Slumberhouse Discussion

[naylor]

Did anyone else catch the recent mention of Pear + Olive on Josh's twitter? He says the current rotation of fragrances will be available in the new bottles, starting in about 4-5 weeks (around the start of Spring). With that, Pear + Olive will revert back to the original EDP formula, and will be renamed "Minne."

[deadidol]

Did anyone else catch the recent mention of Pear + Olive on Josh's twitter? He says the current rotation of fragrances will be available in the new bottles, starting in about 4-5 weeks (around the start of Spring). With that, Pear + Olive will revert back to the original EDP formula, and will be renamed "Minne."

Although I didn't catch it, this is indeed happening. The name "Pear + Olive" has always stood out as too descriptive from the rest of the line, and as the (relatively) abstract naming minimize imposed narratives (allowing the wearer to invest the scent with their own interpretation), it was decided to switch this one over. Now, the big question is, how do we pronounce it?

[juanderer]

It's HERE!!!! My Zahd was just delivered. Squeeee!!!

Congrats! I have to wait another day - had it delivered at work and though there were people working yesterday, the front door was closed so it wasn't received. I requested the post office to redeliver tomorrow.

Has anyone tried Mare? I keep going into a shop that carries Slumberhouse and sampling it about once a month. It's green and smells like dill pickles to me. I love it but not sure I want to smell like pickles... Opinions please!

Although I don't get pickles, I can see why someone would get that association.

Always wanted to try Mare as I'm a huge fan of vetiver. However, everything I had read steered me away from buying blindly.

I bought it blindly from the initial limited run he did back in June (before it was made available on the SH website) and was blown away by it. I love the weirdness and the unique take on violet and vetiver. That said, I only wear it every once in a while - probably four times, altogether, so far.

I own Mare and love it. I get a melony-cucumber (pre-pickle) thing from it, with an aquatic touch. Occasionally I pick up on a vegetal aspect. Sometimes it reminds me of a freshwater pond in the early morning in summer--placid, foggy, a little balmy…or a cool, natural pool of water you might stumble upon in a forest. It's peaceful and a little strange too, like a weird green nymph might also be lurking around the pond. It definitely possesses the Slumberhouse quirkiness.

This is very much what I get, too.

The name "Pear + Olive" has always stood out as too descriptive from the rest of the line, and as the (relatively) abstract naming minimize imposed narratives (allowing the wearer to invest the scent with their own interpretation), it was decided to switch this one over. Now, the big question is, how do we pronounce it?

Yep, and it makes me roll my eyes a little when people say it doesn't smell exactly like pear and olive, so I'm glad the explicitness will be taken out. P+O was actually the one SH offering that proved the most challenging for me to like and is the last bottle I've bought from the line. Now to wait and sea how the lower concentration changes the scent - I didn't get to smell the EdP version.

It's pronounced "mine-en-nae," obviously.

[deadidol]

It's pronounced "mine-en-nae," obviously.

You have to stress the 'ne' parts as 'inyea' though.

Minyea-en-inyea.

Done.

[deadidol]

I own Mare and love it. I get a melony-cucumber (pre-pickle) thing from it, with an aquatic touch. Occasionally I pick up on a vegetal aspect. Sometimes it reminds me of a freshwater pond in the early morning in summer--placid, foggy, a little balmy…or a cool, natural pool of water you might stumble upon in a forest. It's peaceful and a little strange too, like a weird green nymph might also be lurking around the pond. It definitely possesses the Slumberhouse quirkiness. I haven't smelled it in about a month, because I've been studying Vikt….and now Zahd. But like you, I had started with a sample of it and it kept haunting me and calling me back, and then one day the sample was empty, so I ordered a bottle. At the risk of extreme cheesiness, this is sort of what I picture when I smell Mare (bonus nymph included!)

