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    Very interesting! It makes sense. If you sell 30ml, use the same bottle but add the marbles/beads to take up the space (so the bottle doesn't look partially used), simplifying the types of bottles used. Since the sprayer is likely a screw-top, at the very end you just dump out a few marbles and rub them on your fingers to get the remaining fragrance.

    As someone who was only recently made aware of Slumberhouse, my initial impression was that the bottles had a lumpy texture on the inside, creating this interesting look. I think I'd been looking at a bottle of Norne, which is quite dark, so it wasn't immediately apparent to me that the effect was due to glass marbles inside.

    But yeah, I can see how it would be a real PITA for a single person operation to sit around stuffing bottles with marbles (although I imagine he might have had some family members or "interns" help out with some simple but time consuming processes like this).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytherian View Post
    Since the sprayer is likely a screw-top, at the very end you just dump out a few marbles and rub them on your fingers to get the remaining fragrance.

    But yeah, I can see how it would be a real PITA for a single person operation to sit around stuffing bottles with marbles (although I imagine he might have had some family members or "interns" help out with some simple but time consuming processes like this).
    The old bottles were actually crimped, not screwed -- but the etching was an even more time consuming factor as that was all done by hand as well and had a huge margin of error involved. So this new redesign was long overdue, but the expense involved in a such an endeavor for indies is very challenging -- especially when you don't want to take on investors. This Zahd sale wasn't ideal in that it took a while, but it accomplished the goal which was to initiate the new design by front loading some of the initial investment and setting the ball in motion. Because of some complications with the fund raising technicalities (long story), it was a risk to do this as he only had two weeks to get the funds raised. Everyone involved was surprised when not only were the funds raised within the two week period, they were raised within 12 hours.

    And you'd think he's have more people involved in the process, but he really doesn't. By making the process more efficient, he can get back to what he does best -- producing new scents.
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    I'm curious how much "profit" he made on Zahd. 125 bottles * $150 = $18,750. How much do the ingredients typically cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    I'm curious how much "profit" he made on Zahd. 125 bottles * $150 = $18,750. How much do the ingredients typically cost?
    I don't think we need to speculate on any specifics, but I will say that some of the individual ingredients in Slumberhouse fragrances go for up to $20k per kilo. Zahd is full of some the most expensive and rare materials available (also, unavailable, in fact!). One of the (many) components in Zahd, for example, (pink lotus) sells for $837 for 4oz. That should give you a general sense of the value for money you're getting with these scents.

    If this was a line run solely for profit, none of these materials would be feasible. Fortunately it's not, so they are.
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    Why does it matter what he makes on this scent? I am certain he makes less than the big houses that keep raising prices for low(er) quality juice just to pay for advertising campaigns amd CEO bonuses and saleries. I simply can't begrudge an independant perfumer for putting food on his table, especially given the quality and uniqueness of his product.
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    Making fragrances is an extremely expensive undertaking. I'm doing so on a much smaller scale now and the expenses are very high. I would imagine that Josh is doing this as a profession as well, he has to make a living to stay comfortable obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akahina View Post
    Why does it matter what he makes on this scent? I am certain he makes less than the big houses that keep raising prices for low(er) quality juice just to pay for advertising campaigns amd CEO bonuses and saleries. I simply can't begrudge an independant perfumer for putting food on his table, especially given the quality and uniqueness of his product.
    100% agree. Especially with the part of the big companies reformulating to save $$$, which in my opinion is the primary reason the last decade has seen so many weak reformulations. I believe the IFRA is only secondary.



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    I don't care how much he makes, I was just curious what margins he's seeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    I don't care how much he makes, I was just curious what margins he's seeing.
    My bet is that they are very low. For a long time he was literally (and I can't stress this enough) losing money on Sova. The price increase helped him out I'm sure, and I was always in favor of that because I want to support Josh since he is such an awesome guy.
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    Plus, 'profit' is an extremely variable concept when the cost of bottles & new materials for future projects is considered.

