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    Default Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    VINTAGE FAHRENHEIT ("Burning red planet version"), by Christian Dior

    I found an old bottle of vintage Fahrenheit "After Shave" in a store ("No one wants it, no one use aftershaves anymore..") and I bought it at very good price, because it was in a mint condition after so many years.
    I am very fond to old Fahrenheit, it was one of the most famous perfumes in my school and university days, and it's still one of the best box ever created IMO, full of science-fiction rememberings...
    What a memories!

    Let's go and examine thoroughly this old gem!!

    Vintage Fahrenheit is easily spotted because you can clearly see the "Red Planet" on the box, and the old letterings "Christian Dior", instead of "Dior" .Modern versions miss the "Red planet", sporting a generic red color.










    NOTE: you can see the bar-code, this means "produced after 1996" (this is year 1997 bottle)


    Ingredient list (brief and concise, still no restrictions/regulations at the time)


    The opening


    The internal brochure, in almost all the existent languages.




    The bottom of the box


    NOTE: the "After Shave" (or "Eau de Toilette") and "contents" are always in GOLDEN LETTERS; "Cristian Dior" always in white ones.




    The beautiful "double surface" (dark red VS light red) of the Red Planet (it's a painting)



    Note: the "Black part of the box" ...is not really black: it's a dark blue painting of the night sky!


    Here's to you the famous "vintage bottle"






    The Cap: upper part is ROUND, lower part is STRAIGHT



    Screwing the cap.


    Without the cap.


    Bottom of the bottle (no address "avenue Hoch, etc.." is reported)


    NOTE: the bottle is RED-ish in the upper part, YELLOW-ish in the lower part.
    IMPORTANT: you can notice it only if the background is clear white



    HOW TO SPOT FAKES?

    The word "Fahrenheit" is always EMBOSSED: you can feel it with your finger.



    the words "Aftershave/Eau de toilette" on the contrary are CARVED in the box


    Batch code on box and bottle should be the same:


    Last edited by Andrč Moreau; 22nd March 2013 at 12:42 PM.

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    A True classic IMO.

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    Cool. Gret info.

    I know where an indentical vintage version is displayed in a chemist's cabinet in south London. I haven't bought it because I think the modern version is just as good, if not better...

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    There were IFRA restrictions and guidelines when Fahrenheit was launched, it just wasn't obligatory to print them on the side of the bottle. When this fragrance was launched it contained more Methyl Octine Carbonate than IFRA recommended. I still don't know how IFF got away with it for so long.

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    Nice find! Congrats

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    Great find as I think the current one is wonderful and long lasting so I can only imagine how good the vintage is. Enjoy!

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    That was so well done it should be sticky'd.

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    From what I understand, if the box has an "e" symbol, usually next to where the amount is listed in ml, that means it is from early to mid 90s or later. If anyone knows if that estimate symbol came to be used by all companies during a particular year, please let us know.

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    The Estimation Symbol -at least in Europe- became mandatory in 1976. This is a formidable way to date very old perfumes

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    From what I understand, if the box has an "e" symbol, usually next to where the amount is listed in ml, that means it is from early to mid 90s or later. If anyone knows if that estimate symbol came to be used by all companies during a particular year, please let us know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    The Estimation Symbol -at least in Europe- became mandatory in 1976. This is a formidable way to date very old perfumes
    Good to know but quite confusing. Does this mean that only scents marketed to both US and European markets would get the symbol printed on the box by the early to mid 90s? I have a bottle of Rochas Moustache, for example, with no "e" symbol and yet it doesn't look 1975 or earlier.

