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    Default What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    Hi all,

    I'm using and love the molton brown recharge black pepper shower gel.

    I've bought the same edt but I'm not impressed by it, just doesn't smell the same on my skin.

    So, what has a strong masculine black pepper note but no sweetness?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    Try Tzora by Anat Fritz
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    2) Giorgio for Men vintage/V.I.P. for Men (Giorgio Beverly Hills)
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    4) Les Nombres d'Or Vetyver (Mona di Orio) - tie
    4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    1881 Black by Cerrutti

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    Opus 1870 by Penhaligon's would do nicely, I think: Head Notes Bourbon black pepper, Yuzu fruit, Coriander Heart Notes English Clove Rose, Cinnamon, Incense Base Notes Cedarwood, Australian Sandalwood, Ciara wood, Musk.

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    Gucci Gucci Pour Homme I
    Tommy Bahama Tommy Bahama Men(brown)

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    Poivre Samarcande.
    Well, it's cheaper than therapy... edit: No it's not...

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    I guess this must be a very fleeting topnote. That is why on gourmet restaurants, they grind the pepper exactly at the moment when you are going to eat the food.

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    marc jacobs bang

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawful View Post
    marc jacobs bang
    Negative. Marc Jacobs Bang has Benzoin in it.

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    + 1 Anat Fritz Tzora.

    Also Carbone de Balmain

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    Oscar de la renta

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    Funny -- I used some of my sample of the Molton Brown black pepper shower gel this morning and had the very same question: what fragrance would feature this same particular black pepper effect? The only thing it sort of reminds me of is the peppery aspect of Wonderwood. The Molton Brown isn't just straight-up black pepper -- it's a very nice accord.

    For what it's worth, I didn't apply any fragrance after and was surprised how long the shower gel fragrance lingered on my skin.

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    Funny -- I used some of my sample of the Molton Brown black pepper shower gel this morning and had the very same question: what fragrance would feature this same particular black pepper effect? The only thing it sort of reminds me of is the peppery aspect of Wonderwood. The Molton Brown isn't just straight-up black pepper -- it's a very nice accord.

    For what it's worth, I didn't apply any fragrance after and was surprised how long the shower gel fragrance lingered on my skin.

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    Amouage Honour Men!!!!!!!!!

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    Oscar de La Renta for men +1

    Black pepper oil and clove; a delicious fresh-spicy-flowery scent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    Negative. Marc Jacobs Bang has Benzoin in it.
    Bang. It's not sweet by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QWERTYOP View Post
    Bang. It's not sweet by any stretch of the imagination.
    It's not overly sweet, but benzoin is going to give is some sweetness. The OP wanted it with no sweetness and benzoin is definately going to give it that.

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    L Artisan Parfumeur Navegar is my favorite pepper fragrance -
    to a lesser degree but still prominent pepper: Ramon Monegal Umbra (vetiver + pepper) and L' Occitane Pour Homme (lavender + pepper)

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    Cacharel Pour Homme.
    There seems to be mixed reaction regarding modern and vintage versions.
    I'm only familiar with the vintage version.....smouldering black pepper and nutmeg !
    The most masculine fragrance I have ever smelled.
    " Only wimps swim with the current "

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzlepuff View Post
    L Artisan Parfumeur Navegar is my favorite pepper fragrance -
    to a lesser degree but still prominent pepper: . . . d L' Occitane Pour Homme (lavender + pepper)
    ^^two spot on recommendations. OP, L'Occitan PH could be a great fragrance for you if you really enjoy lavender.

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    Gucci PH 1

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    I was thinking Wonderwood personally

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    Opus 1870
    Poivre Samarcande
    Winsdor


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    Brilliant everyone. I've wrote them all down and I'll see where I can get them.

    The l'occitane ph sounds quite nice and has some good reviews.

    Oscar is cheap on cheap smells so may be worth a blond buy.

    Most of the others I've never heard of but this is the journey we take with scents!

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    You won't regret Oscar, I am sure
    With the spring coming up this is good to have in your rotation!
    My Top '10' : (In no particular order)

    - Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vintage)
    - Paco Rabanne: Pour Homme (vintage)
    - Loewe: Esencia/Pour Homme/Solo/7
    - YSL: Opium Pour Homme Edp
    - Jacques Bogart: Bogart Pour Homme (2004)
    - MPG: Santal Noble
    - Guerlain: Vetiver
    - Amouage: Jubilation XXV
    - Hermes: Terre d'Hermes
    - YSL: Kouros (Fraicheur)

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    Fragonard has a new one out called 'Confidentiel'. They sent me a scented towelette thing, which smelled very peppery. Here's their description:

    Confidentiel ~ “A perfume of secrets… This new eau de toilette for men will not, however, go unnoticed! Pepper and pink peppercorn liven up the grapefruit for a fresh and spicy note. The middle note puts an accent on magnolia and incense on a cedar wood, patchouli and sandalwood back note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    It's not overly sweet, but benzoin is going to give is some sweetness. The OP wanted it with no sweetness and benzoin is definately going to give it that.
    I don't care what the note list says - it isn't sweet in the slightest.

