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    Buying real juice and returning a fake is a standard scam. When it succeeds, an honest merchant can be left holding a fake product they don't recognize. Even stores with sterling reputations have to deal with this issue.

    I'll broach the question of an authentication spot again. This will need more time, but I think there is more demand now, and it may have traction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    Right.. Hell i'd do it just for the trouble.. to last you till your new bottle gets there. Fast forward 1 month someone's gonna post on here.. Got a 4oz git from frag net and it doesn't seem to be full. Lmao
    If I can find a small atomizer somewhere I will fill it up probably, since heaven knows how long it will take them to complete the exchange. That would be hilarious! I'm pretty sure they can only sell it as a tester though, if not that lucky someone might be a little ticked off!

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    If your really that concerned and it seems like you are just call the company you bought it from and explain the discrepancies you have and I'm 100% sure they will answer your questions,but like I said before establishements like Fragrancenet are reputable companies and it serves them no purpose to try to deceive there customers.GOOD LUCK,and keep enjoying those colognes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tensor9 View Post
    "Sixth-generation master perfumer Olivier CREED is on the record as saying that authentic CREED fragrances stored properly — like wine, out of direct sunlight, in a place of moderate, consistent temperature — can last up to six years or more."

    source: http://blog.creedboutique.com/2012/page/5/

    In other words, they do have a finite shelf life.

    As far as the fakes from fragrancenet, there are smatterings of complaints all over the internet. Not just of creeds, but of other brands.

    One example: http://badgerandblade.com/vb/showthr...com-Fake-Creed!!!

    As an example. Take from it what you like.

    Just do a search for "fragrancenet fake" and look through the comments on some various consumer review sites. Some of what they say can be explained by the product being defective, some of the descriptions are OBVIOUSLY of blatantly fake products.

    Fragrancenet deals in the grey market. They are bound to have some fakes slip in at some point due to circumstances outside of their control.

    And to be clear, I'm not saying fragrancenet is a scam site or that their products are always shit. I'm saying that, though most of the time you'll probably get a legit product, there is also a pretty good chance you'll get something that's wholly unacceptable, whether it be defective or fake.
    Yea fakes can slip in under the radar anywhere.. I got a 8.4oz flacon of aventus from neiman's and decided to return it.. the sa didn't even open the box! If i wasn't an honest guy i could have decanted a couple ounces & replaced it with fresco or insurrection. And to top it off the sa said Oh don't worry it'll be sold by tomorrow. :-O

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    Yea fakes can slip in under the radar anywhere.. I got a 8.4oz flacon of aventus from neiman's and decided to return it.. the sa didn't even open the box! If i wasn't an honest guy i could have decanted a couple ounces & replaced it with fresco or insurrection. And to top it off the sa said Oh don't worry it'll be sold by tomorrow. :-O
    Yeah, anyone can return a fake product which is then resold accidentally. I'm just saying that from wholesalers like fragrancenet, you're a hell of a lot more likely to have a fake slip through. Their lower prices are probably worth it, but be mindful of the extra risk you're taking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Buying real juice and returning a fake is a standard scam. When it succeeds, an honest merchant can be left holding a fake product they don't recognize. Even stores with sterling reputations have to deal with this issue.

    I'll broach the question of an authentication spot again. This will need more time, but I think there is more demand now, and it may have traction.