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    Did anyone have to pick up their Zahd bottle at the post office? For some reason my tracking information says it is available for pick up today, but nothing is said abut it being out for delivery. I didn't miss it showing up or anything...kinda strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    I don't think we need to speculate on any specifics, but I will say that some of the individual ingredients in Slumberhouse fragrances go for up to $20k per kilo. Zahd is full of some the most expensive and rare materials available (also, unavailable, in fact!). One of the (many) components in Zahd, for example, (pink lotus) sells for $837 for 4oz. That should give you a general sense of the value for money you're getting with these scents.

    If this was a line run solely for profit, none of these materials would be feasible. Fortunately it's not, so they are.
    Josh will not be running Bill Gates and George Soros out of the market anytime soon, with his little $18,000 art project!!!

    In fact, I'm not sure if it's possible to do a large bronze statue for less than that - just on the cost of the metal. What's interesting to me is that the availability of perfume components allows people to use the highest-end of materials in projects that are much more "low-end". Even more crazily, it's actually easier. It's almost like being able to more easily use iridium and platinum for indie hub-cap art than for high-end jewelry. And yet, on the other end of perfumery (in the money dimension), we have highly trained artists forced to use goofy-cheap materials for market reasons, and who have to escape to niche projects, bespoke or moonlighting to do what Josh does. As a scholar of art, you have to find the whole thing fascinating as hell, I'm sure. Does the economics of fragrance art have any kind of analogy?

    Labor of love. If Josh actually wanted to make money, he'd get a cubicle day job like the rest of us. Become a Linux admin, or an expert in Hadoop clusters. Take his 18,000 and use it to dig up investors for an AI startup. Create a new programming language with one of his neologisms and then market support. Write the how-to book for O'Reilly.

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    Just got my bottle in. It's even MORE pleasing to me than the pictures I already saw posted. Congruent with idea and image of the house, I'm excited to see where he goes with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    Just got my bottle in. It's even MORE pleasing to me than the pictures I already saw posted. Congruent with idea and image of the house, I'm excited to see where he goes with it.
    Congratulations!

    I agree, that bottle is most awesome, and I can't wait to see one in real life. It's really nice to see a "house bottle" emerge and it's a huge step up, rather than "meh".
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    Thank you! Any hints as to what his next project will be? He should really sell his "failed" experiments to exisiting customers, too

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    Thank you! Any hints as to what his next project will be? He should really sell his "failed" experiments to exisiting customers, too
    deadidol is the person in the know, but I think the model of Zahd was a big success, both from an artistic and a marketing standpoint, so I think Josh would be missing a great thing if he didn't do some more of these sorts of limited editions, in addition to the normal house scents. JMO.
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    Agreed. Could we possibly see additional input from customers? Maybe he can survey and get opinions on what the next scent should be? Just an idea!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    In fact, I'm not sure if it's possible to do a large bronze statue for less than that - just on the cost of the metal. What's interesting to me is that the availability of perfume components allows people to use the highest-end of materials in projects that are much more "low-end". Even more crazily, it's actually easier. It's almost like being able to more easily use iridium and platinum for indie hub-cap art than for high-end jewelry. And yet, on the other end of perfumery (in the money dimension), we have highly trained artists forced to use goofy-cheap materials for market reasons, and who have to escape to niche projects, bespoke or moonlighting to do what Josh does. As a scholar of art, you have to find the whole thing fascinating as hell, I'm sure. Does the economics of fragrance art have any kind of analogy?
    I do find it fascinating -- and it's one of the main draws to the line, for me. I avoided perfume for close to a decade because I was under the false impression that all that was available were essentially mass-produced beauty products engineered with "function" in mind. To discover that there's space in perfumery for innovation of "form" in a manner that undermines and largely rethinks "function" was revelatory. As far as the paradox goes in which the trained professional is largely alienated from their work, whereas the untrained (and largely subversive) non-professional gains access to an expressivity that's kept from the former, well that speaks to something beyond perfumery itself, doesn't it? The word "industry" jumps to mind as part of the problem and is something that Marx and Engels might shed some light onto