I love this description of it! Honestly, I've had a hard time with this one -- I really get something too vegetal from it. It's largely vetiver and violet leaf, but as always, the materials are unorthodox and it's spun away from what we normally understand violet to be. My own concern is that there are several scents from the line that I really didn't enjoy at first (although I could appreciate them), but came to love them later.

[OctaVariuM]

Did anyone else catch the recent mention of Pear + Olive on Josh's twitter? He says the current rotation of fragrances will be available in the new bottles, starting in about 4-5 weeks (around the start of Spring). With that, Pear + Olive will revert back to the original EDP formula, and will be renamed "Minne."

It was me he replied to on Twitter :P. I already knew, but it was cool that I was tagged.

[deadidol]

Our own Persolaise did a nice write-up of the regular line right here: http://persolaise.blogspot.com/2014/...a-ore-and.html

[rynegne]

Kere sounds interesting. I think I had a sample of it at some point and passed it along. Anyone remember what it smells like? Also, were the samples like Kere and Iska ever sold by Slumberhouse or just samples of test fragrances...can't quite remember them being sold?

[james1051]

Our own Persolaise did a nice write-up of the regular line right here: http://persolaise.blogspot.com/2014/...a-ore-and.html

Is Sova still part of the regular line up?

[OctaVariuM]

Kere sounds interesting. I think I had a sample of it at some point and passed it along. Anyone remember what it smells like? Also, were the samples like Kere and Iska ever sold by Slumberhouse or just samples of test fragrances...can't quite remember them being sold?

Kere is a praline, caramel kind of scent, very sweet. I liked it a lot when I wore my little sample, but I can see why it never made a full on release really.

Is Sova still part of the regular line up?

No, it was discontinued due to the unavailability of materials, sadly. It remains to this day my favorite from him though.

[james1051]

I wore a sample of Sova last night. Good stuff, interesting.

[andreas2x]

Just out of curiosity , is there anyone outside of USA who order Zahd? Up until now i still haven't received a shipping notification.

[rouj]

No 100ml in this design I'm afraid.

Is Josh going to continue offering the 100ml in the old bottles then?

[deadidol]

Is Josh going to continue offering the 100ml in the old bottles then?

Possibly! He has some left, but I don't think there's an official 100ml option planned as of right now.

[rynegne]

Aside from the new Vikt, P+O or Zahd, I can't imagine going through any 100mls of Slumberhouse. My 50ml EdP's I think would already last 2 lifetimes...maybe more LOL.

[mikeperez23]

I wore a sample of Sova last night. Good stuff, interesting.

Still my favorite. Amazing scent. Sort of like a feeling or a place, rather than a fragrance.

[rouj]

Aside from the new Vikt, P+O or Zahd, I can't imagine going through any 100mls of Slumberhouse. My 50ml EdP's I think would already last 2 lifetimes...maybe more LOL.

Jeke I could go through easily, and according to Josh Norne gets better with age due to it's ingredients. More importantly, I'm concerned about continued availability.

[deadidol]

Aside from the new Vikt, P+O or Zahd, I can't imagine going through any 100mls of Slumberhouse. My 50ml EdP's I think would already last 2 lifetimes...maybe more LOL.

I have a friend who bought 200ml of Norne. He's going for a Hulk effect it seems.

[chili_willi]

Still my favorite. Amazing scent. Sort of like a feeling or a place, rather than a fragrance.

Sova is great and my favorite as well, and I will readily admit that I made a mistake by not buying a bottle of Norne on Black Friday. I hope Josh does it again this year.

[rynegne]

Totally. Same for me. Memories of my grandmother's farm in Northern Illinois during the fall months. Animals in the barn, hay, old wood, fires and leather goods hanging next to old rusted machinery.

Still my favorite. Amazing scent. Sort of like a feeling or a place, rather than a fragrance.

Lol deadidol. Your buddy probably smells like one of the guys on Axemen (lumberjack show.) That's a ton of juice. I understand people stocking up with limited availability or possible reworkings. Makes sense.