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    You make a good point. Not to say I'm an unlucky person with an unlucky bottle, but I think I'd rather play this one out safe than sorry. I have nothing against fragrancenet, I am all for their business and that is why I'm happy to do business with them. I just feel as though I'll never fully understand why it is my bottle is different, so I may as well go for a bottle that pleases me completely. I plan on purchasing plenty more fragrances from them so I'm not saying anything against them -- I just think I was faced with an unlucky draw. Sure enough, I bet you my bottle is real. I wouldn't doubt it in the least. But I feel like I'd prefer to know.. Even if it costs me a couple extra bucks. And for the people who say "just buy from an authorized retailer, stop trying to save a couple bucks", you must be rich! Because I'm not saving a couple bucks going through fragrancenet, I'm saving A LOT of bucks!! And I do have faith in them as a reliable seller, this bottle of VIW is everything I could've ever asked for and more, and it feels great to know that. Unfortunately, I never got that sense from my bottle of GIT..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tensor9 View Post
    Yeah, anyone can return a fake product which is then resold accidentally. I'm just saying that from wholesalers like fragrancenet, you're a hell of a lot more likely to have a fake slip through. Their lower prices are probably worth it, but be mindful of the extra risk you're taking.
    True.. that's why i only buy more high end fragrances from retail places.. it might cost more but the peace of mind is worth it to me. I can hand select which bottle i want. Plus if anything i can just exchange it.. in & out instead of waiting & shipping etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    Haha i don't blame you.. but if they do charge you a 20% restocking fee i'd deduct it from the bottle before i sent it back.. an ounce should just about cover it. :-D
    Quote Originally Posted by nKelly95 View Post
    Time to buy some atomizers!
    I think I'll try to talk them down on that 20%. If they're going to be stubborn though.. Well.. I might just pay it. Figure 30 extra bucks or so for some peace of mind won't hurt
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    Right.. Hell i'd do it just for the trouble.. to last you till your new bottle gets there. Fast forward 1 month someone's gonna post on here.. Got a 4oz git from frag net and it doesn't seem to be full. Lmao
    Quote Originally Posted by nKelly95 View Post
    If I can find a small atomizer somewhere I will fill it up probably, since heaven knows how long it will take them to complete the exchange. That would be hilarious! I'm pretty sure they can only sell it as a tester though, if not that lucky someone might be a little ticked off!
    Are you guys kidding me? This is extremely dishonest and unethical. How old are you? And to laugh at someone on here getting your returned bottle missing an ounce??? WTF is wrong with you people. brb forwarding this thread to fragrancenet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    Are you guys kidding me? This is extremely dishonest and unethical. How old are you? And to laugh at someone on here getting your returned bottle missing an ounce??? WTF is wrong with you people. brb forwarding this thread to fragrancenet.
    Because we were being soo serious! Why do you think fragrancenet charges a restocking fee? Let's think about this one... Hmmmm... Because they can't sell it new if it's used!! You can tell if something's new because it doesn't spray upon first trigger pull, i would think you should know that. So basically, it doesn't mean anything even if you only use 1 spray. They can still tell you used it, and charge you the 20%. I'm definitely going out of my way to fill a decant. I don't want to be rude but that's absurd for you to even think that. Tell fragrancenet on me, I promise they'll still cherish every penny I give to their business

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    Are you guys kidding me? This is extremely dishonest and unethical. How old are you? And to laugh at someone on here getting your returned bottle missing an ounce??? WTF is wrong with you people. brb forwarding this thread to fragrancenet.
    Oh yea but its so ethical to sell someone a shity product then charge em to return it. And the comment about someone getting the bottle with an ounce missing was a joke. Geez

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    Are you guys kidding me? This is extremely dishonest and unethical. How old are you? And to laugh at someone on here getting your returned bottle missing an ounce??? WTF is wrong with you people. brb forwarding this thread to fragrancenet.
    And what's forwarding this to frag net gonna do? Ok guys don't take any returns from a guy named nkelly95.. he's 1inch tall, wears a red hat & rides a little green dragon. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    And what's forwarding this to frag net gonna do? Ok guys don't take any returns from a guy named nkelly95.. he's 1inch tall, wears a red hat & rides a little green dragon. Lol
    I'm sure there's a lot of guys in Chicago trying to return a bottle of GIT who also just received a bottle of VIW. I wasn't actually going to forward it to frangrancenet, but I will now due to both of your continued flippant attitudes. Acting like it's your right to 'fill up a decant' on a return. smh

    also, hope nkelly95 isn't any part of his email address that placed the order ... (or part of his name from the order)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    Are you guys kidding me? This is extremely dishonest and unethical. How old are you? And to laugh at someone on here getting your returned bottle missing an ounce??? WTF is wrong with you people. brb forwarding this thread to fragrancenet.
    Oh and another thing.. If someone returns a fragrance for being defective/expired and they turn around & sell it to someone else what does that say about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    Oh and another thing.. If someone returns a fragrance for being defective/expired and they turn around & sell it to someone else what does that say about them?
    Who says that happened? The guy making the return is just a paranoid child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    And what's forwarding this to frag net gonna do? Ok guys don't take any returns from a guy named nkelly95.. he's 1inch tall, wears a red hat & rides a little green dragon. Lol
    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    I'm sure there's a lot of guys in Chicago trying to return a bottle of GIT who also just received a bottle of VIW. I wasn't actually going to forward it to frangrancenet, but I will now due to both of your continued flippant attitudes. Acting like it's your right to 'fill up a decant' on a return. smh

    also, hope nkelly95 isn't any part of his email address that placed the order ... (or part of his name from the order)
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    I'm sure there's a lot of guys in Chicago trying to return a bottle of GIT who also just received a bottle of VIW. I wasn't actually going to forward it to frangrancenet, but I will now due to both of your continued flippant attitudes. Acting like it's your right to 'fill up a decant' on a return. smh

