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    Default Angelo Orazio Pregoni versus Denyse Beaulieu’s speculations on Art

    In these days, Denyse Beaulieu released a post (http://goo.gl/0evSrr) about “perfume, cuisine, art”.
    Angelo Orazio Pregoni wants to share some remarks about this topic.
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    I agree with Denyse when she says that Cooking and Perfumery are strongly tied. I would say that both of them have the same pattern too, coming from Art. Whatever it can’t be true that all the relationships between taste and olfaction are artistic expressions. Trying to be more clear: I think it isn’t Art (we can’t consider it as Art anyway) what is a simple didactic tie without any intellectual reworking, what is a mutual, ordinary and unsurprising link that only could work as a teaching model for fools.
    Everyone of us remember that “G” is for “Grape” and remember its taste too. Everyone of us remember how grape is and also how it smells, but the children’s sketches on the walls of schools aren’t artworks! Maybe those sketches could be Art in the hands of an artist, but only this way they could become!
    So, if it remains a simple didactical tool, the tie between Cooking and Perfumery is an assignment for an employee.
    There are many events that join foods with perfumes or essences everywhere all around the World, but the only Art performance in them it could be to put the fingers in our throat or nose!
    Art is much more than this! My fortune was to work over ten years as Executive Chef, trying new, unusual directions side by side with many great Chefs, in and out of my Crew. My fortune was thinking and realizing, as the first Chef in the World, a ‘Fluxus Dinner’ in far 2002, with Fluxus Movement original members.
    Alison Knowles served bean soup from a big cauldron (she often used beans in her artworks) and the guests added numbered secret ingredients to their soups, making them different by any other.
    In the meantime, an actor playing a clochard and a wild boar at the same time was going around among tables and, after having produced many troubles, he entered in the kitchen to savagely fight with the chef (me), who triumphant showed its blooding cut head finally. The remainder of that wild boar went in attendees dishes!
    Larry Miller (who earlier worked to an image of Christ with chocolate) served the dessert. Each slice of condensed milk with agar-agar was decorated with a chocolate cross and blessed by rum. The whole performance was recorded and photographed, so entering in Fluxus Movement History.
    This year 2013 only, this time as Nez, I created another Fluxus performance, named "Splash, slow dinner fast perfume” featuring the great Chef Schilo van Coevorden, showing how to make a perfume in two hours, using wines and dishes from Schilo.
    So I tried to tell a story beyond the food, using that food as ingredient and going over each arrogant doctrinal method that joins foods and perfume.
    The lines that separated me and Schilo were very clear-cut so we gave life to a magical Performance Art moment that evening. A one piece perfume was born, with flaws that made it precious as no other fragrance.
    What else could I say? “Splash” will be again (changing its creative concept), meanwhile the French (even when they are Canadians) can’t astonish me anymore. The piece of Denyse Beaulieu is an example of how much they consider themselves the top of the class even when they aren’t. Their only will is to preserve the status quo, using a cultured and well dressed ignorance and marketing trusts too. They achieve in this goal also thanks to many people so poor they don’t have the proud and the will to consider themselves as cool as French.
    I also agree with Denyse about the charm of the “Mise en Abyme” concept, and that it would be a perfect name for a perfume. Unfortunately, it just was the name of my Art Performance in 2012, that gave life to two perfumes: “Supercilium with a ‘C’ only” and “Subcilium”!
    Denyse knows these things because we talked about them for two days in Amsterdam, where she was for the launch of Peety by O’Driù, my brand. We talked about Art and Perfumery, eating together and walking around for shopping. Schilo cooked our dinner! Denyse is a cultured and charming woman. A Parisian woman, indeed a French and a Canadian one.
    Sometimes I ask to myself: what would have been of Charles Baudelaire and its genius if he didn’t translate Edgar Allan Poe?
    «Quoth the Raven, ‘Nevermore’.»

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    What is this about?
    Last edited by heperd; 17th November 2013 at 04:37 AM. Reason: the first thing I wrote was really mean.
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    Default Re: Angelo Orazio Pregoni versus Denyse Beaulieu’s speculations on Art

    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    What is this about?
    I read this post and both links until I understood. And now, I will endeavor to say nothing, apply some Bleu de Chanel, and just enjoy fragrance. I highly recommend that we all do likewise. This is Mainstream Lovers Help Desk - over and out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    I read this post and both links until I understood. And now, I will endeavor to say nothing, apply some Bleu de Chanel, and just enjoy fragrance. I highly recommend that we all do likewise. This is Mainstream Lovers Help Desk - over and out.
    Same, except Tam Dao EdP. At least for me, when it comes down to it, I almost always prefer to enjoy art like a wolf howling at the moon, rather than thinking much about it.

