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    im a 20 year old male and i live in the US, my max budget is around 110$ i wanted to know if you guys can point me into the right direction into finding a rose cologne very similar to " Tom Fords noir de noir " but not so expensive, something with smooth notes all around, gentle aroma of fresh roses, not to sweet but with a hint of masculinity " thats the best way i could try to explain it sorry, i'd be wearing this on nights out during the fall & winter! also do you guys think rose cologne's for men are good or would you guys stay away from them.? thanks guys

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    Cartier Declaration D'un soir

    Smooth , check

    Masculine rose , check

    Long lasting, check

    Gorgeous, check
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    Get a decant of noir de noir

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    If you can, do give Edition de Parfums Frederic Malle's "Portrait of a Lady" a try. Though classified as a feminine frag, Dominic Ropon's masterpiece is most definitely unisex (with the caveat that as a man, you do not over-apply it). I find it vexing that fragrances are categorically classified as masculine or feminine. It is always a revelation when one goes beyond that and embrace a frag as uniquely one's own.
    An attractive woman wearing M7 (by YSL) is, in my opinion, very sexy.
    This is a dark/ sultry. spicy/ incense-infused rose frag. Not sweet but well-rounded/ it has a smell of menace in it/ visceral/ intoxicating/ and most definitely different from most men's frags out there.

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    Rose is a definite yes for men.

    I cannot think of anything with the same chocolatey rich density of Noir de Noir. Cabaret is a woody rose, less gourmand than NdN, and drier-woodier. Some people think that Chanel Egoiste (the regular Egoiste, not platinum egoiste) has a big rose. I don't think so. In any case, it is very smooth and rich, sort of creamy woody with just a touch of sweetness. Aramis 900 also has some rose, over a resinous patchouli base.

    And in terms of quality/price ratio, I think it's difficult to beat Anais Anais. Marketed to women, it is perfect for men too. However, it's a different type of rose, not rich as NdN, but fresher, with a watery, almost steam-bath feel.

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    I would wait and save for the Noir De Noir. It would be worth it IMO.

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    Totally agree with this!

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    Cartier Declaration D'un soir

    Smooth , check

    Masculine rose , check

    Long lasting, check

    Gorgeous, check

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    Yes, rose is definitely fine for men. Some men are ready to pay top-dollar for a nice rose (see Amouage's Lyric Man). I haven't smelled Cartier's Declaration D'un Soir, but I do know that if you really like Noir de Noir, you should really consider buying it. It may be something worth saving for. Otherwise, as Tristan said, you could get a nice decant of it for $110, I think. Just my 2 cents.
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    Perhaps one of the three masculine roses from Parfums de Rosine might work.
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    Amouage Lyric Man is on sale at Fragrancenet, an amazing rose scent for less than the Noir de Noir.

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    Not similar to NdN, but Azzaro Acteur is a nice masculine rose.

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    30mL of Rose Anonyme can be had for under 50 IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by james1051 View Post
    30mL of Rose Anonyme can be had for under 50 IIRC

    ... having just smelled this over the weekend, I'll add that it's gorgeous. I smelled NdN at the same store, and they're aren't the same vibe, but I would honestly say about the same quality.

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    I became a big fan of rose-prominent scents due in (large) part to my reading up on them here on BN and sampling. You definitely should consider them as part of your collection. TF NdN is excellent, IMO. Also try Le Labo Rose 31.

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    Not in the same league but Montana Black Edition is a Dark Floral that I enjoy..

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    Rose has been a staple in men's fragrances for 100 years.

    Many of my favourites have rose in them ... Aramis 900, VC&A PH, C&S #88 ... and I'm a big, bearded, pipe-smoking, nail-bending, kettlebell-lifting, double-hard bastard.

    Fill your boots.

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    Yeah, rose notes really work on men. Actually, I've observed that any flower used in arrangements worn on the lapel of a dinner jacket or other formal wear, works really well as a note in men's fragrance too.

    As for good, reasonable priced frags with Rose, I'd agree with the Declaration Soir and Aramis 900, and add Burberry Brit and Dior Midnight Poison. Yes, the last one is marketed at women, but it's mainly Mandarin, Rose, Patchouli and Amber. Nothing there that a guy can't pull off (and decidedly less girly than Dior Homme!)


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    Good suggestions all round. I'd give Diptyque's L'Ombre dans L'Eau a try too.

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    Of course.
    Rose is delectable.