    also, hope nkelly95 isn't any part of his email address that placed the order ... (or part of his name from the order)
    Look we obviously got off on the wrong foot.. I'm not a bad person.. I joined this site because i'm a fragrance lover. As i'm sure you are as well. I don't wanna argue. And idefinitely don't want any enemies or to get banned over something so silly. Sorry if i offended you. :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    I'm sure there's a lot of guys in Chicago trying to return a bottle of GIT who also just received a bottle of VIW. I wasn't actually going to forward it to frangrancenet, but I will now due to both of your continued flippant attitudes. Acting like it's your right to 'fill up a decant' on a return. smh

    also, hope nkelly95 isn't any part of his email address that placed the order ... (or part of his name from the order)
    nKelly is part of my email, as well as part of my name. I will PM you when my next bottle of Creed is ordered, shipped, and arrives at my doorstep.
    Isn't it embarrassing that there's a flame fest going on in a fragrance forum? A mod should clean this up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchapalooza View Post
    Look we obviously got off on the wrong foot.. I'm not a bad person.. I joined this site because i'm a fragrance lover. As i'm sure you are as well. I don't wanna argue. And idefinitely don't want any enemies or to get banned over something so silly. Sorry if i offended you. :-/
    We're cool. It's just that the fragrance community is in general much more honest than others and I'd like it to stay that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by nKelly95 View Post
    nKelly is part of my email, as well as part of my name. I will PM you when my next bottle of Creed is ordered, shipped, and arrives at my doorstep.
    Isn't it embarrassing that there's a flame fest going on in a fragrance forum? A mod should clean this up..
    The only thing embarassing is that you're basically admitting you plan on getting away with return fraud and you're proud of it/bragging about it. Sounds like you were raised with good values!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjones602 View Post
    The only thing embarassing is that you're basically admitting you plan on getting away with return fraud and you're proud of it/bragging about it. Sounds like you were raised with good values!
    Dude.. Did you not read my first response? I shouldn't have to say anything else. "Fraud" is not on my agenda, and I'm pretty sure if you read what I said you'd know that.. If anything I'm helping their business. I'm about to pay them over $30 to restock my bottle of GIT that's been sprayed about 10-15 times MAX
    And when on earth did I EVER say I'm proud of committing return fraud, let alone brag about it? Come on man.. Your just upset and be illogical
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    Quote Originally Posted by nKelly95 View Post
    If anything I'm helping their business. I'm about to pay them over $30 to restock my bottle of GIT that's been sprayed about 10-15 times MAX
    And how much are they refunding you? I'm confused how forcing them to eat the cost of a bottle of GIT (minus $30) is "helping their business". Care to explain how that works?
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    I'm not going to read through all the previous posts here in detail but

    a) would you guys cool it off a bit and

    b) if anyone's planning some shady moves regarding returning product, take that discussion elsewhere. If there's been a problem with fragrancenet, get in touch with them directly. Let us know how it works out, but be cognizant of the information you're making public here.

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    C'mon, guys - just laugh it off!

    It's OK to joke around - no problems. And don't worry about Fragrancenet - I've been buying from them for YEARS - and tons of fragrance. I really love that I can get AUTHENTIC old stuff from them, too. Stuff that's basically turning vintage.

    And I really don't think people should be so worried about old stock (typically better formulations) or recycled returns.

    Seriously - I just purchased a bottle of a nice designer scent at a fairly fancy store (no names), and I am totally able to tell that it was a return that got recycled into a counter special deal set. Do I care that the bottle is missing a few sprays, and the box is a bit dinged? NO. It's absolutely authentic juice, and smells great. In fact, I saved about 10 or 20 bucks on the full-sized aftershave lotion that came with it as part of the deal, and I got a mini and a bunch of samples to boot. Not a scratch on the bottle - probably some lady bought it for her husband and he hated it. His loss, my gain.

    New fragrance aficionados are frequently worried that they got bogus juice - it takes time before your nose can spot a fake. And that's still the best way - put a bit in an atomizer, take it to the store, and spray side-by-side with the real thing. End of story - if you can't tell the difference, keep it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post
    And how much are they refunding you? I'm confused how forcing them to eat the cost of a bottle of GIT (minus $30) is "helping their business". Care to explain how that works?
    Because I'm not seeking a refund, I'm seeking an exchange. They will be able to sell the bottle as a tester + have the restocking fee difference that I pay, in the end adding up to over a full bottle of GIT. So sure they may only make a few extra bucks, but I'm surely not hurting them. I'm not asking for any of my money back -- just an exchange

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    I'm not going to read through all the previous posts here in detail but

    a) would you guys cool it off a bit and

    b) if anyone's planning some shady moves regarding returning product, take that discussion elsewhere. If there's been a problem with fragrancenet, get in touch with them directly. Let us know how it works out, but be cognizant of the information you're making public here.
    If you read through it I think it's pretty clear there are no "shady moves" in my agenda. I'm simply seeking an exchange. I have nothing against fragrancenet, and I'm sure they'll be willing to complete this exchange after charging me the restocking fee. I'll let you guys know how it works out, but no, there's nothing fraudulent with what I'm doing. Like I said I'm about to pay $30-40 for my current bottle when truly all I have used is 10-15 sprays. Nothing fraudulent about that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    C'mon, guys - just laugh it off!

