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    Default Patou pour homme reissue

    Any new reactions yet? I'm very interested in hearing about this fragrance.

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    I bought it some days ago from ALZD (180€, 100ml) and like it a lot. Its rich, full of herbs, especially lavender, sage and estragon with a wonderful semi-oriental drydown that lasts for ages. But Im not sure, if its the good ole "Patou pour Homme", because by comparison with my (very) old bottle of "PpH", it smells totally different. The older juice has a sherry-like top note (because of its age, I think), a very strong, peppery heart and a great leathery/oriental drydown. The newer is much, much lighter and rather an aromatic fougre, than an oriental one.
    At first I thougt its way to different from what I used to know as "Patou pour Homme", but after some full wearings, Im sure its there - sort of incorporated in the background.
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    I'm currently being teased mercilessly by a sample of this which I can't evaluate properly due to still being in the olfactory recovery phase of a dratted cold

    However I can say it smells nothing like the vintage sample I have (which I'm pretty sure was past it's best anyway). In fact, it smells a bit like VC&A Tsar. This may be way off-beam however!

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    My bottle hasn't arrived yet but I already know from the samples I had and used that for me it's a winner.
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    I ordered a SAMPLE from First In Fragrance rather than the whole bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniffman View Post
    I ordered a SAMPLE from First In Fragrance rather than the whole bottle.
    Seems reasonable. I was all crazy about reissued Havana, and while I sampled it, I sampled too shortly and made the decision to buy all too quickly. Patou the myth? My desire to smell it, my ecstatical anticipation has run dry over the years.

    I'd like to know - how much did it cost "back then"? Also 180 €/240 $? Was it that expensive? If not...I wouldn't buy it these days, just to make some "Hritage Collection" snobs (=the people who sell) even richer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristram View Post

    I'd like to know - how much did it cost "back then"? Also 180 €/240 $? Was it that expensive? If not...I wouldn't buy it these days, just to make some "Hritage Collection" snobs even richer.
    It was $90 for 3oz. 90ml brand new. Remember it as if it were yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    It was $90 for 3oz. 90ml brand new. Remember it as if it were yesterday.
    Without knowing the prices "back then" I suspect that 90 $ were a lot of money for a "cologne"; also in comparison to other brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    It was $90 for 3oz. 90ml brand new. Remember it as if it were yesterday.
    In today's money, the cost would be about $150, I suspect. Great recall, Hednic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marais View Post

    In fact, it smells a bit like VC&A Tsar. This may be way off-beam however!
    Shoot -- I hope so!

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    Just testing this one again as my nose recovers painfully slowly. Still getting the Tsar similarity, which I think is mainly the strong lavender/patch. But now Patou redux is greener and seems more powdery, with a more apparent leathery quality (along the refined lines of Vie de Chateau rather than Aramis). Very good so far but I'm waiting a few more days yet. I am finding this gradual unveiling quite enjoyable. It compensates a bit for the awful anosmic days.

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    In the late 80s (actually... it may have been the early 90s), the 120ml EDT refill bottle cost 43.50 at Selfridges.

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    Just received a sample of it and tried only once. So my mind can change later after several tries. My first impression was that it is as faithful to original as it can considering some of the original ingredients are not even available anymore, and some have been replaced with cheaper ones. The smell is pleasant though, but the flowery portion of it is stronger than in the vintage one also to my nose a bit more feminine, and that's why i stick with the vintage one and won't purchase the current incarnation.

    This hasn't been created by the nose Jean Kerleo by the way. Kerleo has been consulted though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by df91 View Post
    My first impression was that it is as faithful to original as it can considering some of the original ingredients are not even available anymore, and some have been replaced with cheaper ones.
    Pretty close to how I felt when I tried the samples i was given.
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    We need to hear from "bokaba." He started the whole campaign to reissue PPH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckW View Post
    In today's money, the cost would be about $150, I suspect. Great recall, Hednic.
    $255.75 according to the BLS

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    Has anyone else picked this up yet? I'm curious to know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maricle View Post
    $255.75 according to the BLS

    So I was off a little...lol!
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    I was at the Jean Patou flagship store at rue Castiglione a couple of days ago. I had a decant with vintage juice with me to compare to the new bottles.

    I let the sales woman smell my decant (she immediately sprayed her wrist - how often does THAT happen..?) and she said: "No, not possible, cant be the same scent - are you sure?" I was completely sure, I had decanted it myself from my NIB vintage Patou pour Homme, and my decant also smelled exactly like a sample from another source.