    Fortunately, there's a real surge right now in guerrilla perfumery and forms of olfactive art that are performing necessarily subversive cultural functions, from spotlighting the boorish nature of commodification (the production of flankers, soulless woodyambers [TM], and laughably patronizing advertising—essentially spoon-fed mediocrity), to the abnegation of despotism (the pursuance of alternates to IFRA's tightening grip), and further elucidation of the line that exists between commercial product and more autonomous commodities (art, essentially). Such work is being performed by creatives that exist outside of the industry, but can also be found in organizations such as The Institute for Art and Olfaction as well as The Academy of Perfumery and Aromatics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    Thank you! Any hints as to what his next project will be? He should really sell his "failed" experiments to exisiting customers, too
    That would be a thought, wouldn't it! It's an interesting thing because I could understand how there may be (especially amongst his fans) the impression of a Midas touch at work, when that's really not the case. Zahd took two years to polish and perfect -- and that's apparent in the end result, which, objectively speaking, is probably the best thing he's produced. Even if the scent isn't to one's personal preference, the labor that went into the production of something this unique and thoughtful is undeniable. But he'd be the first to admit that there's a lot of trial and error involved in the perfecting process, and sometimes projects simply don't come together or they need to be set aside for some time (gestation) before moving on. What I'm trying to get at is that not all the experiments are good and certainly aren't worth putting out there as "b-sides" to the official releases. The development of a brand that not only raises the bar, but knocks the bar out of reach, takes some serious editing and perspective. I understand the appeal of wanting to sample the scraps -- largely to get a sense of what else is being cooked up -- but it's also important to keep in mind that when you're dealing with something this expressive, the production ebbs and flows, and the successful editing of such ebbs and flows is what allows a brand to build its credibility. One thing I can say with some certainty is that you'll probably never get what you want from this line, and subsequent releases will continue to challenge and redefine what's possible in perfumery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    One thing I can say with some certainty is that you'll probably never get what you want from this line, and subsequent releases will continue to challenge and redefine what's possible in perfumery.

    That's a very important point imo.

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    I'm definitely interested to see what new perfumes come out of Slumberhouse over the next few years and the general direction of the company. So far, I've tried most of what's come out from Slumberhouse over the last few years and it's very interesting to see how both Josh and Slumberhouse have evolved. I'm glad the creativity is still there along with the use of quality materials, that much has not been sacrificed. The only thing I have noticed that's different with new scents vs. the old is the jagged edge has been smoothed out so to speak. Newer releases are much more wearable and have definitely lost the abrasiveness of the old juices. Vikt is a good example of that. Although I prefer some of the old stuff over the new, I really do enjoy the fact that these scents are something that I can reach for on a daily basis. I could wear the new Vikt out and about or to a wedding and not have to think twice, if I was to wear my Rume Esprit de Parfum...I would have to be in the mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    I do find it fascinating -- and it's one of the main draws to the line, for me. I avoided perfume for close to a decade because I was under the false impression that all that was available were essentially mass-produced beauty products engineered with "function" in mind. To discover that there's space in perfumery for innovation of "form" in a manner that undermines and largely rethinks "function" was revelatory. As far as the paradox goes in which the trained professional is largely alienated from their work, whereas the untrained (and largely subversive) non-professional gains access to an expressivity that's kept from the former, well that speaks to something beyond perfumery itself, doesn't it? The word "industry" jumps to mind as part of the problem and is something that Marx and Engels might shed some light onto

    Fortunately, there's a real surge right now in guerrilla perfumery and forms of olfactive art that are performing necessarily subversive cultural functions, from spotlighting the boorish nature of commodification (the production of flankers, soulless woodyambers, and laughably patronizing advertising—essentially spoon-fed mediocrity), to the abnegation of despotism (the pursuance of alternates to IFRA's tightening grip), and further elucidation of the line that exists between commercial product and more autonomous commodities (art, essentially). Such work is being performed by creatives that exist outside of the industry, but can also be found in organizations such as The Institute for Art and Olfaction as well as The Academy of Perfumery and Aromatics.
    Awesome answer - thanks for that!

