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    Default Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    I am looking at buying an old fragrance - no names at this point. Details I have are as follows :

    - it is about 95% full
    - it was purchased in Europe in 1985
    - since that date it has been stored in a house bathroom cabinet, so not much exposure to light
    - the bathroom is the warmest room in the house in summer (no direct sunlight on the cabinet), in a city with a coolish climate
    - owing to the city climate, warming bath lights were used about 30 mins per day for about half the year.

    I realize this is all a bit speculative, but based on that information, would you say the perfume is still ok ? I assume the top notes are long gone.

    Thanks in advance.

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    ... based on its history I would not turn it down immediately, but buying it would depend on what scent it is...!
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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    No, it must be chock full of all those dangerous allergens that IFRA is protecting us from. Avoid at all costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjeeling View Post
    No, it must be chock full of all those dangerous allergens that IFRA is protecting us from. Avoid at all costs.
    Haha! If only they knew about all the pollen currently creating a thick blanket over my car, they'd refocus their concerns!


    On topic, though, the only thing that concerns me is that it's spent so much time in the heat and humidity of the bathroom. Then again, it's been in a cabinet, so not as much exposure. Again, I suppose it depends on what the fragrance is and if the particular formulation at the time is worth the risk.

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    Would depend on the scent (some are more prone to degradation than others) and the price. If it was one I really wanted, and the price was reasonable, I'd probably take the risk. You have more information than is normally available when making such purchases.

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    Why did you leave out the most important deciding factor? What is the fragrance?
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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    The fragrance may still be okay. I'd risk it for the right fragrance at the right price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    Why did you leave out the most important deciding factor? What is the fragrance?
    Not knowing keeps us unbiased, but I do agree that it would help in making the decision that much easier.

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    To many unknown variables for me. I'd pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Michael View Post
    Not knowing keeps us unbiased, but I do agree that it would help in making the decision that much easier.
    Being unbiased does not apply to this situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docluv45 View Post
    The fragrance may still be okay. I'd risk it for the right fragrance at the right price.
    Definitely I agree.

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    You had me at bathroom cabinet.
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    Depends on the parfum & the cost...From your description, I would think that the juice should not have degraded.

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    95% full, not much air exposure, harder to go bad completely.
    Cabinet, not much light to trigger a fast oxidation.

    I would happily pay 10$ for this nombre noir. The bottle alone is worth much more.

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    Most likely not, unless it's a truly coveted, but also - even more importantly - very well kept, not deteriorated, collector's item.

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    nope.

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    Me too.
    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    You had me at bathroom cabinet.

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    Most opened vintage scents have been stored like this, you know. Usually we just don't know the history as well. I haven't bumped into too many turned fragrances. I'd risk it at a right price.

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    If it's the right fragrance at the right price, sure why not? Life's way too short not to take a chance.

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    I wouldn't buy any fragrance with any history without knowing what it was. Unless I had interest in a bottle with that history as a collector.

    If it was a fragrance I'm interested in and the physical appearance of the bottle is good, I'd buy it for the right price.

    If possible, I'd request a sample of the juice.

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    Depends entirely on the price and the particular item. I'm generally not interested even if a box is missing but that's me.

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    It depends on how bad you want that fragrance . If you have sampled it and loved it then I would take the risk it the price is right .

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    It sounds good to me. (assuming it's one of those many 1980's classic scents, original Kouros, Paco Rabanne or whatever.) BUT, it would depend on the price. I wouldn't pay big bucks for it (more than the price of a new bottle of the most recent version of the scent.) In fact I wouldn't even pay that unless the seller agreed to a refund if it didn't seem "right".

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    Is this a riddle?

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    Different fragrances age differently too. My dad has a bottle of the Original Boss which he purchased 1.5 decades ago, and it still smells as strong and as excellent as I remember growing up.

    Some deteriorate rather quickly. The name's important. I see you're trying to feel opinions objective by not naming it, but lets face it - few things as subjective as opinion is!

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    What does the owner say? He might be trusting.