[juanderer]

I have to wait another day - had it delivered at work and though there were people working yesterday, the front door was closed so it wasn't received. I requested the post office to redeliver tomorrow.

I have my Zahd bottles in front of me.

A co-worker received it so he brought it to me and was like "you have a package from Slumberhouse - that sounds familiar. What is it? I've heard of it before." So I thought the only way he would've heard of it was from me receiving packages before... I had Vikt delivered here and probably something else before that. So I just left it at "it's a company that makes perfume."

Then, a colleague I share the office with asked me about it so I gave him a brief background on Zahd and on Slumberhouse. He asked if they had samples and I offered to bring him some... I just have to think of what to expose him to as he's been loyal to Curve since he was a teenager.

[rowan-]

Just out of curiosity , is there anyone outside of USA who order Zahd? Up until now i still haven't received a shipping notification.

Yes - still waiting patiently for my bottle and shipping notification, whichever comes first.

I believe there are also other folks overseas who haven't received theirs either.

[OctaVariuM]

Well both by Zahd and my Vikt arrived at home today. Gonna be a long week until I can wear them, but I'm distracting myself today with Ore.

[danieq]

I'm hoping and praying a bottle of Sova turns up. I'm half tempted to beg one of ya'll for a sample of Zahd, but since it can't be had, I probably better not. I really need to test the ones that are actually available1

[james1051]

I'm hoping and praying a bottle of Sova turns up. I'm half tempted to beg one of ya'll for a sample of Zahd, but since it can't be had, I probably better not. I really need to test the ones that are actually available1

ditto on the Sova. That stuff is gone. Why I grabbed a little extry of the Vikt, as it is done too.

[lpp]

Indiescents still have a little Vikt...it's on the website.

[noideawhatimsaying]

I'm hoping and praying a bottle of Sova turns up. I'm half tempted to beg one of ya'll for a sample of Zahd, but since it can't be had, I probably better not. I really need to test the ones that are actually available1

If you want a sample just PM me your address and I'll ship one out.

[lpp]

Just a polite reminder that we don't ask for or offer samples, etc., in discussion threads (other than in the designated 'give-away" threads for offering) as it's considered to be Trading & sets a bad example to new members, some of whom 'try it on' as soon as they join up.
There's a Marketplace 'Wanted' section.
http://www.basenotes.net/forums/31-Fragrances-Wanted

[danieq]

You're very kind notwhatimsaying, but I really think I'll end up jonesing for it so best to not try it and then pine away. That's the reason I posted my comment Lpp, not that I'm asking. More as a bit of humor. But I do thank you for the kind offer. Very generous.

[Wasatch]

A bunch of Slumberhouse samples came in today:

Flou (Extrait)
Grev
Jeke (Extrait)
Norne (Extrait)
Ore (Extrait)
Rume
Sana (Extrait)
Sova (Extrait)
Vikt

[james1051]

Lucked out big time today and found a bottle of Sova!

[danieq]

What!? where!?

[OctaVariuM]

Wearing my bottle of Vikt for the first time tonight...and I am very impressed and already love this stuff.

Okay, maybe I don't hate you guys.

EDIT: Adding onto this. This has been the first fragrance from Josh in a while that I've loved on first sniff. The original Zahd sample I got was that way, but before that it was Sova and the EDP of Ore. I immediately considered getting a second bottle, and this is just after one wearing. I can tell this stuff is addictive, and I really love the way the licorice/anise/fennel (whatever it is) plays with the incense and the REAL black agar and mysore sandalwood. This is really of extreme quality, and though I expect this in some ways of Josh, this is nearly on another level of sheer clarity of notes and blending from him. I love this stuff already.

[james1051]

Wearing my bottle of Vikt for the first time tonight...and I am very impressed and already love this stuff.

Okay, maybe I don't hate you guys.