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    Hey guys :-( I like woody ambers, not of the soulless kind but let's not make this into a fragrance profiling thread! LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    Hey guys :-( I like woody ambers, not of the soulless kind but let's not make this into a fragrance profiling thread! LOL.
    Ha! I do too, but it's a tired genre — also an obvious, easy one. I'm largely borrowing the phrase from Alfarom who has referred to woodyamber (not to be confused with wood and amber scents) as the lazy fallback accord that you find in the base of 90% of mediocre mainstream releases — a blend of norlimbanol, vanillin, and iso-e that's become the go-to filler for mass produced swill. I don't mind it, but it's hardly innovative. And that's part of the reason why we'll probably never see a textbook amber or liturgical incense from this line, even when we know he could blow that genre out of the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    Did anyone have to pick up their Zahd bottle at the post office? For some reason my tracking information says it is available for pick up today, but nothing is said abut it being out for delivery. I didn't miss it showing up or anything...kinda strange.

    It was dropped off at my door today.

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    Haha, I know I'm just kidding around, I'm definitely referring to wood/amber scents, not the lazily done accord in the Armani mainstreams. I know we'll probably never see a kick ass liturgical incense from Slumberhouse but love what Laurie at SSS has done w/ creating some pretty innovative sense in both genres and we all know Josh would knock it out of the park. Either way, I can't wait to see what it is that arises next from the line. I'm working on my own amber/incense currently and it was pretty challenging to make something different that hasn't been done before...ended up being quite costly too in terms of the materials since I knew if I went cheap and did the iso/vanillin thing I could just buy 24 Gold at a fragrance discounter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    It was dropped off at my door today.
    Very strange. I guess I have to wait for Monday (realistically Friday since I go to school all week and am not at home). I'm sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    Very strange. I guess I have to wait for Monday (realistically Friday since I go to school all week and am not at home). I'm sad.
    You'll be anxious and distracted all week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    I know we'll probably never see a kick ass liturgical incense from Slumberhouse .
    Will be interesting to see if we get such an incense based from SH, I'm a die hard fan of the house, but NK incense is going to be tough to beat... So far...

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    If you told me Josh made NK Incense I wouldn't be shocked at all. NK Incense is definitely one of my favorite scent I've encountered even after only having spent one day of wearing it just earlier this week. Deadidol said it best "NK Incense is the touchstone that all other incense fragrances have to answer to. Brutal and profound." I think Josh could surpass the shock level of what incense can be.

