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    Oh, and one more thing (or three) - Thomas also said that there will be more fragranses reissued. I think he mentioned three and the only one I remember was Vacanses because its one on my WL that I just have i tiny sample of... Sorry for not remembering all, I was a bit overwhelmed at the moment (I just stepped out from JAR minutes before I got in to Patou boutique...).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelle View Post
    Oh, and one more thing (or three) - Thomas also said that there will be more fragranses reissued. I think he mentioned three and the only one I remember was Vacanses because its one on my WL that I just have i tiny sample of... Sorry for not remembering all, I was a bit overwhelmed at the moment (I just stepped out from JAR minutes before I got in to Patou boutique...).
    Thanks for all the info, sounds like you had a good day! I look forward to trying the new ones.
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    it is not the same, radically changed, IMO...just a rip off flanker, IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelle View Post
    I tried it very briefly on paper in the store, and the new one clearly was Eau de Patou, maybe a little sharper than my vintage bottle. I only smelled the first minutes though, and just on paper.
    Interesting you should say that. I got the same feeling of it being a bit sharper.
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    It's been a couple of weeks. Has anyone else gotten to wear this much who's developed more of an opinion?

    The original is a favorite so I'm tempted by this one.
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    It smells similar to the original but obviously reformulated. It lacks the richness/depth of the original formulation (like most reformulations of '80 scents) but I would have recognized this as PPH if someone was wearing it.

    I would get in on a split (I did) if you're worried about investing in a whole bottle.

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    Last week I got sample of the current formulation, it was love from first sniff and I ordered full bottle right away!
    BTW, never smelled the original formulation.
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    It has been a while since my bottle has arrived and am very happy despite the differences from the original. (712)
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    Where to get this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maricle View Post
    $255.75 according to the BLS
    So as i bought from an U.S. seller a 90 ML full bottle of vintage Patou pour homme for 310 USD about an year ago, it wasn't a bad deal, after all.
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    where to buy it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scentologist View Post
    Where to get this?
    Quote Originally Posted by fhayat View Post
    where to buy it?
    First in Fragrance and Essenza Nobile in Germany both have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    First in Fragrance and Essenza Nobile in Germany both have it.
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    Woe pelle - how exciting that you actually got to speak to the perfumer of the scent one-on-one.

    I love my bottle of vintage Patou Pour Homme, so for now I'm good.

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    I own what I suspect is a "newer" vintage bottle. It is lovely stuff. When it first arrived, a year or so ago, I wore it to the office, and a sharp woman I work with said "oh, Youth Dew." Since then I have to confess - she's kind of right about that.

    So, my question to anyone who's sniffed the new version: do you get the "Youth Dew" effect?
    Interesting. I think I might be able to conjure up what she means...I love YD. But, for me, YD, is all about amber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmarino67 View Post
    It smells similar to the original but obviously reformulated. It lacks the richness/depth of the original formulation (like most reformulations of '80 scents) but I would have recognized this as PPH if someone was wearing it.
    Exactly! This is not the same rich old school powerhouse. It is like 80% strength. Nice, but not the same by any standard.

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    I wonder if the production will be high enough to allow for discounting over time. If it could come down to about $100~$130 for 3oz, that would be pretty sweet. I think I'll stay away from sampling any vintage, as I don't want to ruin the new one for my nose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cytherian View Post
    I wonder if the production will be high enough to allow for discounting over time. If it could come down to about $100~$130 for 3oz, that would be pretty sweet. I think I'll stay away from sampling any vintage, as I don't want to ruin the new one for my nose.
    We share a similar plan. I'd love this and Creed 1849. But I have my limits financially. I have my doubts that either one will come down into my range. First world problem, for sure.
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    I've heard the PPH aftershave is still a good alternative to the vintage cologne, considering the significant difference in price.

    Is it possible that the PPH aftershave is at least as good or better than PPH reformulated?

    Obviously, there would be longevity issues with the aftershave, but you can easily make small atomizers for reapplication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pelle View Post
    I was at the Jean Patou flagship store at rue Castiglione a couple of days ago. I had a decant with vintage juice with me to compare to the new bottles.

    I let the sales woman smell my decant (she immediately sprayed her wrist - how often does THAT happen..?) and she said: "No, not possible, cant be the same scent - are you sure?" I was completely sure, I had decanted it myself from my NIB vintage Patou pour Homme, and my decant also smelled exactly like a sample from another source.

    Anyway - after smelling her hand the sales woman said with a loud voice "Thomas, can you come down here? To smell some vintage Patou pour Homme?".

    Down the stairs came then Thomas Fontaine, the parfumer of the new PPH, and he smelled my decant and said "Yes, it is clearly the real stuff, but it has turned - at least the patchouli." There was also another note in my decant that he doomed as turned, but I dont remember which one.

    Anyway - to me my decant doesnt smell off at all, but bear in mind I havent tried it when it was new. Me and Thomas then talked about the differencies and he was clear that they did their best to recreate the old PPH, with the exceptions of ingredients that no longer exist. And the longer I had both incarnations on my hands the more similar they seemed.

    Now Ill try to explain and compare my emotions when I smelled the two together. I often "see" colour and material when I smell a fragrance, and if my old PPH is black leather with brown undertones the new one is very dark grey tweed with blue or green undertones. The new one smells more modern but still very classy, and who knows how much the differencies depends on aging?

    I will try them more side-by-side someday (Thomas gave me a generous sample) and try to say something more.

