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    Default MITSOUKO year 2013: 5-batches blind-test review.

    Mitsouko year 2013: Does the Empress strike back?

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    Default Re: MITSOUKO year 2013: 5-batches blind-test review.

    Thanks André. Your services to Guerlain-ology deserve hearty applause

    Must get my hands on the most recent EdT before it all goes wrong again ...

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    Thanks for your efforts. It's somewhat good to hear that 2013-EdP is "worth it".

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    Thanks for laying it out there

    I recently bought the 2013 Extrait and it feels good - considerably better than the 2011. Haven't seen the 2013 EDP here but will keep an eye out.

    My reference Mitsouko is a PDT bottle and one older Parfum that came in the little round 'clam shell' Meteorite, which I haven't put a date on.

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    I agree that there has been a massive improvement in the latest batches of Mitsouko. I recently brought the parfum with a 3U01 serial and the velvety dark green is back well balanced with the slightly yeasty peach. Much better than the 1R01 serial bottle I also have.
    I have a small amount of a mid 60's Mitsouko which is the best as it also has the deep waxy element but I would now rather get the latest parfum than gamble on a vintage bottle.

    From speaking to someone at Guerlain I know how hard Thierry Wasser has been working to improve Mitsouko so congratulations to him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saminlondon View Post
    Thanks André. Your services to Guerlain-ology deserve hearty applause . Must get my hands on the most recent EdT before it all goes wrong again ...
    Grt reviews Andre; you & Mr.G needs to be hired as "online consultants" by Guerlain, seriously...I will be buying the 2013 version EDP soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrč Moreau View Post
    Mitsouko year 2013: Does the Empress strike back?
    Thank you so much for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe C View Post
    I agree that there has been a massive improvement in the latest batches of Mitsouko. I recently brought the parfum with a 3U01 serial and the velvety dark green is back well balanced with the slightly yeasty peach. Much better than the 1R01 serial bottle I also have.
    I have a small amount of a mid 60's Mitsouko which is the best as it also has the deep waxy element but I would now rather get the latest parfum than gamble on a vintage bottle.

    From speaking to someone at Guerlain I know how hard Thierry Wasser has been working to improve Mitsouko so congratulations to him!
    That's fantastic to hear. I was wondering if the parfum had also been updated. I had recently bought a new bottle of the parfum but it was still the 2012 batch, so I'm really looking forward now to the 2013 version.

    Joe, when you say "velvety dark green", do you mean the colour of the juice or the smell? Thanks.

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    Default Re: MITSOUKO year 2013: 5-batches blind-test review.

    Excellent, Andre! I've been hearing that this latest batch was a pretty good restoration, but it's nice to see a direct comparison. I'm going to seek out a recent batch.
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    The code on the Mitsuoko EdP I recently bought is 3P01, which according to the chart means it's a 2013 version. For me, it's very different from the extrait and the EdC you sent, Rubegon. Do you know what years they were?

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    Default Re: MITSOUKO year 2013: 5-batches blind-test review.

    SF - unfortunately, I have no idea what the vintage of the parfum is, as I received it as a bonus sample in a swap at some point. I don't even recall who I got it from.
    The EdC, on the other hand, I decanted from a vintage bottle I own. It's from the mid-70s, I think. I need to check the batch codes to know the exact year, but it's a bit in accessible at the moment.

    So yours is the new Wasser formulation with the low-atranol oak moss. Cool! I've been wanting to try this, but the testers I come across are always older. Where did you get it?
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    New to basenotes - sorry to reply to such an old post - I just bought a vintage EDT (looks like 1983) on ebay (i'm new so I can't post the link) but what is all the fuss for vintage if the post-2013 juice smells like it has the oak moss I love? It was in the zig zag package and supposedly unopened but is it worth it to buy vintage Mitsouko anymore when you risk it being off and the new formulation is now close to the original?
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    Default Re: MITSOUKO year 2013: 5-batches blind-test review.

    Quote Originally Posted by CorneliaLove View Post
    New to basenotes - sorry to reply to such and old post - I just bought a vintage EDT (looks like 1983) on ebay (i'm new so I can't post the link) but what is all the fuss for vintage if the post-2013 juice smells like it has the oak moss I love? It was in the zig zag package and supposedly unopened but is it worth it to buy vintage Mitsouko anymore when you risk it being off and the new formulation is now close to the original?
    Welcome to Basenotes! And don't worry - it's always a pleasure to talk about Mitsouko

    The point about Mitsouko is that it went through a bad patch in the 2000s - the fault of IFRA-led directives that restricted the use of some key ingredients, chief among them oakmoss, which lends Mitsouko so much of its character. This caused a huge upset among perfume folk, especially those who had known and worn the original for years. As a consequence, vintage Mitsouko, which contains all the oakmoss, ambergris etc you would ever need, became much sought-after.

    In 2013 Thierry Wasser, Guerlain's in-house perfumer, reorchestrated the perfume using a new, permitted version of oakmoss and tweaking some of the other notes to smooth over the seams. The result was broadly acknowledged as being a 'return to form', as you can read in André's summary above. The new stuff is not exactly the same as the old, but it's very close, and some prefer it since it's less dense, slightly airier and fresher. Since you've just bought some vintage, you'll be able to do a direct comparison with the current juice and come to your own conclusions.

    Vintage is still very good, as long as it's not too old and looks to have been well stored, and it is likely to have real ambergris, giving it a real 'glow'. I guess as long as vintage remains cheaper than the current retail price, and you're prepared to take a modicum of risk, there's every reason to consider it alongside the new. It all comes down to which 'style' you'd prefer. Hope that helps.

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    Default Re: MITSOUKO year 2013: 5-batches blind-test review.

    Welcome!

    As sami was saying. It's certainly worth to get vintage. If there is a box, the perfume is likely to be in a good condition, though one can never know for sure. How much one is wiling to spend for it, of course, depends on one's budget. Prices of vintage Guerlains can be really high. Also, vintage is typically stronger. So a vintage edt is probably as strong as a current edp; a vintage edc may be more intense than a current edt.

    cacio

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    Thank you both for your replies - it was in line with the 93ml edt current refill so I am hoping that the juice is ok. Thank you for the reassurance. I am only familiar with the late 2000's Mitsouko, so I hope to make a new discovery.

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