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    Default Re: Fueguia 1833 . . . Any information on this line

    I own Ballena de la Pampa.
    They are captivating scents, with original ideas and an high quality of molecules. Exist three concentration: Eau de Parfum (100ml and 30 ml), Parfum (100ml and 30ml) and Absolute (30ml only). I can tell you that the difference from EdP to Prf or Abs is ENORMOUS. Unfortunately produce few bottles and Prf and Abs are very rare. I don't recommend to buy EdP because have poor sillage, poor longevity but nice skin-scent-evolution; the pure perfume, on the contrary, is extraordinarily powerful and performant.



    Returning to Ballena de la Pampa... is a magical cocktail of 13 different musks that create a wrap cashmere on your skin, smoothly animalic with bits of pale green hay, a field of grass like Argentine Pampas. The ambregris complete this strange (and magical) alchemy with a salty base, sapid and animal. A luminous fragrance that smells of nature, sun and sea. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filomele View Post
    I own Ballena de la Pampa.
    They are captivating scents, with original ideas and an high quality of molecules. Exist three concentration: Eau de Parfum (100ml and 30 ml), Parfum (100ml and 30ml) and Absolute (30ml only). I can tell you that the difference from EdP to Prf or Abs is ENORMOUS. Unfortunately produce few bottles and Prf and Abs are very rare. I don't recommend to buy EdP because have poor sillage, poor longevity but nice skin-scent-evolution; the pure perfume, on the contrary, is extraordinarily powerful and performant.
    Thanks for the info.

    Based on what I was told, Agua de Perfume isn't really an EDP - it's more of an EDT. Below is what the terms used actually mean, in terms of concentration:

    ABSOLUTO: 24% Extrait
    PERFUME: 16% Eau de Parfum
    AGUA DE PERFUME: 8% Eau de Toilette
    Last edited by Trebor; 8th May 2013 at 01:23 PM.

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    Default Re: Fueguia 1833 . . . Any information on this line

    EdT: 8%-15% as EdP but near 8%
    EdP: 8%-15% (near 15%) with 80%-90% alchool and 20%-10% water
    Prf/Abs: 15%-40% (less is Prf, more is Abs) with only Alchool (no water)

    But in the case of Fueguia, I didn't want to make a technical discourse; beyond the percentages, the performance on skin between EdP and Prf is enormously different. In the second case is more exciting. This doesn't happen with Grossmith (for example).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Filomele View Post
    EdT: 8%-15% as EdP but near 8%
    EdP: 8%-15% with 80%-90% alchool and 20%-10% water
    Prf/Abs: 15%-40% (less is Prf, more is Abs) with only Alchool (no water)

    But in the case of Fueguia, I didn't want to make a technical discourse; beyond the percentages, the performance on skin between EdP and Prf is enormously different. In the second case is more exciting. This doesn't happen with Grossmith (for example).
    From what I know, the typical concentration for an EDT is around 10% and higher for an EDP. It's not a hard and fast rule but the concentration for genuine EDPs is usually in double figures.

    Regardless, I would avoid the Agua de Perfumes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Filomele View Post
    But in the case of Fueguia, I didn't want to make a technical discourse
    But this is a consumer product that will require people to spend their money. The more information the better, especially when the stated concentrations are using unconventional phrasing.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Fueguia 1833 has confirmed that both Luckyscent and Aedes are stocking the Perfume concentration. So, there you go.
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    Sampled quite a few from this line over the week and wasn't impressed at all. Didn't find a single original scent in the bunch. Wrote a long post about it but figured I'll be diplomatic and not post it. If you're familiar with niche and looking for something creative, avoid. If you're into houses like Arquiste and Agonist you'll enjoy this house.

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    I tried all of them, and I'm sorry to say that most of the line's stuff is crap. The idea seems to be to take one ingredient as the focus and then complement it with a few more, which results in timid, unadventurous, and unsuccessful compositions. Add to this the price, and it's no wonder Fuegia's fragrances were limited to Argentina for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kende View Post
    If you're into houses like Arquiste and Agonist you'll enjoy this house.
    As I am not, you've saved me time.