    PS: I also tried the new Chaldee and that one was way more similar to my vintage (90:s) bottle.
    I am sorry to have to say this, but I am really sceptical now about the talent of Thomas Fontaine as a..... ( trained and qualified ?? ) nose. It is a well known fact that patchouli oil actually improves with age. I have a good relationship to some of the noses within the perfume industry close by in Grasse and I have never heard of a perfumer commenting that patchouli has turned/ gone off !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by david View Post
    I am sorry to have to say this, but I am really sceptical now about the talent of Thomas Fontaine as a..... ( trained and qualified ?? ) nose. It is a well known fact that patchouli oil actually improves with age. I have good relationship to some of the noses within the perfume industry close by in Grasse and I have never heard of a perfumer commenting that patchouli has turned/ gone off !!!
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    I hate to ask this, but I will...are there any current scents that I can use as a base of comparison for the new Patou PH reissue?

    I'm thinking it's along the lines of PDN New York or Creed BDP...Am I way off? If so, what is an at least similar scent? I just need to wrap my head around what it may smell like.
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    I have been following this release and subsequent threads with vigor!

    Like Chuck, I haven't had the opportunity to have experienced the vintage, or wrapped my mind around the fragrance. I'm surely getting the feeling of it being on "the tip of my nose", but it also seems to be totally unique in itself, thus incomparable to others.

    Another reason why I'm interested in this release, is for it's possible effects on the industry, with all of the regulations of recent years.

    With Patou being such a landmark scent for connoisseurs, I'm sure many have their eyes on the reactions and results of this release to see if they could do this on their own end, in either re-releasing discontinued scents, or as a blueprint to reformulating classics. For example, two houses iMHO that have successfully reissued/reformulated classics are Chanel & Guerlain. Les Exclusifs are enjoying praise, while many have noted a return to form for fragrances such as Mitsouko.

    Long story short, this release is intriguing to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckW View Post
    I hate to ask this, but I will...are there any current scents that I can use as a base of comparison for the new Patou PH reissue?

    I'm thinking it's along the lines of PDN New York or Creed BDP...Am I way off? If so, what is an at least similar scent? I just need to wrap my head around what it may smell like.
    Imho, the new PPH is more of a floral oriental closer to, say, Nino Cerruti PH (1979) rather than NY or BdP. A very nice scent, I'm tempted to buy FB but personally would never recognize it as PPH. J. Kerleo's 2011 remake for example is still easily recognizable as PPH despite the fact there are some things missing in it..in the new one however, the PPH signature accord is gone..to my nose, anyway..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arij View Post
    ...With Patou being such a landmark scent for connoisseurs...
    It isn't for me, and nobody has ever made any claim about it that makes it sound special, to my knowledge. it's a well-behaved "80s power" scent, but I can't remember ever thinking that I'd rather wear it than another one I have that is similar but more interesting. I think this is a situation where mythic status somehow developed over the course of years, with the Emperor wearing less and less clothing over that time period. if you've got vintage Bijan for Men, for example, what are you going to get from PPH that is so much "better?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedRaider430 View Post
    I've heard the PPH aftershave is still a good alternative to the vintage cologne, considering the significant difference in price.

    Is it possible that the PPH aftershave is at least as good or better than PPH reformulated?

    Obviously, there would be longevity issues with the aftershave, but you can easily make small atomizers for reapplication.
    Hi Red,
    I am one of a few PpH fans who actually prefer the aftershave. Why ?.....the edt is wonderful stuff, but incredibly rich and heavy. Beautiful to smell from the bottle, but hard to wear. I have the same problem with other scents of this genre such as Lancetti Uomo. Beautiful, but heavy. I also have the same problem with Yatagan. So I find the after shave a fantastic alternative.
    Tonight I tested a single spray, (by the way the after shave also comes as 90ml atomizer, as well as in splash format).
    My single spray on a test strip is now 4 hours old and still very "smellable", with plenty of sillage when I waft the strip.
    The after shave is still incredibly rich and complex. I would personally describe vintage PpH as the best mens floral ever created - and it carries Patou's characteristic seal of highest quality ingredients. The perfect balance of woods and florals with no accord dominating makes Patou pour Homme the masterpiece that it is.
    I don't wear PpH very often, because of it's rarity and "specialness", but after tonights rekindling I would really suggest going for the after shave. You won't be disappointed. Just make sure you find a seller who has it in it's original sealed box.
    I am willing and open minded enough to give the reissue a fair chance, ( I should be getting a sample soon), but I think to get the original formula PpH in after shave form is a very good option.
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    Well, went back to Bergdorf's Mens Store again this past week, and there is no sign of a return of the PPH in the US. At least, not at this store where it was supposedly going to be sold. I doubt if it is coming to Bergdorf's at all, certainly not for the foreseeable future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Frances View Post
    Well, went back to Bergdorf's Mens Store again this past week, and there is no sign of a return of the PPH in the US. At least, not at this store where it was supposedly going to be sold. I doubt if it is coming to Bergdorf's at all, certainly not for the foreseeable future.
    Had no sales rep there heard anything about its arrival either?
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    Not a word; silent as the grave. I don't think they are going to get it anytime soon; if ever. I may not ask again, they think I am a bit nuts. It's funny how the staff at such a place doesn't know much about the products they carry; or the word on the street about what goes on in this business. One might wonder whether they care at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Frances View Post
    I may not ask again, they think I am a bit nuts. It's funny how the staff at such a place doesn't know much about the products they carry; or the word on the street about what goes on in this business. One might wonder whether they care at all.
    LOL! I hear you. I agree with you. It is somewhat strange about their lack of awareness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    LOL! I hear you. I agree with you. It is somewhat strange about their lack of awareness.
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    Yup, it is ridiculous how most sales person's in the fragrance industry dont know a damn thing about the fragrances they sell .. Half of them dont even know what a reformulation is.. I wanted to work at the counter so bad but never get hired, Idk if it has to do with the fact that I am a 20 year old male and not a 45+ year old women but I know one thing I know a hell of a lot more about fragrance than them..

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