    Anyway - after smelling her hand the sales woman said with a loud voice "Thomas, can you come down here? To smell some vintage Patou pour Homme?".

    Down the stairs came then Thomas Fontaine, the parfumer of the new PPH, and he smelled my decant and said "Yes, it is clearly the real stuff, but it has turned - at least the patchouli." There was also another note in my decant that he doomed as turned, but I dont remember which one.

    Anyway - to me my decant doesnt smell off at all, but bear in mind I havent tried it when it was new. Me and Thomas then talked about the differencies and he was clear that they did their best to recreate the old PPH, with the exceptions of ingredients that no longer exist. And the longer I had both incarnations on my hands the more similar they seemed.

    Now Ill try to explain and compare my emotions when I smelled the two together. I often "see" colour and material when I smell a fragrance, and if my old PPH is black leather with brown undertones the new one is very dark grey tweed with blue or green undertones. The new one smells more modern but still very classy, and who knows how much the differencies depends on aging?

    I will try them more side-by-side someday (Thomas gave me a generous sample) and try to say something more.

    PS: I also tried the new Chaldee and that one was way more similar to my vintage (90:s) bottle.
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    Thanks Pelle!

    Would you say the new one is full bottle worthy considering the price? Also, would you recommend a blind buy for someone that likes the original but is not too hung up on the new version being a carbon copy of the old version? Just trying to figure out if I should blind buy as I live in the USA with no less economical way to test than to simply blind buy.

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    I wonder would it make sense to layer them? Old vintage stuff at first then layer the new one on the top. Or vice versa.
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    I tried this again today, on one arm, with Vie de Chateau on t'other. I found them quite close, particularly early on; bright, green, velvety, and suede leathery (they do share a bundle of notes). Patou redux diverges in the drydown, becoming a bit darker, with rose, along with a touch of frankincense, becoming more apparent. It really is lovely and I can't see anyone disliking it much (if he likes 'the classics').

    It is very different to my vintage sample, much lighter and less 80s bombastic, but as I said before I think I got a badly-aged sample.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelle View Post
    NIB vintage Patou pour Homme

    "Yes, it is clearly the real stuff, but it has turned - at least the patchouli." There was also another note in my decant that he doomed as turned, but I dont remember which one.
    It would be nice to know what the shelf life is actually expected to be with fragrances stored in box. Sorry to hear that yours has gone off, but if it still smells good to you, then it doesn't need to smell as originally intended.

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    Well pelle, you got it directly from the horse's mouth or horse's "nose." You can't get that information any more authoritatively than from Thomas Fontaine !
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelle View Post
    Now Ill try to explain and compare my emotions when I smelled the two together. I often "see" colour and material when I smell a fragrance, and if my old PPH is black leather with brown undertones the new one is very dark grey tweed with blue or green undertones. The new one smells more modern but still very classy, and who knows how much the differencies depends on aging?

    I will try them more side-by-side someday (Thomas gave me a generous sample) and try to say something more.
    Thanks Pelle for sharing your thoughts. I know you didn't mention it in your post, but did you happen to smell the re-issued
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    Pelle's experience is telling...
    I suspect his vintage PPH sample is similar to most of the other old juice still around.
    In my experience, PPH changes significantly as it ages.
    It loses its brightness, which may be why his mental imagery is of "black leather with brown undertones".
    I expect that the new juice will be more faithful to fresh PPH of the eighties than the old stuff still available... let's hope!

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    I own what I suspect is a "newer" vintage bottle. It is lovely stuff. When it first arrived, a year or so ago, I wore it to the office, and a sharp woman I work with said "oh, Youth Dew." Since then I have to confess - she's kind of right about that.

    So, my question to anyone who's sniffed the new version: do you get the "Youth Dew" effect?

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    I personally don't get the "Youth Dew" effect you speak of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Thanks Pelle for sharing your thoughts. I know you didn't mention it in your post, but did you happen to smell the re-issued
    Eau de Patou in the series? (398)
    I tried it very briefly on paper in the store, and thae new one clearly was Eau de Patou, maybe a little sharper than my vintage bottle. I only smelled the first minutes though, and just on paper.
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    The new PPH is nothing like the original regardless of what Mr Fontaine has to say..I had bottles from 2000-2001 which did not turn.
    I like the new PPH a lot however, as a PPH reissue, it is a major fail for me. "The triumphant return of the classic.." is misleading BS if you ask me. For instance, the original is rich in bourbon vetiver - is this material now restricted as well or did they simply forget about it?

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