EDIT: Adding onto this. This has been the first fragrance from Josh in a while that I've loved on first sniff. The original Zahd sample I got was that way, but before that it was Sova and the EDP of Ore. I immediately considered getting a second bottle, and this is just after one wearing. I can tell this stuff is addictive, and I really love the way the licorice/anise/fennel (whatever it is) plays with the incense and the REAL black agar and mysore sandalwood. This is really of extreme quality, and though I expect this in some ways of Josh, this is nearly on another level of sheer clarity of notes and blending from him. I love this stuff already.

Yup. My favorite scent of the winter.

[mikeperez23]

Lucked out big time today and found a bottle of Sova!

Fantastic!

[mikeperez23]

Wearing my bottle of Vikt for the first time tonight...and I am very impressed and already love this stuff.

Okay, maybe I don't hate you guys.

EDIT: Adding onto this. This has been the first fragrance from Josh in a while that I've loved on first sniff. The original Zahd sample I got was that way, but before that it was Sova and the EDP of Ore. I immediately considered getting a second bottle, and this is just after one wearing. I can tell this stuff is addictive, and I really love the way the licorice/anise/fennel (whatever it is) plays with the incense and the REAL black agar and mysore sandalwood. This is really of extreme quality, and though I expect this in some ways of Josh, this is nearly on another level of sheer clarity of notes and blending from him. I love this stuff already.

Wonderful to hear Octavarium. I liked it, from the sample I got recently, but it was not a **love**.

[danieq]

I'm hoping to sample Vikt shortly, your description makes it sound all the more tempting OctaVariuM!

[OctaVariuM]

I'm hoping to sample Vikt shortly, your description makes it sound all the more tempting OctaVariuM!

It really is very good. I've worn it a few times now (back to back days) and I've noticed that the incense in the dry down is really fantastic. The only
negative for me is the longevity, which lasts only about 4 or 5 hours on my skin before becoming a skin scent. It might improve if I dare to wear more than one spray, so I'll see how it goes in the future.

[rynegne]

Does anyone have the note breakdown of the newest Slumberhouse Vikt?

[deadidol]

Does anyone have the note breakdown of the newest Slumberhouse Vikt?

Well, briefly, it's anise, sweet fennel, ravensara, and toscanol for the licorice effect, then the main players are styrax, oud, sandalwood, and some different attars.

[rynegne]

Thanks deadidol. I was curious as to what notes differed from the older juice. The new Vikt is so much more mellow than the old juice. I'm guessing it was the addition of sandalwood and attars. I get a lot more licorice from the new Vikt. The old juice for me was more about the black oud and styrax with hints of anise much like a metallic resinous tree sap.

Well, briefly, it's anise, sweet fennel, ravensara, and toscanol for the licorice effect, then the main players are styrax, oud, sandalwood, and some different attars.

[Buysblind]

It really is very good. I've worn it a few times now (back to back days) and I've noticed that the incense in the dry down is really fantastic. The only
negative for me is the longevity, which lasts only about 4 or 5 hours on my skin before becoming a skin scent. It might improve if I dare to wear more than one spray, so I'll see how it goes in the future.

Glad to hear you like Vikt!

[rynegne]

I'm wearing Rume EdP today, it's such and interesting scent. It's been well over a year since I have last worn the Rume, so I figured I'd give my revised breakdown of the scent. The top of Rume is herbal, sweet-syrupy (resinous), sharp and slightly abrasive. Clove and Bay mingle with a deep and dark labdanum note which mellows into the heart, but rides the fragrance out. Clove moves up front and center in the middle of Rume along with Myrhh, labdanum retains its presence but in the back of the other notes. At this point Rume begins to smell a little bit like an ancient mulled fruit wine with medicinal herbs and continues to get spicier through the wear. As Rume gets spicy, it somehow gets lighter and lighter and slightly dusty. This gives Rume a potpourri-like feel that simply reminds me of Christmas days as a child. Over time, I still have not dropped this connection to Christmas via a distant fragrance memory. Rume is thought-evoking, rich and ancient and I still absolute adore it!

