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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    This is something I think we will be fine with

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    A relative of mine is 73yrs old and abbot smoker and fragrance wearer for all his life since teenager and healthier then a price BREED bull looking down the hill at the heifers. I worry more about looking both ways when crossing street, then wearing well made quality frags that irregardless of natural products (yes better ..I know) or synthetic have to be created in labs to make useable to us...I would tend to worry more about my inner self more for eventually outer self will go from order to disorder through age; regardless We can't avoid thermo dynamic laws... Empirical evidence dictate that you will most likely perish from other cause then perfume .....peace and God Bless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    I have noticed with all the years of fragrance use that when I get angry my skin starts to turn green, I just have to keep my emotional state in check to be ok.
    LOL, didn't know you were Hulk deep inside!


    Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?
    The only adverse effect I'm worried about is the impact of this hobby on my wallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Ruskin View Post
    In the 30 years I worked as a Perfumer I never met anyone who had any negative reaction to the Perfumery materials were were using; and for most of the time we were handling Fragrances at 100.0% concentration (not diluted in Alcohol). Another Perfumer I know said that once he spilled neat Citral on his hands, and where it had touched his skin, it went a bit red. That's all. On the other hand, I have known several people develop a very nasty reaction to various detergent and cleaning agents, as they are so good at removing the oils that naturally moisturise skin.
    Tristram you are entitled to your "beliefs", but unless they can be backed up with scientific evidence, I for one discard them.
    Hey David-thanks so much for taking the time to chime in on this and sharing your experiences.....it's great to get an experienced perfumers perspective!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hunter View Post
    I have noticed with all the years of fragrance use that when I get angry my skin starts to turn green, I just have to keep my emotional state in check to be ok.
    lmao-touche JH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjg3839 View Post
    If the fragrances won't kill ya, the foods will.
    No doubt, I'd be laughing if it wasn't true

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    Quote Originally Posted by remik View Post
    The only adverse effect I'm worried about is the impact of this hobby on my wallet.
    Lol, Tru dat brotha!

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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    The risk of getting into a car accident is a lot higher. Fragrance-related risk is insignificant by comparison. Some people believe IFRA is a tool for the rich aromachemical giants to push their synthetic stuff. But I do appreciate the positive impact of these restrictions on preservation of rare and endangered species.
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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    I don't. I do, however, worry about the next adverse impact of IFRA on perfumery.
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    So, everyone seems focused on the effects it may have on the skin. No one is concerned about the constant inhalation?

    I also hear a lot of people saying that they have been wearing fragrance for X years with no ill effects. That is helpful, but it is just anecdotal - my grandfather smoked for 50 years, but that doesn't quite prove cigarettes are safe.

    But overall, I'm thinking being married with kids is probably far worse for my health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
    So, everyone seems focused on the effects it may have on the skin. No one is concerned about the constant inhalation?
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    A couple of people mention it, but the OP was about skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbz View Post
    I had a weird thought the other day….I used to work a production job when I was younger and I had my hands in a couple different cleaning agents for the better part of the day over the course of a couple years. I used a damp towel to apply said cleaning/polishing agents and was not offered any kind of glove or hand protection until much later on when it was found out that one of these liquids which was initially deemed safe, did in fact have some potentially hazardous effects!

    I’m a young looking guy for my age,(38)but I look down at my hands and can’t believe how old and damaged they look…

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    The skin is your first line (innate) natural defense. Fragrance won't cross the skin barrier. Permeation is known as the transcellular pathway. A drug must cross the lipophilic membrane of each cell, then the hydrophilic cellular contents containing keratin, and then the phospholipid bilayer of the cell one more time. This series of steps is repeated numerous times to traverse the full thickness of the stratum corneum. Fragrances are not constituted in a vehicle with these properties and therefore will not traverse the layers of skin. Enjoy your fragrances!
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    Amen to that, brother.

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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    Although I tend to believe that most fragrance chemicals in reasonable doses will do little harm, the statement that these chemicals cannot go though the skin is much too sweeping. Lots of chemicals go through the skin, and some pass easily, even though most will be degraded and destroyed by metabolic activities of the body.

    Considering the wide range of aromachemicals and all of the other non-aromatic ingredients used in fragrances, I'd expect a lot of variability. Transdermal absorption varies by chemical and maybe even 'by people' but the nicotine patch works for a reason... the reason is because nicotine goes though the skin pretty easily. There are drugs that should not even be handled by women or men, and are specifically labelled that way.

    So it's pretty well established that chemicals do go through the skin, to a greater or lesser degree. But what happens after that is matter of the body's ability to deal with it. BTW, I find the latest perfume industry restrictions on citrus oils and many other commonly consumed oils really bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjg3839 View Post
    If the fragrances won't kill ya, the foods will.
    haha.... +1
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    Name five chemicals used in Perfumery that easily pass through the skin. Nicotine patches, and any other type of patch designed to allow drugs to pass through the skin work because there are a few chemicals which pass through skin, and allow others to pass with them. None of these are used in Perfumery, or indeed in the Cosmetic industry.