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    Opus 1870 by Penhaligon's

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    L.V Piper nigrum

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    Amouage Honour Man
    Frederic Malle Noir Epices, this I'm looking to sell actually
    Gucci pour homme 1
    Chanel Allure Original (might be too sweet)

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    Quote Originally Posted by QWERTYOP View Post
    I don't care what the note list says - it isn't sweet in the slightest.
    We agree to disagree then. I also don't think it smells like black pepper..lol...smells peppery, but it's not black pepper. Black peppercorns are in the notes depending on what site you look at.
    Last edited by silentrich; 17th March 2013 at 11:20 AM.

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    Aedes de Venustas L Artisan

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    Dry, peppery

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    All the Ormande Jayne Masculines are peppery but this is the most popular one

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    Seconding Opus 1870

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    Negative. Marc Jacobs Bang has Benzoin in it.
    But it's defiantly not sweet, at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieNose View Post
    Brilliant everyone. I've wrote them all down and I'll see where I can get them.
    If you're still looking try Bulgari pour Homme. I get a lot of black pepper right from the start -- though it seems like my nose gets it way more than the average reviewer. Still, it's a really nice scent, not sweet at all, and easy enough to find at your department stores, Sephora, etc.; so worth a try, I'd say. Maybe it'll work for you as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDropIt View Post
    But it's defiantly not sweet, at all.
    I commented about it to the gentleman before you. From Fragrantica:

    Iso E Super has (not something one would describe as a concrete smell), and at the same time, how unapologetically synthetic, perhaps vaguely cedar-like, slightly sweet, nuanced, even peppery (in combination with other notes) it smells when you really notice it.


    Last edited by silentrich; 17th March 2013 at 08:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeDropIt View Post
    But it's defiantly not sweet, at all.
    I'm with the "not sweet" guys on Bang. I also think it smells like black pepper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Trick View Post
    Poivre Samarcande.
    THIS. It's black pepper and... that's it. As minimalistic as they get.

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    Some great suggestions here. My personal favorite black pepper fragrance is Burberry The Beat. It's not sweet.
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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    Negative. Marc Jacobs Bang has Benzoin in it.
    It still isn't sweet. I think the OP should try it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentrich View Post
    I commented about it to the gentleman before you.

    Iso E Super has (not something one would describe as a concrete smell), and at the same time, how unapologetically synthetic, perhaps vaguely cedar-like, slightly sweet, nuanced, even peppery (in combination with other notes) it smells when you really notice it.


    Yeah, sorry, just saw that.

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    I strongly concur! +1! This is a wonderful composition from Oscar de la Renta...amazing quality for the price.

    A wonderful black pepper note with elemi resin, wood and a very natural feel. Nice nutmeg is in here too, along with citrus in the top.

    Also, I happen to like Marc Jacobs Bang! - it has excellent QPR and wears well, especially when layered into a citrus scent that you want to add some fresh ground pepper to.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slayerized View Post
    Oscar de La Renta for men +1

    Black pepper oil and clove; a delicious fresh-spicy-flowery scent!

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    +1 on Burberry The Beat, too.

    Very nice juice and one I like in Spring and Fall the most...now is perfect for it.

    Cheers,

    ericrico

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post
    Some great suggestions here. My personal favorite black pepper fragrance is Burberry The Beat. It's not sweet.
    “Some perfumes are as fragrant as an infant’s flesh, sweet as an oboe’s cry, and greener than the spring; While others are triumphant, decadent or rich; Having the expansion of infinite things, like ambergris and musk, benzoin and frankincense, which sing the transports of the mind and every sense.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragmental View Post
    Opus 1870 by Penhaligon's would do nicely, I think: Head Notes Bourbon black pepper, Yuzu fruit, Coriander Heart Notes English Clove Rose, Cinnamon, Incense Base Notes Cedarwood, Australian Sandalwood, Ciara wood, Musk.
    Excellent peppery fruity citrus. Very gentlemanly despite the fruits.

    Another pepper bomb with no sweetness is Bang by Marc Jacobs.

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    Another vote for Carbone De Balmain.

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    Bang by Marc Jacobs

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    I agree with the many suggestions of Oscar For Men and, - if you can still find a bottle of it anywhere - Polo Sport Extreme is the most peppery scent I've come across. My only problem with Oscar for Men is that I get sensitised to it, so that instead of it having worn away by the end of the day, it seems to have grown in strength and screams black pepper at me.