    But then sometimes I like to babble on about perfume, I know. That's more like geeking out - wallowing in otakuness - though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    What is this about?
    Thinly-disguised advertising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marais View Post
    Thinly-disguised advertising.
    It kind of worked; I'm sitting here in Lalfeogrigio right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    It kind of worked; I'm sitting here in Lalfeogrigio right now.
    I might be sitting in something O'Driu, but I never got an answer when I asked if I could buy samples a while back. :-(
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    Default Re: Angelo Orazio Pregoni versus Denyse Beaulieu’s speculations on Art

    Quote Originally Posted by rubegon View Post
    Same, except Tam Dao EdP. At least for me, when it comes down to it, I almost always prefer to enjoy art like a wolf howling at the moon, rather than thinking much about it.

    But then sometimes I like to babble on about perfume, I know. That's more like geeking out - wallowing in otakuness - though.
    Very much agreed. There is a lot to be said for getting into the art and geekiness of fragrance, but when it reaches the point of taking public issue with somebody else's enjoyable geekiness, I just say "Check, please!" I want to respect all parties here, so I feel like I want to throw samples at everybody and say "Stop acting like adults!" There's enough horrible serious stuff already - LEAVE FRAGRANCE ALONE!!!


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    "Everyone of us remember that “G” is for “Grape” and remember its taste too. Everyone of us remember how grape is and also how it smells, but the children’s sketches on the walls of schools aren’t artworks! Maybe those sketches could be Art in the hands of an artist, but only this way they could become!"
    No philosopher or art historian here, but what has it to do with the rest?
    Anyway, if it's advertising, as Marais say, it doesn't work with me- in spite of all the good things I've read about this line and in spite of being fellow countrywoman, I'm sort of put off! (supercilium- wih a C only!)
    "Your fragrance with a fume of iodine" L. Cohen
    Currently wearing: Coromandel by Chanel

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    Angelo - can you fly?
    Raven - no, i can't. I'm stupid...foto 1.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by O'Driù helpdesk View Post
    Angelo - can you fly?
    Raven - no, i can't. I'm stupid...foto 1.JPG
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    ANGELO - Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy form from off my door!
    RAVEN - Nevermore!foto 2.JPG

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    Poe Angelo. A bird in the hand can be quite messy.
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    Angelo - are you messy?
    Raven - no, i'm fluxus...foto 3.JPG

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    This is ridiculous.
    "Great art picks up where nature ends.”
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    Abstract art..hence it means this in the artist imagination or that to the critic...
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    Yes Sir! 'O Lord make my enemies ridiculous.'
    You are right! It is just incredible to speak with a bird! But speaking with You Sir, it's a great honor and privilege!

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    Default Re: Angelo Orazio Pregoni versus Denyse Beaulieu’s speculations on Art

    Quote Originally Posted by rubegon View Post
    Same, except Tam Dao EdP. At least for me, when it comes down to it, I almost always prefer to enjoy art like a wolf howling at the moon, rather than thinking much about it.

    But then sometimes I like to babble on about perfume, I know. That's more like geeking out - wallowing in otakuness - though.
    I love this image and I love wolves.

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    What this discussion needs is a clear epistemological amphigory of intrusive onanistic thoughts viz a viz the francophobia in autodidact haute parfumerie. Clearly the resulting indigestion will produce a cognisant discord in the military-gustatory complex, freeing us from the woeful endurance test of Kafkaphagy. As ever, the primary ingredient of any great scent is noumenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post
    What this discussion needs is a clear epistemological amphigory of intrusive onanistic thoughts viz a viz the francophobia in autodidact haute parfumerie. Clearly the resulting indigestion will produce a cognisant discord in the military-gustatory complex, freeing us from the woeful endurance test of Kafkaphagy. As ever, the primary ingredient of any great scent is noumenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post
    What this discussion needs is a clear epistemological amphigory of intrusive onanistic thoughts viz a viz the francophobia in autodidact haute parfumerie. Clearly the resulting indigestion will produce a cognisant discord in the military-gustatory complex, freeing us from the woeful endurance test of Kafkaphagy. As ever, the primary ingredient of any great scent is noumenon.
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    Where are you, Raven?image.jpgimage.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleurine View Post
    I love this image and I love wolves.
    Just for you.

    A rare howling Ravenolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugandaraja View Post
    What this discussion needs is a clear epistemological amphigory of intrusive onanistic thoughts viz a viz the francophobia in autodidact haute parfumerie. Clearly the resulting indigestion will produce a cognisant discord in the military-gustatory complex, freeing us from the woeful endurance test of Kafkaphagy. As ever, the primary ingredient of any great scent is noumenon.
    I was actually just about to say almost exactly the same thing, but with fewer words that I've never seen before.
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    NOW you are really fluxus! Nevermore!

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    Sorry! I'm tired! Thank you for the entertainment!

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    wumo[1].jpg


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    Is that a magpie or a raven?

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