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    Default Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    I'm looking for something a bit lighter for the summer, but I really don't like a lot of the traditional summer notes. Not a massive citrus fan, hate aquatics, find the traditional Eau de Cologne too stifling. Is there such a thing as a summer amber or a light vetiver? Has to be niche, not designer...

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Ambre Muscadin by LM Parfums might work.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Le Labo Vetiver 46.
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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Since you like Memoir Man have you tried Amouage Ciel Man or Silver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev320 View Post
    Since you like Memoir Man have you tried Amouage Ciel Man or Silver?
    No. I'll hunt out some Ciel, because I'm definitely on a big frankincense kick at the moment. Actually, the lighter, lemony side of frankincense would be just what I'm looking for.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Lime oud (the older the better, new batch is 5 shades lighter), Opus VI

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    Quote Originally Posted by outline View Post
    Lime oud (the older the better, new batch is 5 shades lighter), Opus VI
    I'm experimenting with Aoud Lime and Black Aoud at the moment - wife likes Lime and I like Black so far but it probably didn't help matters that I spilled most of the Lime sample on myself and my desk. Still, pretty wonderful, both scents.

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    Ambre Muscadin by LM Parfums might work.
    Interesting: summer animalics. Which reminds me: must get a bottle of Mouchoir de Monsieur...

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    Turtle Vetiver Back by LesNez
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    4) Lalfeorosa (O'driù) - tie

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    gucci pour homme ii

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    Original Vetiver

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Geranium pour Monsieur.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    L'Artisan Timbuktu
    CdG Vettiveru
    CdG Hinoki
    Frederic Malle Vetiver Extraordinaire
    Frederic Malle Geranium pour Monsieur

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    I share your dislikes.

    CdG 2Man (technically designer)
    Nasomatto Hindu Grass
    Byredo Gypsy Water
    Slumberhouse Grev
    TF Amber Absolute (may be cloying; also designer, technically)
    Heeley Cardinals
    Lush Breath of God (cheap!)
    Serge Lutens De Profundis
    Diptyque Philosykos

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Timbuktu is an interesting idea from ontheline. In a somewhat similar vein, IMO, you might enjoy Montale Red Vetyver.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    After Midnight (The Different Cie): A gourmand Cologne for summer!

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Eight and Bob
    Mona di Orio vetyver

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    L'Artisan Parfumeur Dzongkha maybe, as an alternative to Timbuktu.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    +1 Eight & Bob

    A lot of nice light vetivers out there, but the 4 best ones that come to mind are all from designer houses.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    I second the recommendations for Timbuktu and Dzongkha, and would like to add Serge Lutens L'Eau Froide. It is a fresh cool incense.

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    Diptyque Philosykos or 34 Boulevard Saint Germain
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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    In sparse quantities, the somewhat lighter gourmand Endymion by Penhaligons might work, especially during summer evenings.

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    Default Vetiver

    Lorenzo villoresi Vetiver is lovely.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    +another on L'Eau Froide (although it does contain a citrus element) and Endymion.

    Others: Dia Man by Amouage (non-cloying amber); Vetiver Oriental by Lutens (odd sweetish gaiac wood/vetiver hybrid); L'Homme de Coeur by Divine (soft woody iris).

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Great suggestions - thank you! Lots of good vetiver ideas and some other intriguing ones as well. Timbuktu is on my list already and so are Geranium pour Monsieur and Cardinal. I've tried Endymion and wasn't entirely sold, though the family liked it! Vetiver Extraordinaire is great but a bit dense for warm weather, maybe? Meanwhile, plenty of stuff to feed the new obsession...

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    Why does it have to be niche, non designer? A good frag is a good frag. I have gotten many compliments from Oscar for men and lanvin homme sport as any of my frags costing two or three times the price. I wasnt sure about oscar til the weather warmed up and now is one of my favs. I also wear and get compliments on Musgo Real #2 oakmoss which is a fantastic frag when the weather warms up. I know that is not a designer but at $30 for 100 ml its not probably what you consider niche.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    The new Lubins are quite excellent vetivers with some good oomph but light enough for Summer

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    I second L'Homme de Coeur.
    Philosykos is a good choice as well.
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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Already mentioned:

    Timbuktu
    is always great. Rich dry woods but it works fairly well in heat.

    I initially wrote it off but Geranium pour Monsieur is as fresh, salubrious, energetic and bracing as they come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smoothie72 View Post
    Why does it have to be niche, non designer? A good frag is a good frag. I have gotten many compliments from Oscar for men and lanvin homme sport as any of my frags costing two or three times the price. I wasnt sure about oscar til the weather warmed up and now is one of my favs. I also wear and get compliments on Musgo Real #2 oakmoss which is a fantastic frag when the weather warms up. I know that is not a designer but at $30 for 100 ml its not probably what you consider niche.
    It's not the price point: nothing wrong with Old Spice! I'll definitely give the Musgo a sniff. I just find that a lot of designer scents do things that I don't like. Men's fragrances, that is. Women still seem to smell interesting in them. It's the (maybe just perceived) creativity of niche that appeals to me, plus I'm a collector by nature. I like things to be obscure and challenging to find, even if they end up smelling bizarre. You've got to keep yourself entertained in this life...

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    Second Geranium pour Monsieur and Turtle Vetiver Back.
    Sans parfum, la peau est muette.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    For a light amber, maybe Amber Topkapi-MDCI would be something for you. Have to second Geranium pour Monsieur
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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    +1 on trying Geranium Pour Monsieur, too much mint for me but perfect for summer.