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    If it still smells good I would. After reading this I wonder how old some of my perfumes are :-/

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    Ok, you have a myriad of different opinions now - how about putting us out of our misery and telling us what it is?

    For the record, light is a much more vital factor today consider than temperature. I'd go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul P View Post
    - since that date [1985] it has been stored in a house bathroom cabinet, so not much exposure to light
    - the bathroom is the warmest room in the house in summer (no direct sunlight on the cabinet), in a city with a coolish climate
    That sets alarm bells ringing, as humidity isn't good for fragrances in general.

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    Gentlemen,

    thanks to all of you who took the time to reply. Apologies for my late reply.

    Well, I did end up buying the fragrance, so I'll let you know how it goes when I receive it.

    Many thanks again.
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    This sounds very serious. I think sometimes, it best to just let go lol.

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    I'll see if I can get the photo a little bigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    To many unknown variables for me. I'd pass.
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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    It sounds like the fragrance you are considering has been well-taken care of. However, I would personally never store my scents near consistent steam. But then again, I AM OCD. I have bought fragrances which are that old and even older and they turned out to be exquisite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul P View Post
    Gentlemen,

    thanks to all of you who took the time to reply. Apologies for my late reply.

    Well, I did end up buying the fragrance, so I'll let you know how it goes when I receive it.

    Many thanks again.
    Ah finally: Paco Rabanne:...I would have left it in the bathroom cabinet...!

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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    How much did you pay for that severely abused bottle of PR?
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    $38 AUD including shipping.

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    Nice. Good deal for vintage PR.
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    Now that I've seen the bottle I say go for it!

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    Congratulations on vintage PR!

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    I buy vintage/used bottles on Ebay fairly regularly, and pay no attention at all to whatever a seller tells me about how the bottle was stored. As long as the price is right, I take a chance. Individual colognes seem to react very differently to heat, light, and general mistreatment, to the point where I've had 30-year old bottles that were supposedly stored on a bathroom counter smell just like I'd expect; and 5 year old bottles supposedly stored in a box in an air conditioned closet smell totally off.

    Besides, I tend not to trust anything that can't be verified. Statements like "Oh, I kept the bottle you're buying in a cabinet away from light and heat" are akin to the proverbial "Oh, this car was driven only on Sundays by a little old lady on her way to and from Church."
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    Default Re: Would you buy a fragrance with this history ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trauerkraut View Post
    Ah finally: Paco Rabanne:...I would have left it in the bathroom cabinet...!

    maybe you never smelled 1980's Paco Rabanne PH ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barclaydetolly View Post
    I buy vintage/used bottles on Ebay fairly regularly, and pay no attention at all to whatever a seller tells me about how the bottle was stored. As long as the price is right, I take a chance. Individual colognes seem to react very differently to heat, light, and general mistreatment, to the point where I've had 30-year old bottles that were supposedly stored on a bathroom counter smell just like I'd expect; and 5 year old bottles supposedly stored in a box in an air conditioned closet smell totally off.

    Besides, I tend not to trust anything that can't be verified. Statements like "Oh, I kept the bottle you're buying in a cabinet away from light and heat" are akin to the proverbial "Oh, this car was driven only on Sundays by a little old lady on her way to and from Church."
    That is absolutely true. There's no way of knowing, sometimes you just have to risk it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by barclaydetolly View Post
    "Oh, this car was driven only on Sundays by a little old lady on her way to and from Church."
    Please don't speak ill of my grandmother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinijo View Post
    maybe you never smelled 1980's Paco Rabanne PH ?
    ...I bought my first P.R. in 1973 sonnyboy...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    That sets alarm bells ringing, as humidity isn't good for fragrances in general.
    I've never understood how humidity could effect a sealed bottle.

    The humidity seeps through the glass ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdboy48 View Post
    I've never understood how humidity could effect a sealed bottle.

    The humidity seeps through the glass ?
    I would assume that it is simply the equivalent of a bottle being store in cold then hot, causing the bottle to sweat. Due to these changes in temperature it affects the juice....condensation is a son of a bitch to fragrance I would assume.

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