    Quote Originally Posted by badarun View Post
    Will be interesting to see if we get such an incense based from SH, I'm a die hard fan of the house, but NK incense is going to be tough to beat... So far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    I think Josh could surpass the shock level of what incense can be.
    He could. But the question then becomes "does he need to?" There's a ton of incense out there, and there's a ton of amber out there. In both genres, there's really not that much more that can/needs to be said/contributed. If you think about scents like Zahd, Vikt, Sova, P+O, there's nothing really like them and they're not really built on existing forms—they're trailblazing, to a degree. Norne, I believe, slotted into a genre that needed a bit of a kick in the ass -- as did Jeke and Ore. Aside from perhaps some of the florals that came and went fairly fast, there's been little in the way of redundancy in this respect. I'd love to see an amber/incense to end them all from him as well, but if it's something that fails to moves him in any way, then it wouldn't be nearly as effective as it'd be somewhat disingenuous and crowd-pleasing. It's hard to be "strange and unusual" within played out spaces, but Zahd is ultimately an incense (strong, specific Eastern temple connections at work in this one), but it's like no other incense that I've ever run across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    He could. But the question then becomes "does he need to?" There's a ton of incense out there, and there's a ton of amber out there. In both genres, there's really not that much more that can/needs to be said/contributed. If you think about scents like Zahd, Vikt, Sova, P+O, there's nothing really like them and they're not really built on existing forms—they're trailblazing, to a degree. Norne, I believe, slotted into a genre that needed a bit of a kick in the ass -- as did Jeke and Ore. Aside from perhaps some of the florals that came and went fairly fast, there's been little in the way of redundancy in this respect. I'd love to see an amber/incense to end them all from him as well, but if it's something that fails to moves him in any way, then it wouldn't be nearly as effective as it'd be somewhat disingenuous and crowd-pleasing. It's hard to be "strange and unusual" within played out spaces, but Zahd is ultimately an incense (strong, specific Eastern temple connections at work in this one), but it's like no other incense that I've ever run across.
    I agree, but if he ever does find one engaging enough to do, I'd bet that a good incense or amber scent from him would sell tons of bottles, probably allowing him the freedom to make another Zahd without the crowdfunding. I know that's not his goal, but it is interesting to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    I agree, but if he ever does find one engaging enough to do, I'd bet that a good incense or amber scent from him would sell tons of bottles, probably allowing him the freedom to make another Zahd without the crowdfunding. I know that's not his goal, but it is interesting to think about.
    It could require a certain compromise of integrity, though. And imagine how crushing it would be if that scent became his top seller! It'd be like an abstract expressionist doing a cliched and campy Louis XIV portrait just to buy new brushes: a reasonable undertaking, but one best avoided unless desperate measures are at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    It could require a certain compromise of integrity, though. And imagine how crushing it would be if that scent became his top seller! It'd be like an abstract expressionist doing a cliched and campy Louis XIV portrait just to buy new brushes: a reasonable undertaking, but one best avoided unless desperate measures are at hand.
    Yeah...I, uh, totally know what you mean. But does Josh have something against making an incense or amber based scent? I thought he tinkered around with an amber and bourbon scent a while back?
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    He doesn't need to do anything but it would be nice if he'd consider doing a churchy incense, right after he does Son of Zahd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    I thought he tinkered around with an amber and bourbon scent a while back?
    He did! And while I'd hate to get lips smacking, it was great (although perhaps underdeveloped). I think that might have actually ended up in something else, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    He did! And while I'd hate to get lips smacking, it was great (although perhaps underdeveloped). I think that might have actually ended up in something else, though.


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    We have a Grev update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarroditshallbe View Post
    We have a Grev update?
    No official word on Grev for now. But it's a great scent that will hopefully make a return at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    ... it was great (although perhaps underdeveloped). I think that might have actually ended up in something else, though.
    I love that he does that (thinking of how all the Zahd prototypes ended up in the final Zahd). It makes Slumberhouse seem like alchemy as much as perfumery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socalwoman View Post
    He doesn't need to do anything but it would be nice if he'd consider doing a churchy incense, right after he does Son of Zahd.
    As long as he doesn't release the killer aquatic N'Eau_Ah, and reformulate based on focus groups that have to sign NDAs!


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    I get it and I don't all at the same time to be honest. Yes, it's been done before but many scents have. It's kind of like saying abstract art has been done before and it's played out. Of course it has been done before, but many people before our time, now and down the road will create absolute masterpiece abstracts. At the same I respect the fact that Josh is creative and if he doesn't want to create something, I would never want anyone to push him to do anything he didn't want to do...but I don't think he seems like the personality type to bend to the persuasive. I would have died to try that amber bourbon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    As long as he doesn't release the killer aquatic N'Eau_Ah, and reformulate based on focus groups that have to sign NDAs!

    Laughed so hard I started seeing double.

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    It's HERE!!!! My Zahd was just delivered. Squeeee!!!

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    Wearing Zahd right now and loving it. The new bottle is great, when placed next to the old design it really is a huge step up.

