg "Compact"- we were discussing the different stylistic norms vis a vis EU/US. He told me many people he knows consider Europeans to be effeminite. I laughed and told him many people I know consider Americans to be ludicrously macho. There was absolutely no nastiness in this exchange since neither of us have anything to prove. There is absolutely no point in any forum member leaping to the aid of either party- it was a personal exchange. There is a difference between cultures. It's just a question of determining whether and how this affects general purchasing trends. And that can only be found from the figures.

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    I think with Asian cultures people draw a lof of their experiences form the major cities (which makes sense as they would wear more fragrance on average) and population density is so high there that anything beyond "subtle" scents can quickly overpower a whole crowd, especially if multiple people are wearing projection bombs in close proximity.

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    Default Re: Which scent is loved by Europe and hated in America or vice versa

    In Japan and Korea this would be an issue which the wearer would take in to a/c. In China they would care far more about making sure that the scent they were projecting cost a lot of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monsieur View Post
    ??? I'm confused...

    In France, 1 Million is loved. It's absolutely the only frag I smell on men.

    Women always smell good, i never know what they're wearing tho.
    This is true. I asked the sales persons at a local Douglas here in France and they all agreed 1 Million is the best seller at the moment. They also told me that XS Black was extremely popular and Dior Homme.
    With women Angel is still a best seller and Alien.
    Estée Lauder's women's fragrances are I believe bestsellers in the USA, but in Europe they are not so popular.
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    This thread is all over the place..quite literally!

    I only have anecdotal evidence so the thing I smell most on blokes in the UK is:

    One million
    Hugo Boss Bottled & Hugo
    Le Male

    I smell all kinds of unidentifiable stuff on women!

    I have no idea what Americans like!

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    I remember KOUROS by Yves Saint Laurent was one of the most adored perfume in Europe.... and then had to discover it was "horrible!", "indecent!" , "disgusting!", in USA!

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    I can name a few scents that are popular on both sides of the pond: for example, YSL L'Homme, JPG Le Male, and (of course) Acqua di Gio constantly rank high on best-seller lists in both Europe and the US.

    In addition to the aforementioned Polo (original) and JHL being more popular in the US than Europe, I can also name Aramis and Obsession for Men as being more popular in their homeland. The reverse is true for Azzaro Chrome, which sells far better in the US than in its European home (with Euro-folks tending to prefer original Azzaro Pour Homme). Also, for fresh scents, Americans tend to prefer aquatics to the dry citrus scents like Armani Eau Pour Homme and Eau Sauvage that are favored in Europe.

    Both sides do like woody orientals, albeit the Europeans like stuff like Boss Bottled, Dior Homme, and 1 Million (the latter two also do fairly well at Sephora's 700+ US stores) while Americans tend to like the aforementioned Obsession, Polo Black, and Allure Homme (and derivatives). And like I mentioned earlier, Le Male is on both American and European top-10 lists. So we do have something in common.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. reasonable:2878297
    And you're saying this from personal experience on your travels, I take it?
    Personal experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. reasonable View Post
    Read a few of the Fifi Perfume Awards things from Europe and the States and find out for yourself all you'll get here, at best, is enough misinformation, cliched prejudice and provocation to start WWIII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dampier View Post

    The heavier scents of the recent past are now relegated to "smells like old people" by some fragrance fans because they say something beyond "clean."
    Agree with this whole heartedly. Whenever I wear scents with powder, rose, or older Guerlains she says it "smells old lady".

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    This thread is the epitome of dysfunction.

    Basenotes looks like the magazine section at a gas station whereas before it was like a national library.

    Also, Asia starts from Turkey and ends towards Japan. Even in china itself different geographic locations have different tastes.
    LOL, Yet it is still better than the forums on Fragrantica!!!

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    Hehe
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    It seems to me the most heavily advertised and marketed fragrances in that country makes the top list.

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    The whole question of fragrance, and art in general is subjective. None of this is based on science. We all have our own ideas and share them here. That's what this forum is for.

    It appears that certain popular fragrances are now universal. Those in their teens and twenties seem to like fresh aquatics and sweet vanilla fragrances for clubbing. ADG, CW, La Nuit , Le Male, Armani Code, 1 Million.

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    It's clear this is the case, Weylin. I feel many people are simply unaware that alternatives exist. Let's face it, a staggeringly huge proportion of people in the world make little effort to find out about what they're buying, whether it be fragrance or anything else for that matter. A few months ago a friend of mine was considering getting a suit made to measure, so I asked him what style he wanted. "I want to look good," he said. Yep, that narrows it down! We Googled various high profile men (Tom Cruise etc) and TBH, most of them had ill-fitting jackets. Everytime my friend pointed out a particular look I'd point out the fact that the waist was too narrow, a shoulder dropped etc. After 30 mins he told me he'd never thought about these aspects of clothing before and now considered himself too ignorant to buy one without myself in attedance. 50 years ago this was common knowldege, as was the fact that one always brushes felt anti-clockwise etc. Now you're effectively "in costume" with a real hat on.

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    Default Re: Which scent is loved by Europe and hated in America or vice versa

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes65 View Post
    LOL, Yet it is still better than the forums on Fragrantica!!!
    Although I do like fragrantica as well, 90% of the threads are in this format;


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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila View Post
    Although I do like fragrantica as well, 90% of the threads are in this format;


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    ...it looks like a national library...!

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    bashing another site makes this site look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameron View Post
    bashing another site makes this site look bad.
    who is bashing?

    I said I like fragrantica as well. Its just that you get dizzy sometimes looking at all the pictures of bottles.

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    I'd probably go with the stinky vs cleaner/fresher thing, yellow teeth vs obsessing over bleaching them, too much wine vs Xanax addiction, etc.

    According to the North American girlfriend, Fahrenheit Absolute is not sold overseas as in Europe we enjoy scents that smell like poo.

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    Default Re: Which scent is loved by Europe and hated in America or vice versa

    Quote Originally Posted by weylin View Post
    The whole question of fragrance, and art in general is subjective. None of this is based on science. We all have our own ideas and share them here. That's what this forum is for.

    It appears that certain popular fragrances are now universal. Those in their teens and twenties seem to like fresh aquatics and sweet vanilla fragrances for clubbing. ADG, CW, La Nuit , Le Male, Armani Code, 1 Million.
    I don't think the sense of smell is any more subjective then when we talk about colours:-) this is what perfume
    rs are trying to sell you:-) ...that all is relative...so nothing absolute, no absolutes in perfumes lol
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    The three most worn fragrances here in Sweden (by men) is the following ones;
    JPG - Le Male
    Paco Rabanne - One Milion
    Armani - Code

    The girls love these fragrances on guys. I personally don't care for any of them! If I were forced to choose one of these, it would been Code. Never in my life will I ever wear Le Male!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rüssel View Post
    I'd probably go with the stinky vs cleaner/fresher thing, yellow teeth vs obsessing over bleaching them, too much wine vs Xanax addiction, etc.

    According to the North American girlfriend, Fahrenheit Absolute is not sold overseas as in Europe we enjoy scents that smell like poo.
    Hate to tell ya, but I think what your girlfriend is smelling is Euro guys without *any* scent on....
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