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    Fragrancnet was stocking this Rose Stallion last time I checked, get the 21% off coupon code and WAM...BAM ...you got yourself a beauty shipped to you a bit more then the $110usd you have though....
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    Perhaps also, in addition to the great suggestions so far, Esencia Loewe, Zino Davidoff, Ungaro II. While admittedly not similar (or not that similar) to the fragrance in the thread-starting post, they are all smooth yet manly and dignified interpretations of masculine rose notes, smelling much more expensive than their actual (comparatively affordable) price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post
    Not similar to NdN, but Azzaro Acteur is a nice masculine rose.
    Awesome, masculine rose. Lots of mens frags have rose and you have no idea. Rose is probably the least feminine floral.

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    None of these recommendations are good blind buys though. If you like NdN then getting a decant is your best bet.
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    Agree that rose can be quite masculine.

    I have a lot of rose-based scents. Sadly, all of my favorites that come to mind are as expensive or more expensive than NdN, so I can't really offer suggestions of my personal favorites.

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    Alas all my favourite rose scents are not cheap (Nombre noir, Windsor...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    Awesome, masculine rose. Lots of mens frags have rose and you have no idea. Rose is probably the least feminine floral.

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    None of these recommendations are good blind buys though. If you like NdN then getting a decant is your best bet.
    I agree on both counts. I would get a decant or, if you like Noir de Noir that much, maybe you could get a very small decant to get you by while you save up for a full bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    Rose is probably the least feminine floral.

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    Smell hyacinth. Its the least smelling floral flower.
    Then again, it barely smells floral to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hednic View Post
    Perhaps one of the three masculine roses from Parfums de Rosine might work.
    Rose d'Homme by Rosine is a wonderful suggestion, hednic.

    Also try buying a decant of Dior Oud Ispanhan.
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    They've already been mentioned, but Noir de Noir and Cartier Declaration D'un Soir are fantastic masculine rose fragrances. You may also want to consider Hermes Rose Ikebana. It may be a little too spring/summery for this time of year, but I enjoy it and wear it. My wife wears Portrait of a Lady (it smells fantastic on her), so I think of her whenever I smell it, but I think a man can pull it off.

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    Sure. I like Hammam Bouquet and Washington Tremlett Black Tie.

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    Rose is a tricky... while it has been heavily used in men's fragrances in many places (such as the Middle East), in the West, rose commonly creates a mental association with women's fragrances, so its inclusion in fragrances is usually more conservative for men.
    Most hardcore Basenoters don't give a rat's about this, but other respected Basenoters, such as Renato, have made intelligent counter submissions.
    For example, Aramis 900 is a wonderful fragrance, but many women in Australia wear Clinique Aromatics, which is very similar.
    It takes a certain personality to wear a fragrance that most people will immediately identify as a "female fragrance".

    With respect, you appear to be fairly new to this hobby.
    I would suggest you begin with a rose that leans firmly to the masculine.
    IMO, Noir deNoir is a fine fragrance, but definitely leans to the feminine.

    You've had some very good suggestions so far.
    Provided you also like patchouli, I would add Voleur d'Roses by L'Artisan.
    This is a solid, masculine rose.
    Perhaps you can get a lightly used 100ml bottle on Ebay for under $110?
    Be warned, the top notes can be harsh if over-applied, but the dry down is worth the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by musky_monkey View Post
    For example, Aramis 900 is a wonderful fragrance, but many women in Australia wear Clinique Aromatics, which is very similar.
    It takes a certain personality to wear a fragrance that most people will immediately identify as a "female fragrance".
    That's based on the huge assumption that "most people" will identify anything as a "female fragrance." I've never seen evidence that that is true, but people love to throw it around like it's a fact. And in this case, how do you know that most people aren't wondering why all those women are wearing that Aramis "men's fragrance?"

    In any case, I agree with the recommendation of Voleur du Roses, a good rose-patchouli. I can't think of many roses that come in under the OP's price limit, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagey View Post
    And in this case, how do you know that most people aren't wondering why all those women are wearing that Aramis "men's fragrance?"
    Well... in my defence, I did qualify my comment by limiting my Aramis 900 example to Australia.
    I have no idea about sales of Aramis 900 vs Clinique Aromatics in the UK, but in Australia, there is simply no comparison.
    Clinique Aromatics is a massively successful women's fragrance in Australia.
    Aramis 900 was virtually unavailable for many years in Australia, until the recent relaunch of the Aramis mens range.
    I am very confident that most people here will not assume women are wearing Aramis 900.
    I suggest you visit me in Brisbane, and we visit the malls and run our survey.
    Don't worry, I will pay for your lunch... we can make a day of it. :-)

    I absolutely accept that in other markets, where Clinique Aromatics is not such a huge seller, that the mental association could be reversed.... but in Australia, I suspect I am correct.
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