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    Great catch. Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    Good to know but quite confusing. Does this mean that only scents marketed to both US and European markets would get the symbol printed on the box by the early to mid 90s? I have a bottle of Rochas Moustache, for example, with no "e" symbol and yet it doesn't look 1975 or earlier.
    If it's the cylindrical glass bottle with small round silver cap, I had too, and it exists since 1955

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    Congrats on a great find and thanks for the extensive post, perfectly combining insightful, informative, detailed knowledge with an extensive, aesthetically enjoyable and equally detailed photo coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken_Russell View Post
    Congrats on a great find and thanks for the extensive post, perfectly combining insightful, informative, detailed knowledge with an extensive, aesthetically enjoyable and equally detailed photo coverage.
    ^ What Ken said. Thank you Andre. I really want to give Fahrenheit another chance. I swapped away my bottle before, but quite enjoy the random wafts I sometimes encounter in public.
    Seeking: Bottles/decants : of Feeling Man, Gucci pour Homme, Essence of John Galliano, Nicole Miller (vintage), Opium pour Homme, Oxford & Cambridge, Concentré D'Orange Verte...etc.

    Seeking decant/sample of Jil Sander Feeling Man, Cacharel Nemo, Bijan for Men EDC, Lanvin for Men, Giorgio VIP, Il Lancetti and other old school frags ....etc. I have samples to swap.

    More HERE
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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    So thorough. The counterfeiters hate you. Good job homey.

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    thank you for posting and reminding us of a true classic.

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    Hi Andrč,
    Today I bought my Fahrenheit Vintage After Shave, this stuff in wonderful!!







    and now the family is complete...




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    Quote Originally Posted by mdclx View Post
    Hi Andrč,
    Today I bought my Fahrenheit Vintage After Shave, this stuff in wonderful!!
    Your pictures provide some useful information! Now I know that the change from old style box and white batch codes to the second style box and black batch codes happened from 2001 to 2002.

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    Sorry, but how do you arrive at that conclusion?

    Quote Originally Posted by osoblanco View Post
    Your pictures provide some useful information! Now I know that the change from old style box and white batch codes to the second style box and black batch codes happened from 2001 to 2002.

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    Brilliant!
    ointments and perfume delight the heart....

    #BBOG!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdclx View Post
    Sorry, but how do you arrive at that conclusion?
    Because I know that the 2002 version came in the second box design (blue top, red bottom) and has black batch codes. I recently bought one from eBay, just in case you're wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdclx View Post
    Hi Andrč,
    Today I bought my Fahrenheit Vintage After Shave, this stuff in wonderful!!
    BRAVO !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdclx View Post
    Hi Andrč,
    Today I bought my Fahrenheit Vintage After Shave, this stuff in wonderful!!







    and now the family is complete...



    GREATTTTTTT!
    Congratulation man!
    Enjoy them from top to bottom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    VINTAGE FAHRENHEIT ("Burning red planet version"), by Christian Dior

    HOW TO SPOT FAKES?

    The word "Fahrenheit" is always EMBOSSED: you can feel it with your finger.


    the words "Aftershave/Eau de toilette" on the contrary are CARVED in the box

    This is a wonderfully informative post, and I can definitely feel the love you have for Fahrenheit . That said, I am not sure the printing is always embossed and engraved on the "burning-red-planet" boxes. I have two bottles of "vintage" Fahrenheit EDT: a 50ml and a 100ml. On the 50ml box, the printing is as you describe, but the 100ml box is adorned with just simple printing with no embossing/engraving. And I can find nothing on the 100ml box or bottle (whose batch codes match, by the way) to indicate the product is counterfeit.

    One more thing -- isn't your bottle older than 1997? Are you dating it based on something other than the bar code? I have reason to believe that all boxes* have had bar codes on them from the earliest batches.

    rob

    *10ml minis excepted, probably because they were not intended for sale.

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    Not enough pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila View Post
    Not enough pics
    I just reposted smaller versions of the OP's pics for reference. Your comment was directed at me, I assume?
    What is it you want to see more pics of?

