IMO it wouldn't be redundant.
I'm tempted to blind buy the current formulation (in dark green bottle) of Tsar. I'm a fan of Quorum, Azzaro PH, Rive Gauche, Z14, and others of this ilk. Would Tsar be redundant given my collection?
IMO it wouldn't be redundant.
I've seen 2 different formulations but I don't know the difference between vintage and current formulation, can anyone mention them?
The current formulation of Tsar is excellent.
Make sure you get the version above in the leafy patterned box. It's a green, fresh and long lasting fragrance - projects pretty well and smells good for 8hrs+. Opens with strong lavender and herbs but dries down woodsy and mossy.
It should fit in well with the other fragrances in your collection but is quite different from the ones listed.
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The one to avoid looks like this:
It's not terrible but is weaker than the current one and why buy it when the better ones are so easily available?
Last edited by Derbyman; 26th April 2013 at 02:49 PM.
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second formulation
for the recent formulation, see Derbyman´s pic.
Thanks easyfish! I couldn't find a decent picture of the original / vintage! I believe this is considered as the original and best version but the current is very close. The old bottles look very similar to current but are soild coloured, not opaque. (Same with Van Cleef and Arpels Pour Homme)
First time I ever saw the second formulation bottle. Use to own the Dark Green bottle. Longevity is crazy!
unfortunately, THIS is the real Tsar:
(Find the box with "two squares, one partially inside the other").
http://www.evecare.com/images/produc...eef_Arpels.jpg
http://www.basenotes.net/photos/st/26121614.jpg
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Save your money. Cheap watered down garbage. Buy something decent.
Well, two things:
- the vintage and the "green leaves" version got the two squares.
- your pics (smaller sizes, one splash and the ad photo (100 ml spray) show the original juice!
Plus, as far as I know, the green leaves version is the recent one and the second reformulation.
Yes, this is 100% correct imo!
The green leaves box is the second reformulation, current juice and most similar to vintage, not the first reformulation Andre; see also Derby's and easyfish correct posts. The ribbed glass bottle which is to be avoided is the first reformulation.
The vintage splash and spray smell the same. (I own all versions: vintage splash and spray and green leaf bottle, except the ribbed glass version)
My Top '11' : (In no particular order)
- Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vtg)
- Paco Rabanne: pour homme (vtg)
- Armani: Acqua di Gio Profumo
- Davidoff: Leather Blend Edp
- Rasasi: Al Wisam Day
- Dior: Fahrenheit (vtg)
- YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
- Mancera: Cedrat Boise
- MPG: Santal Noble
- Knize Ten
- Amouage: Interlude
Green Leaves box is the 2nd (current) reformulation: sort of a repair job on the disaster that ws the ribbed-bottle edition.
ointments and perfume delight the heart....
#BBOG!
Oh yeah...I smelled this recently. I liked it.
Nice fragrance with good longevity and projection
Current top choices:
1- Portrait of A Lady
2- Guerlain Derby
3- Tom Ford Cafe Rose
4- Bond 9 New York Oud
5- Clive Christian #1
6- Coromandel by Chanel
7- Acqua Di Parmal Oud
8- Chanel 19
9- Dior Oud Isphahn
10- Carnal Flower
Good cheapie powerhouse. Not for below 25 youngsters
Regards
Claus The Danish Viking
Thanks for asking 'cause I was about to ask about it.
I'll share my story on this one.
Back in 1991-1992, my girlfriend gave me a bottle of Tsar for my 26th. birthday, according to her I was wearing only "old man fragrances" (Z-14 and Fahrenheit). As soon as I sprayed it, I thought "What the...?!" this is really feels even more mature! of-course I didn't say anything, lol.
Now fast forward, I saw it at Marshalls, the one with the leafy box. the price was a steal and I'm thinking well I'm 45 now so maybe it'll work now. But no, still doesn't. Somehow I remember it more green-isch or fresh-ier, maybe more mossy!? So I started using it as an air freshener in my bathroom.
So the other day my daughter comes home from school she goes into my room and says to me "Dad I don't like what your wearing, you smell like a "Dad's cologne" lol, I wasn't wearing anything, it was just my new air freshener taking over the whole apartment. I totally agree with her.
Now, don't get me wrong is not bad and yes if you have those you mention I think you'll like it. It is strong and for the price, get it, it won't be a great loss if you don't like it.
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Form is emptiness, emptiness is form.
Yes, I apologize, I made confusion with pictures. Very sorry for confusing ideas.
The vintage perfume I was considering -the first version, launched in 1989- is the one with the two squares both on box AND bottle.
My Top '11' : (In no particular order)
- Dolce & Gabbana: Pour Homme (vtg)
- Paco Rabanne: pour homme (vtg)
- Armani: Acqua di Gio Profumo
- Davidoff: Leather Blend Edp
- Rasasi: Al Wisam Day
- Dior: Fahrenheit (vtg)
- YSL: Kouros (Fraîcheur)
- Mancera: Cedrat Boise
- MPG: Santal Noble
- Knize Ten
- Amouage: Interlude
You seem to be in the great minority. When was the last time you tried it?
BTW I have looked high and low in and around Portland, OR, for a sample - no one has this one in stock. I haven't seen it at my local Ross, TJ Maxx, Marshalls either. Does Perfumania still carry this?
Dig my vintage bottle, good stuff. Considerably different from Quorum, Azzaro (no leather), Rive Gauche (no sweet powder / barbershop thing), and Z-14 (no cinnamon, much less woody).
Edit: I find the dihydromyrcenol ruins the rest of the composition and have since sold my bottle. Hate that stuff.
i think i might have seen tsar at tj maxx recently..i will keep an eye out
14 sprays of DRAKKAR NOIR should do it
^ Let me know if you see it around PDX or Clackamas.
Curiously, I'm a big fan of the one in this bottle. I have two bottles of it, and it lasts longer with strength on me than the 30ml dark bottle I bought 12 years ago. I do recollect, however, that quite a few people here were like you and were unhappy with the content of this clear bottled one when it came out.
Regards,
Renato
I tried once the first reformulation and thought it a so so, to me something like jazz. But there are many many guys telling the recent one had a improvement back to vintage roots. By the way, i will be buyng the leafy Van Cleef and Arpels PH to see what i get. Overall i was happy that some house did the way back, instead of watering down again and again.
^ Did you make your purchase of this yet voidvader?
If someone wants it, I'll sell or swap my bottle.
Form is emptiness, emptiness is form.
Hi Renato - I'm sure I read somewhere on here that there might have been some better versions of the 'ribbed bottle' around. I'm sure someone else reported that theirs was much better than they expected or had read. I'll see if I can find the thread.
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I think this is the thread I was thinking of...
http://www.basenotes.net/threads/215...cleef%20arpels
scentimus's original post is very relevant to the discussion here and it was our pine-loving friend odysseusm who liked the 'ribbed' bottle version.
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