Longevity of fragrance

[Russellneal]

Anyone know the ingredient used to determine how long the fragrance lasts on the skin? I just dont get it, I have some very expensive fragrances that may last 2-3 hrs and I have cheap ones ie, (Lapidus/bogart) that last all day, so it`s not a cost issue, I would really like to know, anyone know???

[hednic]

I guess it's just the way certain fragrances react to one's skin chemistry.

[Russellneal]

I dont know anyone who complains about Lapidus/bogart etc not lasting very long, but I know plenty that complain about the premium products not lasting, skin chemistry is only a small part of it, any more ideas?

[cacio]

There are many molecules that last a long time on the skin (for instance, leather-type ones). Most of them are synthetic, there are very few natural substances that last a long time, and those few are now unavailable or too expensive (eg natural musk, sandalwood, ambergris). So ironically a perfume with a higher fraction of natural ingredients will usually last less.

Also, long lasting molecules tend to be heavier, darker, sweeter (woods, leathers, and the like). Fresh smelling molecules tend to be very fleeting. So perfumes that smell "fresh" have usually more problems with longevity.

cacio

[juanderer]

Frunobulax.

[David Ruskin]

There is no one single magical chemical that imparts longevity upon a fragrance. A fragrance has great longevity because the Perfumer made it so. To create a Perfume requires blending various materials which show a variety of evaporation times; a good Perfumer is able to construct something that lasts as long as the client wants.

[nfn1983]

I dont know anyone who complains about Lapidus/bogart etc not lasting very long, but I know plenty that complain about the premium products not lasting, skin chemistry is only a small part of it

Completely agree with you.

[catlettsl]

I think the whole longevity issue is an easy fix. Perfumers know the client wants a frag to last and to project ie to be smelled by others and a reasonable distance. For some of these companys to produce frags that last 2-3 hrs is robbery...then to charge 80, 90, 200 bucks is an insult. Yeah I like the smell of some of these but im not gonna be taken advantage of. Bottom line is its a business and as the consumer we are now at the bottom of the decision making processes. I totally believe regardless of genre, a perfumer can create a frag that performs well. The fact that they dont clearly shows that they are more interested in making money opposed to making consumers happy.

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[DuNezDeBuzier]

Somewhere down the line I picked up the following list. Granted, it mostly deals with naturals and I can't vouch for the accuracy but, by experience, it seems on the mark and perhaps might add to the discussion.

A rough 'order' of evaporating speeds, starting from the fastest...
1) Citrus Notes: e.g. grapefruit, bergamot, lemon
2) Herbaceous Notes: e.g. mint, rosemary
3) Green Notes: e.g. fresh cut grass
4) Aldehydic Notes: e.g. synthetic soft florals
5) Fruity Notes: e.g. apple, pineapple, melon
6) Floral Notes: e.g. lavender, blossom, rose
7) Spicy Notes: e.g. pepper, cinnamon, cumin
8) Woody Notes: e.g. sandalwood, cedarwood
9) Balsamic Notes: e.g. tree sap
10) Sweet Notes: e.g. vanilla, tonka bean
11) Mossy Notes: e.g. oakmoss
12) Animalic Notes: e.g. musk, civet, castoreum

In talented hands the whole can be made equal to much more than the component parts. More strength. More complexity. More sillage. More longevity. It's like magic.

[The Smelly Scientist]

If you want longevity, spray on your clothes. That's the only surefire way

[nfn1983]

If you want longevity, spray on your clothes. That's the only surefire way

Even with this trick you can not beat the horrible longevity and projection of some very good smelling scents! (Millesime Imperial, D&G The One, ...)
What a pity...
Believe me, I've done this many times and for a long time!

[noirdrakkar]

there's no magical chemical fragrances put in to increase longevity.

the longevity is inherent in the ingredients themselves.

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Somewhere down the line I picked up the following list. Granted, it mostly deals with naturals and I can't vouch for the accuracy but, by experience, it seems on the mark and perhaps might add to the discussion.

A rough 'order' of evaporating speeds, starting from the fastest...
1) Citrus Notes: e.g. grapefruit, bergamot, lemon
2) Herbaceous Notes: e.g. mint, rosemary
3) Green Notes: e.g. fresh cut grass
4) Aldehydic Notes: e.g. synthetic soft florals
5) Fruity Notes: e.g. apple, pineapple, melon
6) Floral Notes: e.g. lavender, blossom, rose
7) Spicy Notes: e.g. pepper, cinnamon, cumin
8) Woody Notes: e.g. sandalwood, cedarwood
9) Balsamic Notes: e.g. tree sap
10) Sweet Notes: e.g. vanilla, tonka bean
11) Mossy Notes: e.g. oakmoss
12) Animalic Notes: e.g. musk, civet, castoreum

In talented hands the whole can be made equal to much more than the component parts. More strength. More complexity. More sillage. More longevity. It's like magic.

sounds about right

[Russellneal]

Ok Guys, that just about covers it, thanks for your input.