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    I just reposted smaller versions of the OP's pics for reference. Your comment was directed at me, I assume?
    What is it you want to see more pics of?
    I was just being sarcastic, lol
    It took me 5 minutes to be able to scroll down
    Great post. lots of info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila View Post
    I was just being sarcastic, lol
    It took me 5 minutes to be able to scroll down
    Great post. lots of info.
    lol! I thought that might be the case.
    I should take pics of the 100ml bottle and box I'm talking about. I just got it, and would like to figure out when it was produced. Batch code is 9M01.

    rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    lol! I thought that might be the case.
    Batch code is 9M01.
    rob
    Which color is the batch number printed on bottle? White or black?
    Anyway, bar-codes were used since 1995-1996. Finding a box without bar-code is usually the most easy sign of vintage (any perfume)

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    Well, I thought the batch code (100ml bottle) was white, but upon close inspection in good light with a magnifying glass, I see it actually silver. lol



    And here are the 100ml and 50ml boxes together. The printing on the 50ml box is as you describe (embossed & engraved). But it has a bar code.


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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    BTW this is a magazine from February 1995. How the bottle appeared, in that year.

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    Great post, I remember getting a Dior mini pack of fragrances a few years ago and I loved using Fahrenheit so much in the cold winters that I went out and purchased it.

    A true classic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    My original point was simply to say that there seem to be inconsistencies -- in boxes and batch codes (i.e. reuse of old codes, etc.) as well. And I wanted to suggest to others that if they are looking at a burning-red-planet box printed with simple, flat text, they should not assume that the product is counterfeit based on that alone.

    R

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    Andre Moreau, That was great! Thank you so much for taking the time to photograph, label and post this for us, along with the history lessons.
    I love Fahrenheit and will now need to start scouring sleepy, little drug stores for a good deal in its After-shave.
    Last edited by Schilling; 30th April 2013 at 01:40 AM.

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    Usually I don't frequent the men's forum, but I saw the words 'vintage Fahrenheit' and couldn't resist. Sometime around 1990, I was shopping and saw a bottle at a men's cosmetic counter. I opened the cap, took a good sniff, and considered buying it for myself because it smelled so good.

    Thanks for the thorough tutorial!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schilling View Post
    RoRo, That was great! Thank you so much for taking the time to photograph, label and post this for us, along with the history lessons.
    I love Fahrenheit and will now need to start scouring sleepy, little drug stores for a good deal in its After-shave.
    No, no, no! Credit Andrč for the great photos . He has done us all a service. My contribution was small, and specifically about the boxes.

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    No, no, no! Credit Andrč for the great photos . He has done us all a service. My contribution was small, and specifically about the boxes.

    Rob
    Done. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    Well, I thought the batch code (100ml bottle) was white, but upon close inspection in good light with a magnifying glass, I see it actually silver. lol

    9M01 in silver/white/grey (whatever you call it) printing = 1999

    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    One more thing -- isn't your bottle older than 1997? Are you dating it based on something other than the bar code? I have reason to believe that all boxes* have had bar codes on them from the earliest batches.
    No, his bottle really is from 1997. 7473J in silver printing = 1997

    Regarding the barcode: I have one bottle from 1990 without a barcode, while another bottle from 1991 does have the barcode. So I assume that all boxes from 1991 onwards have barcodes.

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    Interesting. It really is getting too much to keep track of all the packaging oddities.

    But 1999? In the original design bottle and box? *sigh* I am rapidly becoming a convert -- convinced by those who suggest it's best to simply wear the stuff and enjoy it. lol

    My 50ml bottle has a batch code of 4440V... at least I know what's in that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    Interesting. It really is getting too much to keep track of all the packaging oddities.

    But 1999? In the original design bottle and box? *sigh*
    The box design appearently changed in 2002. mdclx posted an old box design from 2001 (see above) and I have two boxes from 2002, which are the follow up design (red bottom, blue top). Strangely enough, the bach code color on the bottle seems to have changed within the year 2002, as one of my bottles has a silver batch code while the other one has a black batch code.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoRo View Post
    My 50ml bottle has a batch code of 4440V... at least I know what's in that one!
    That would be from 1994.

    By the way, two things are strange about your 100 ml bottle.

    1. "Fahrenheit" on the box is not embossed - All other old style boxes I've seen have the letters embossed, only the newer boxes (those two from 2002 I have) have it only printed rather than embossed.