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    50? it's 60 releases. twice as many as Lutens. Thanks but, no thanks.

    Aedes.com has big interview with the owner of fueguia 1833. Argentinians should stick to beef, vine and football. imo

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    Wow, now im tempted to try these out !

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    I tried a few... I concur with those who compare them with Arquiste and Agonist. Not my style at all.

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    Are their sampler sets available through the pdf catalog on their site? I sniffed Misiones at Aedes & might love it...

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    I have tried their full line at their flagship store in Buenos Aires. The best presentation of any product I have ever seen!!

    Although its a unisex line, for men, I preferred Zonda, Sudestada, Xocoatl, Darwin, Fitzroy and Thays.
    For women, I liked Ballena de la Pampa, Amalia, Amalia Gourmand, Malena and La Cautiva

    If I have to pick one, Zonda for men is the best. I use the Absolute version and its divine.
    For women, I loved Ballena de la Pampa and Amalia Gourmand.
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    I really had a high hope for this line. Yesterday I tried some in Paris. The collection smells natural, simple, soft, and...spicey. The scents have "nice" character, which is totally not for me.

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    At the beginning Bedel was venturing into very interesting proposals: I remember a Vetiver that smelt like Vetiver a la Carven / 1960's. He told me vetiver was getting more difficultt to get. You can get good quality vetiver from Paraguay, but getting the roots of the plant is quite cumbersome, so workers rather work harvesting oranges and mate. You can get vetiver, but not in the scale needed in order to produce batches. As to the other one, it was a tuberose-based blend impossible to produce due to prices. Both were remarkable.

    As I said previously, I own a bunch of them: price differences between those charged by Lucky Scent and Aedes and their local store is quite significant: you can get 30 ml Eaux de Parfum for USD 30, and 100 ml bottles for USD 70 (at the paralel Dolar exchange, almost AR$ 10 for USD 1). My suggestion would be to ask for samples from their store in BA and later ask someone to buy your prefered ones from their store in Av. Alvear.

    The problem is that their line is more than extensive, the store has this policy of producing small batches and discontinuing them. For instance, they reformulated Thays, IMHO the actual one (Mate, Green Tea and a local ingredient called Cabreura) is not as compelling as the original (I cherish this sample). I asked for Santalum, they got me La Joven Noche (Mysore Santalum, New Caledonian Sandalwood (?) and Spicatum Sandalwood). An excelent sandalwod scent but please take into account my experience sniffing classic sandalwood blends praised by BNoters is limited, to say the least.

    Some of them are, well, difficult to pull through. I tried a new one, Enneadas, the top/mid notes were too dry and discordant, and the basenotes was pure guaiac - which, BTW, Natura has a real good one, albeit ubiquitous. I bought a 30 ml bottle of Otro Poema de los Dones, wonderful woody scent made of Buddha Wood (?), Agarwood and Misiones Cedar. As for Xocoaetl, I made huge efforts to like it to no avail, I find it discordant: the vanilla, cocoa and rum blend combo feels odd, which should not be so. Jacarandá, their Chypre, does not smell as such. Any chypre is better than that, N° 19 rules unbeaten. But their their rose - based scent, Juan Manuel, is marvelous.

    In other words, with so many being in their line, it is an olfative impediment getting a good idea of their proposal, the line feels unordered. And as such, there are good blends and others that are... difficult to get. For example, Corvina Negra smells like fish, more of and EldO's scent. Plus, they all share this oily-popylenglycol galore (or whatever it may be) feeling that I find anoying. They are launching a jojoba carrier scent line, I wonder if the line includes their best sellers - if memory fails me not, El Mono de la Tinta, Hornero and Ballena de la Pampa were among them. Somehting else: their woody scents share more than a family air.

    Rest assure: you'll get longevity and silage. Plus the store is amazingly luxurious.
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