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    Has anyone tried Mare? I keep going into a shop that carries Slumberhouse and sampling it about once a month. It's green and smells like dill pickles to me. I love it but not sure I want to smell like pickles... Opinions please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akahina View Post
    Has anyone tried Mare? I keep going into a shop that carries Slumberhouse and sampling it about once a month. It's green and smells like dill pickles to me. I love it but not sure I want to smell like pickles... Opinions please!
    I have it, own it, and love it. I don't wear it much event ho I enjoy the smell - but have it to be collecting.

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    Always wanted to try Mare as I'm a huge fan of vetiver. However, everything I had read steered me away from buying blindly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akahina View Post
    Has anyone tried Mare? I keep going into a shop that carries Slumberhouse and sampling it about once a month. It's green and smells like dill pickles to me. I love it but not sure I want to smell like pickles... Opinions please!


    I own Mare and love it. I get a melony-cucumber (pre-pickle) thing from it, with an aquatic touch. Occasionally I pick up on a vegetal aspect. Sometimes it reminds me of a freshwater pond in the early morning in summer--placid, foggy, a little balmy…or a cool, natural pool of water you might stumble upon in a forest. It's peaceful and a little strange too, like a weird green nymph might also be lurking around the pond. It definitely possesses the Slumberhouse quirkiness. I haven't smelled it in about a month, because I've been studying Vikt….and now Zahd. But like you, I had started with a sample of it and it kept haunting me and calling me back, and then one day the sample was empty, so I ordered a bottle. At the risk of extreme cheesiness, this is sort of what I picture when I smell Mare (bonus nymph included!)

    WaterNymph.jpg

    Oddly, I've gotten several compliments on it. So I don't know if other people will get 'dill pickles' from it like you do. I say go for it…you won't regret it. It's easy to over apply though, and in heavy doses it's annoying, so I go light on the trigger, 2 or 3 sprays.

    One thing I've found about Slumberhouse fragrances is that they really have a way of working themselves into your brain, and all of a sudden it's something you have to smell again and again.
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    I have a sample of Mare that ScentFan so graciously sent me, but I have yet to have the guts to wear it. Maybe I will soon.
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    Is Mare still available anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    Is Mare still available anywhere?
    Not to my knowledge. I think it ran its course a while ago, much like Vikt is doing now.
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    I thought so. The new Vikt is amazing. Too bad it has to go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    I thought so. The new Vikt is amazing. Too bad it has to go away.
    Very much looking forward to trying it. Once again, I'll get to wear it come Friday, just like my Zahd bottle, since Parfum1 was a little behind and out of stock of Vikt. If it is anything like the EDP I'll be happy.
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    In the same realm but a much different scent to be honest. Raw licorice and sandalwood. Old stuff was a ton of black Oud on top with metallic undertones.

    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    Very much looking forward to trying it. Once again, I'll get to wear it come Friday, just like my Zahd bottle, since Parfum1 was a little behind and out of stock of Vikt. If it is anything like the EDP I'll be happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    "does he need to?" There's a ton of incense out there
    SH's "take" on this will obviously not be the "regular" incensy feel parfums (of which many good ones are available) - it'll definitely be much more than that, if created; however, to me (& i'm sure to u as well & few more here), NK owns the throne till something else can blow it off...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rynegne View Post
    I thought so. The new Vikt is amazing. Too bad it has to go away.
    Safe to say you like the newer Vikt? I somehow liked the older a lot; now it'll need to be sampled side by side with the old version whenever my new Vikt arrives.

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    I don't see anything getting close to knocking it off the throne anytime soon to be honest.
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    Will josh be offering 100ml in the new bottles? I'd love 100ml bottles of norne and Jeke in the new design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rouj View Post
    Will josh be offering 100ml in the new bottles? I'd love 100ml bottles of norne and Jeke in the new design.
    No 100ml in this design I'm afraid.

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