    2. Your bottle seems to go yellow towards the bottom. I thought they had changed that design by 1999, because I have a 50 ml bottle from 1999 that is red all the way through.

    I really can't explain this, but it doesn't really matter ...

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    Anyway, all perfumes (all brands) since 1950 should have a batch code printed/carved/painted somewhere.....
    Anyway, remember to check the so-called "Green Dot Symbol" on the box. It was adopted through 1994-1996.
    If it's missing, your bottle is surely 1988 to 1994
    Last edited by Andrč Moreau; 1st May 2013 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    Anyway, remember to check the so-called "Green Dot Symbol" on the box. It was adopted through 1994-1996.
    If it's missing, your bottle is surely 1988 to 1994
    True, my 1994 bottle does not have the Green Dot yet.

    By the way, when did they start engraving the batch code into the bottom of the box instead of printing it onto the plastic wrap? The earliest box I have that has the batchcode engraved directly into the box is from 1997. In 1994 it was only printed on the plastic.

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    I remember when Fahrenheit was launched in the 80's it immidiately made me curious but after trying it to my skin, i immidiately realized this is not my cup of coffee. Don't like it nowadays a bit better. Yet i admit it's a well made fragrance and suits to some.
    "Le parfum est la musique du corps"
    (Marcel Rochas)

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    I just feel nostalgic viewing these pictures!
    and of course regret not buying those precious bottles sooner when they were widely available...!
    My all time favorite:

    Dior Fahrenheit

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    again thanks Andre for your great efforts...
    My all time favorite:

    Dior Fahrenheit

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    Hi,

    Very informative stuff. I am trying to date my Fahrenheit (it is sealed so I have not looked at the bottle yet). I am thinking 1998 by the code but the only thing I am a bit confused by is ingredients. In Andre's post above it is a 1997 bottle but there is a list of ingredients. On my box it only has two ingredients. See photo's. Any idea's? Thanks


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    It's 1998. Clues are: 4 digits & by 1996/7, they had stopped printing the batch code on the cellophane.

    Check here: http://www.jasonnewton.net/blog/?tag=dior

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    Just picked up a bottle of this myself and suspect it may be a vintage:





    Batch code is 0F02 and the bottle states Eau De Toilette under the Fahrenheit and the lower brand is marked Christian Dior as opposed to just Dior.

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    Managed to buy a vintage bottle of the EdT on ebay. Looking forward. My brother used to wear it 20 years ago or s. I have always liked it when used with moderation. I do wear lots of male scents. This one will be difficult to pull off though. Not because it is so super masculine, but because it is so well known as a men's scent and easily recognizable.

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    Default Re: Vintage FAHRENHEIT: marvelous memories from the past (Christian Dior, 1988)

    Vintage Fahrenheit is just exquisite. I do wish it would be re-interpreted with better quality materials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 61824 View Post
    Just picked up a bottle of this myself and suspect it may be a vintage:

    Batch code is 0F02 and the bottle states Eau De Toilette under the Fahrenheit and the lower brand is marked Christian Dior as opposed to just Dior.
    It's from the year 2000 ... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by osoblanco View Post
    It's from the year 2000 ... :-)
    Superb, thanks for that. Will be giving it a wear soon to compare against the modern version.

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    If you had the money would you buy this??!!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fahrenheit...item19efc1e4d7

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripjean View Post
    If you had the money would you buy this??!!

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fahrenheit...item19efc1e4d7
    What the f... no!

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    I love this thread, nice to see people's admiration of this classic.

    Every time I walk into a small shop with some rarities I hope to myself that theres some vintage Fahrenheit laying around (including the aftershave). I've been eager to try to find something in the early 2000's and prior but haven't seen anything older than mid 2000's. Oh well, I'll stumble upon some one day as I'm a die hard Fahrenheit fan.

    (I'd also love to find some of those mini vintage Fahrenheit bottles! They look awesome)

    Also great guide by Andrč, its really taught me to know the distinctions between different reformulations.

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