Side Note: The opening and development of Rume somewhat reminds me of Norma Kamali Incense. A dark picture, harsh opening lends way to a somewhat lighter interpretation of resins. Both are done totally different scents, but totally develop similarly IMO.

[noideawhatimsaying]

At this point Rume begins to smell a little bit like an ancient mulled fruit wine with medicinal herbs and continues to get spicier through the wear. As Rume gets spicy, it somehow gets lighter and lighter and slightly dusty.

Completely on point. It's festive, in a brooding way I think. A darker holiday scent. Not that what I just said makes sense, but hey.

I'm hoping for a gothic-incense fragrance, next.

[markc]

Completely on point. It's festive, in a brooding way I think. A darker holiday scent. Not that what I just said makes sense, but hey.

I'm hoping for a gothic-incense fragrance, next.

Avignon and Bois d'Encens are both in my Top 5, but I too would love a Slumberhouse take on this. I doubt strongly he would though as he usually goes the path less travelled


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[noideawhatimsaying]

Avignon and Bois d'Encens are both in my Top 5, but I too would love a Slumberhouse take on this. I doubt strongly he would though as he usually goes the path less travelled


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have you tried Messe de Minuit by Etro?

[danieq]

I'm trying Vikt today and finding it to have quite lot of movement. The first hour was thick sweet with the anise. Now it's moved to something that makes me think of solvent and creosote (creosote is the scent of rain here in the desert where I live, a welcome scent indeed.). Very resinous. But the whole time smells thick like molasses. I don't think I've encountered this aspect in a fragrance before now.

[noideawhatimsaying]

I'm trying Vikt today and finding it to have quite lot of movement. The first hour was thick sweet with the anise. Now it's moved to something that makes me think of solvent and creosote (creosote is the scent of rain here in the desert where I live, a welcome scent indeed.). Very resinous. But the whole time smells thick like molasses. I don't think I've encountered this aspect in a fragrance before now.

I don't get its praise. The licorice opening is nasty.

[socalwoman]

I don't get its praise. The licorice opening is nasty.

I appreciate your comment. I was just about to order the last bottle left on Parfum1.

[noideawhatimsaying]

I appreciate your comment. I was just about to order the last bottle left on Parfum1.

You're welcome. And I'm a huge fan of his scents, but it's just unwearable. It's medicinal black licorice, precisely. Anything else that people say about it is blind worship of his scents.

I mean, I'll be honest - I definitely love the Slumberhouse lineup, but in reality - Norne and Sova are the ONLY two that work for me. Jeke is absurdly smokey where it's overwhelming, Pear & Olive is interesting but that's about it. Sova was gorgeous, Norne is gorgeous. Ore is an attempt at chocolate that is done much better by other houses. His more "failed" experiments (Flou, Sana, Grev) are just too off the wall for me. Rume is fantastic, but EXTREMELY limited in where you can wear it. Etc, just feel there is a lot of blind worship that CAN make Josh's artistic expression lose focus as it delves into more odd things (eg: Vikt, Zahd, etc - good, but are they PHENOMENAL? I mean, wearable should be a standard).

[markc]

have you tried Messe de Minuit by Etro?

Yes, I own a bottle. It's a very weird, unique take and very Slumberhouse-like in my opinion. Good mention!


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[rowan-]

To each their own, really, but I think one has to try these scents to know what they're actually like.

I'm acquainted with the old Vikt EDP, and have to admit I was a little dismayed when I first heard about the liquorice in the new extrait version because I wasn't terribly keen on smelling like that. But I took the plunge anyway after doing a bit of homework, and guess what - it turned out to be one of the most comfortable, wearable scents on me.

[james1051]

I don't get its praise. The licorice opening is nasty.

Or awesome, depending.

[deadidol]

You're welcome. And I'm a huge fan of his scents, but it's just unwearable. It's medicinal black licorice, precisely. Anything else that people say about it is blind worship of his scents.