    For less projection than the other two, Villoresi's Piper Nigrum would do nicely.
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    Yes ... Burberry's The Beat. A blast of black pepper off the top blended nicely with vetiver.

    This fragrance has really dropped off the radar here at Basenotes

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveStPaul View Post
    If you're still looking try Bulgari pour Homme. I get a lot of black pepper right from the start -- though it seems like my nose gets it way more than the average reviewer. Still, it's a really nice scent, not sweet at all, and easy enough to find at your department stores, Sephora, etc.; so worth a try, I'd say. Maybe it'll work for you as well.
    I agree with this, although the pepper note does not stay strong.

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    Marc Jacobs BANG has the most powerful projective black pepper smell I have ever smelled in a fragrance.

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    So, Bang seems to be dividing opinions if it sweet or not but one thing that stands out is that it is peppery. With that, it's on the list.

    I've ordered some Oscar which was dirt cheap.

    L'occitane is on its way too.

    Confidentiele is on the must try as we'll as some of the other more obscure (to me anyway) scents.

    Gucci is a no go, tried it and I'm struggling to get past a sweetish note.

    I want black pepper from start to finish. I can see this is going to be a long and enjoyable path. Like, I dunno, lord of the rings but actually good.

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    Halston Man and Burberry the Beat
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    Get Bang
    "The beginning of freedom is the realization that you are not the "thinker." The moment you start watching the thinker, a higher level of consciousness becomes activated. You then begin to realize that there is a vast realm of intelligence beyond thought, that thought is only a tiny aspect of that intelligence. You also realize that all the things that truly matter - beauty, love, creativity, joy, inner peace - arise from beyond the mind.

    You begin to awaken"

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieNose View Post
    So, Bang seems to be dividing opinions if it sweet or not but one thing that stands out is that it is peppery. With that, it's on the list....
    Only one poster thinks it has any sweetness, the majority are in agreement that it is anything but sweet. If you want peppery this should please you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chopwet View Post
    Only one poster thinks it has any sweetness, the majority are in agreement that it is anything but sweet. If you want peppery this should please you.
    It's the Iso E Super that's doing it and that does have a slight amber like sweetness to it. I know some people can't even smell Iso E Super so whatever I'm smelling is specifically that molecule. Have worn a lot of fragrances that have quite a bit in it, but for some reason the combination of that and the notes in Bang are playing tricks with my nose.

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    Yes

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    Yes Get Bang

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewbieNose View Post
    So, Bang seems to be dividing opinions if it sweet or not but one thing that stands out is that it is peppery. With that, it's on the list.

    I've ordered some Oscar which was dirt cheap.

    L'occitane is on its way too.

    Confidentiele is on the must try as we'll as some of the other more obscure (to me anyway) scents.

    Gucci is a no go, tried it and I'm struggling to get past a sweetish note.

    I want black pepper from start to finish. I can see this is going to be a long and enjoyable path. Like, I dunno, lord of the rings but actually good.
    I wore The Beat yesterday. It's pepper from start to finish. Everything else (woods, vetiver, bourbon) is hiding behind the pepper. There is a floral note in the mid, closer to the opening, it smells like lavender to me, but I could be wrong.
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    Black pepper is one of my most preferred notes when it comes to fragrances, so from what I have/had/tried until now, I would also recommend:
    Burberry the Beat
    Marc Jacobs Bang
    L.Villoresi Piper Nigrum
    O.D.L.R. Oscar for Men
    Cacharel pour L'Homme

    and some more:
    Pal Zileri Concept No. 18
    Fendi Theorema Uomo
    Cartier Eau de Cartier Concentree
    "I love fragrances because they provide a sheer endless variety: there is a scent for every occasion, mood or feeling. Standing before my collection in the morning matching a perfume to my needs is one of the most enjoyable things in my day". I don't want to miss that

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    Dior Fahrenheit | Givenchy pour Homme | Carolina Herrera for Men | Narciso Rodriguez Him | T. Mugler A*Men Sunessence | Trussardi Inside | C. Herrera Chic | Azzaro PH | M. Kors Michael for Men | Pal Zileri Sartoriale |

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    Villoresi Piper Nigrum

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    Default Re: What has a strong black pepper note but not sweet?

    My other favorite black pepper scent is Scent Two:Laurel by Monocle x CdG and Poivre 23 by Le Labo - both of which are harder to source and more expensive than the Marc Jacobs.
    "The beginning of freedom is the realization that you are not the "thinker." The moment you start watching the thinker, a higher level of consciousness becomes activated. You then begin to realize that there is a vast realm of intelligence beyond thought, that thought is only a tiny aspect of that intelligence. You also realize that all the things that truly matter - beauty, love, creativity, joy, inner peace - arise from beyond the mind.

    You begin to awaken"

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