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    Geranium Pour Monsieur ahead by a mile, it seems.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Quote Originally Posted by OdilonRedon View Post
    It's not the price point: nothing wrong with Old Spice! I'll definitely give the Musgo a sniff. I just find that a lot of designer scents do things that I don't like. Men's fragrances, that is. Women still seem to smell interesting in them. It's the (maybe just perceived) creativity of niche that appeals to me, plus I'm a collector by nature. I like things to be obscure and challenging to find, even if they end up smelling bizarre. You've got to keep yourself entertained in this life...
    I certainly understand being drawn to the obscure and challenging -- I'm that way myself. But I find that the classics and notables in the designer world can be just as obscure and challenging these days, given the glut of generic and insipid stuff out there (especially for men) right now. Track down some original M7 or Kouros, or even Fahrenheit, for instance, and my point is perfectly illustrated. Most of my favorite scents are designer releases, but certainly fall into the challenging or at least trend-bucking categories (I'm thinking of Fahrenheit, Bulgari Black, Sycomore, and Dior Homme, as examples).

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Fragonard Vetyver is a delightful fresh, grassy vetiver, with a note of lemon and a hint of bracing pine. Though not niche, it’s hardly mainstream either, and quite inexpensive for the quality. Good summer scent.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Guerlain's Vetiver Pour Elle is exceptional. So is Timbuktu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdilonRedon View Post
    It's not the price point: nothing wrong with Old Spice! I'll definitely give the Musgo a sniff. I just find that a lot of designer scents do things that I don't like. Men's fragrances, that is. Women still seem to smell interesting in them. It's the (maybe just perceived) creativity of niche that appeals to me, plus I'm a collector by nature. I like things to be obscure and challenging to find, even if they end up smelling bizarre. You've got to keep yourself entertained in this life...
    lol, pathetic.
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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Creed Original Vetiver is the lightest summery vetiver I know, and would be a nice choice.

    In a similar vein is Mugler Cologne, often mentioned as the twin to OV.
    Current Top Ten:

    1. Creed Millesime Imperial
    2. Serge Lutens Chergui
    3. Hermes Concentre d'Orange Verte
    4. Creed Virgin Island Water
    5. Chanel Eau de Cologne
    6. Thierry Mugler Pure Havane
    7. Van Cleef & Arpels Pour Homme
    8. Bulgari Blu
    9. Bond No. 9 New Haarlem
    10. YSL Kouros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roblord View Post
    lol, pathetic.
    No room for nastiness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barclaydetolly View Post
    Creed Original Vetiver is the lightest summery vetiver I know, and would be a nice choice.

    In a similar vein is Mugler Cologne, often mentioned as the twin to OV.
    I concur!

    I love Mugler Cologne haven't broken this baby out this year yet, I enjoy wearing this in the high heat! Original Vetiver is a copy of Mugler Cologne, as MC existed first!

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Calling others nasty when one has infractions for that is not cool. Stay on the subject.

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    Great thread, Odilon. And great ideas, mates.

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    I'll join the chorus of GPM. It's very nicely done, but it still reminds me of toothpaste (I know others don't get that, but I think Menthe Fraiche handles it better with the big bergamot note up top...which won't work for the OP).

    Also might be worth checking out Ciel as someone mentioned and you agreed. It's pretty nice, but I'd have to wear it more than the one time I've currently to get a better idea of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveStPaul View Post
    Great thread, Odilon. And great ideas, mates.
    Cheers, Dave!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuigi View Post
    Calling others nasty when one has infractions for that is not cool. Stay on the subject.
    I didn't realize my post was ad-hominem. And criticizing me is gratuitous, no?

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    Default Re: Niche Summer Fragrance: no citrus, no cologne, no barbershop!

    This is the summer frag for me.

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    Have you smelled Rose 31 yet? Le Labo sells samples on their website. It could be right up your alley.

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    +1.

    The thread states the OP is looking for niche, but I hope he makes an exception for this one. GphII really is a unique scent that doesn't seem to fit into the designer crowd. It's excellent and unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Have you smelled Rose 31 yet? Le Labo sells samples on their website. It could be right up your alley.
    Yes. It's brilliant. I didn't get it at first and then... I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    GphII really is a unique scent that doesn't seem to fit into the designer crowd. It's excellent and unique.
    I've been hearing that a lot. What the hell - I've already broken my own rule anyway because I dig CdG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdilonRedon View Post
    Yes. It's brilliant. I didn't get it at first and then... I did.
    What the heck was I thinking? Of COURSE you've smelled it! You listed it right there in your original post as one you love! Oops. I got deep into the thread, and Rose 31 kept coming to mind. Anyway... I've been meaning to sample more from Le Labo ever since I smelled Rose 31.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Have you smelled Rose 31 yet? Le Labo sells samples on their website. It could be right up your alley.

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    +1.

    The thread states the OP is looking for niche, but I hope he makes an exception for this one. GphII really is a unique scent that doesn't seem to fit into the designer crowd. It's excellent and unique.
    and has no longevity.... great scent though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letitbenose View Post
    After Midnight (The Different Cie): A gourmand Cologne for summer!
    +1 to After Midnight. Freakin amazing scent. Was this close to pulling the trigger for a full bottle.

    Another suggestion for a summer vetiver is Vetiver Tonka by Hermes. I've found it to be light enough even for summer days. The sweetness never gets too cloying.

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