I thought maybe you didn't read it again I suggested it in the twi-huddler-light zone.
As far as I'm concerned NBR come in primarily two renditions.
Girly & soft rose - Rose Absolue
Voluptuous rose: sa majeste la rose
We regularly have these varieties oud roses growing in our garden eddy year.
I prefer the latter.
Or the former with oud oil & fumigate my clothes with oud wood.