    Why do you find the IFRA restrictions on Citrus Oils bizarre? There is scientific evidence that certain chemicals commonly found in Citrus oils (e.g. Berbaptenes) can cause photosensitivity. Why is it that you are happy to accept hearsay and rumour, but find scientific evidence "bizarre"?

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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    Well if you're concern is about fragrance then how about antiperspirant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    Is that why you have a deformed claw-hand as your avatar?
    Lmao!!! That hadn't crossed my mind at all, but good catch! No thankfully my ugly hands aren't blue or have a mouth...got a hard enough time feeding just my one mouth

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougczar View Post
    So, everyone seems focused on the effects it may have on the skin. No one is concerned about the constant inhalation?

    I also hear a lot of people saying that they have been wearing fragrance for X years with no ill effects. That is helpful, but it is just anecdotal - my grandfather smoked for 50 years, but that doesn't quite prove cigarettes are safe.

    But overall, I'm thinking being married with kids is probably far worse for my health.

    Good point Doug, that part of spraying fragrance didn't enter into my mind...more good points to ponder! So since I'm not married and have no kids, I should be just fine then...good to know!!!lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreshSmell View Post
    Well if you're concern is about fragrance then how about antiperspirant?

    Another great point! I have heard some very bad things about anti-perspirants, which I'm sure pose more of a health threat than fragrance.

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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    In response to the question: "Name five chemicals used in Perfumery that easily pass through the skin" I can't.

    However, I suspect there are many hundreds, possibly thousands, of different chemicals that are used in perfumery. I would imagine that among that great variety of chemicals there are some that might easily pass through the skin, and many more that might pass in smaller amounts. I doubt that I would say "None of these are used in Perfumery, or indeed in the Cosmetic industry." Unless you are really prepared to go down the list, that's kind of tall claim, isn't it?

    In response to the question "Why do you find the IFRA restrictions on Citrus Oils bizarre? There is scientific evidence that certain chemicals commonly found in Citrus oils (e.g. Berbaptenes) can cause photosensitivity." Al I can say is that no one is proposing to ban the citrus fruits, which must contain all of those oils in far greater abundance, and many of those same oils also are in cleaning products, etc. It just seems kind of funny to go after the perfume, when the peel is probably worse.

    In response to the question "Why is it that you are happy to accept hearsay and rumour, but find scientific evidence "bizarre"? I will respectfully ask "what hearsay and rumour did I accept, and what scientific evidence did I find bizarre?"

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    Citrus fruits contain chemicals that cause photsensitisation , are potential allergens, skin sensitisers, and have been classified as environmental pollutants. Citrus oils are widely used in all types of Perfumery. You tell me why they haven't been banned. Because the Citrus industry would collapse if they were; and because, it is right to assume that people are intelligent enough to take their own precautions.

    Why would you imagine that there would be chemicals, used in Perfumery, that would easily pass through skin when you have no evidence for it, and cannot name any. Indeed, can you name any chemicals that pass through skin; because I can. And none of them are used in Perfumery. It might be true, that amongst the thousands that one or two can pass through. It might be true that there is radium in Cheerios, but until I see proof of it I will carry on eating them. You are relying on hearsay.
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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    No. I will grow old and die anyway. Fragrances are not likely to speeden this process in any meaningful way,

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    I've thought about it before. But honestly, i just quit smoking cigarettes a bit over 4 months ago. 1 pack a day for 20 years. Perfume can't POSSIBLY be worse than that!

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    I've never thought about it before.

    Probably not going to think about it again.

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    Default Re: Anyone ever worry about possible adverse effects from fragrance on your skin over many years?

    I tested different essential oils on my skin and I got a rash. I am not prone to allergies, so you might as well assume that this hobby might have an health impact in the long range.

    On the other hand, I always had in mind cancer incidence among chemists is higher than in the average population due to the fact they are exposed to chemicals the general population is not exposed too...

    So I guess if things get awry, my bottles will be either sold or given away to friends, acquaintances, relatives, etc. before I die.

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    Honestly, if we do end up with adverse effects from chemical reactions, it's more likely to come from food preservatives and plant fertilizers, than from fragrance chemicals.

    I'd worry less about your cologne you slap on your skin, and more about washing that bag of apples you bought from your local market, under a sink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aphexacid View Post
    I've thought about it before. But honestly, i just quit smoking cigarettes a bit over 4 months ago. 1 pack a day for 20 years. Perfume can't POSSIBLY be worse than that!
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    Apart from the fear of skin reaction, what about your nasal passage? I seem to have developed allergies I've never had.

    I also have a cousin who knows a fragrance company, she said some of their employees got cancer, but I didn't ask what kind of cancer. She told me to be careful.

    I think anything too much can never be good. So I don't wear cologne everyday now. About 5 times a week.
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    Lots of people get cancer.

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    I worked in a Perfumery company for thirty years and nobody I knew got cancer. I'm sure wearing fragrance for only 70.0% of the time will make a huge difference.

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    I think there is a limit as to how much benzoin can be put into a fragrance.

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