Thanks for putting us in place. I actually find it to be one of the best he's done (and I dislike quite a few), but at least now I know my liking it is invalid.

I'll throw it out as soon as I get home an eagerly await your instruction as to what I can like.

[noideawhatimsaying]

Thanks for putting us in place. I actually find it to be one of the best he's done (and I dislike quite a few), but at least now I know my liking it is invalid.

I'll throw it out as soon as I get home an eagerly await your instruction as to what I can like.

You can like Serge Lutens - consistently fantastic, in my eyes.

[lpp]

You can like Serge Lutens - consistently fantastic, in my eyes.

Presumably sans vetiver

Seriously - we all have different tastes but to say that something is 'nasty' because one doesn't enjoy a particular note is not particularly illuminating.
It's better to say 'I don't like the liquorice note, therefore this doesn't appeal to me' than to make a blind statement that 'It's nasty' - because it may well be 'nasty' to you - but it's really not universally nasty to everyone

[noideawhatimsaying]

Presumably sans vetiver

Seriously - we all have different tastes but to say that something is 'nasty' because one doesn't enjoy a particular note is not particularly illuminating.
It's better to say 'I don't like the liquorice note, therefore this doesn't appeal to me' than to make a blind statement that 'It's nasty' - because it may well be 'nasty' to you - but it's really not universally nasty to everyone

You're absolutely correct. I retract my original universal condescension and will leave my opinion of dissatisfaction with Vikt! And dislike of vetiver

[Redneck Perfumisto]

Presumably sans vetiver

Seriously - we all have different tastes but to say that something is 'nasty' because one doesn't enjoy a particular note is not particularly illuminating.
It's better to say 'I don't like the liquorice note, therefore this doesn't appeal to me' than to make a blind statement that 'It's nasty' - because it may well be 'nasty' to you - but it's really not universally nasty to everyone

I am glad I caught the very steep Yin/Yang of Slumberhouse at the beginning, when I got some of the first samples. One of the scents just blew me away as one of the most original and creative fragrances I'd ever smelled, but to me it was really borderline unwearable. Before I could even post on it, others were jumping in and wearing it and buying it, and some even seemed to think that particular fragrance was among the "tamer" scents in the samples! I immediately realized that I was something of a "Slumberhouse conservative", so I just told myself to wait for the scents that would inevitably land in my corner of the yard. In the meanwhile, a lot of noses I respected were getting on the train, in ways that made sense. As soon as people started calling out Zahd as accessible, approachable, etc., I knew it was going to be my thing.

Everybody toys with nasty because that's part of fragrance. Most of the things we love in fragrance are basically chemical defenses. On the pepper thing, I check out right above jalopeño, but my son does ghost peppers. I think the Slumberhouse scale is somewhat analogous to the Scoville scale. What surprises me is how most people are actually closer to the higher end of both of them, than I am. I have made a conscious effort to try hotter peppers and to wear challenging scents, but most people have left simply me in the dust on both of these things.

[rynegne]

If you'd like, go green. I'll be the proud recipient of your new Slumberhouse recycling program :-)

I'll throw it out as soon as I get home

On a serious note, I thought the new Vikt with the addition of licorice might possibly be off putting. However, I've found the new Vikt to be much smoother and more wearable than its EdP counterpart. The EdP I found to be much more metallic, sharp and abrasive to be honest. I loved the heavy dose of black oud which seems to be buried in the new blend and the overall longevity but that's it. I have found the new Vikt to be the most wearable work Josh's created to date. If it wasn't in such short run, I could see myself wearing it quite often. Different strokes for different folks...I didn't care for Zahd much at all (Seems like I'm the only lonely outcast.) Everyone's different, that's for sure...*I tried Leather Oud yesterday and wow...Yuck. But some people love it!

[juanderer]

I am not at all a fan of licorice, but Vikt extrait is one of my favorite fragrances of late. I find it to be extremely comforting.