    It's OK to joke around - no problems. And don't worry about Fragrancenet - I've been buying from them for YEARS - and tons of fragrance. I really love that I can get AUTHENTIC old stuff from them, too. Stuff that's basically turning vintage.

    And I really don't think people should be so worried about old stock (typically better formulations) or recycled returns.

    Seriously - I just purchased a bottle of a nice designer scent at a fairly fancy store (no names), and I am totally able to tell that it was a return that got recycled into a counter special deal set. Do I care that the bottle is missing a few sprays, and the box is a bit dinged? NO. It's absolutely authentic juice, and smells great. In fact, I saved about 10 or 20 bucks on the full-sized aftershave lotion that came with it as part of the deal, and I got a mini and a bunch of samples to boot. Not a scratch on the bottle - probably some lady bought it for her husband and he hated it. His loss, my gain.

    New fragrance aficionados are frequently worried that they got bogus juice - it takes time before your nose can spot a fake. And that's still the best way - put a bit in an atomizer, take it to the store, and spray side-by-side with the real thing. End of story - if you can't tell the difference, keep it.
    I would be more than willing to test it side my side, however I don't even know where to buy decant atomizers. Therefor I'm out of luck. I'm going to call customer service now and try to work something out with them. Once more I will reiterate the fact that I too trust fragrancenet, i just don't see why my bottle differs from the norm. There are sites such as badgerandblade that share information of fake creeds -- and many aspects of their articles highlight aspects of my bottle. I'm not saying the bottle I have is fake, I truly will never know. That's just the way it'll be until someone is able to 100% confirm authenticity, or I exchange it for one that makes me feel more comfortable and at peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by nKelly95 View Post
    I would be more than willing to test it side my side, however I don't even know where to buy decant atomizers. Therefor I'm out of luck. I'm going to call customer service now and try to work something out with them. Once more I will reiterate the fact that I too trust fragrancenet, i just don't see why my bottle differs from the norm. There are sites such as badgerandblade that share information of fake creeds -- and many aspects of their articles highlight aspects of my bottle. I'm not saying the bottle I have is fake, I truly will never know. That's just the way it'll be until someone is able to 100% confirm authenticity, or I exchange it for one that makes me feel more comfortable and at peace
    Misspellings on the box, obvious signs of a fake. Doesn't matter if a legit bottle somehow made it into a fake box. It's unacceptable. Just have them exchange it for you, and do not accept any restocking fees.
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    Is Royal Water in not much demand at all or something in regards to buying from online discounters? That one person maybe got a 2002/2007 batch, and I just got one in <20 minutes ago from LilyDirect. A3610L01. 2010?

    I'm planning to keep it so far, .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikePeeps View Post
    Is Royal Water in not much demand at all or something in regards to buying from online discounters? That one person maybe got a 2002/2007 batch, and I just got one in <20 minutes ago from LilyDirect. A3610L01. 2010?

    I'm planning to keep it so far, .

    That is a 2010 bottle, however if it smells spot on and longevity is up to par all is good for you sir!
    I wouldn't worry about a bottle just a couple years old. I'm not a firm believer that something can spoil that quickly, unless stored horribly!

    Just an update on my issue: Fragrancenet is awesome! When I addressed my issue the woman immediately said if there's anything wrong with the bottle of perfume you receive, the 20% restocking fee does not even apply. She took note of what I am looking for on the bottle (logo on atomizer, box that fits the norm) and she said if they don't have anything that completely matches my description that I will receive a full refund. Talk about good business! I'm sure they will have a bottle that fits my needs, as I think I was just unlucky with my first purchase. She said that they purchase their fragrances from several different retailers, so that is most likely why it seemed to be off. They sent me a new return label and will be sending me my next bottle with no charge or fee. I'm still astonished with that service. I would've been willing to pay a restocking fee to be totally honest, since I knew I was worried before even opening the box or using a spray. However the fact that they're willing to work with their customers to make sure they're 100% satisfied is awesome, even if that means taking blame for something that was shipped and possibly not authentic. Couldn't appreciate it any more, I might just treat myself to a bottle of OV to cap off this amazing experience of doing business with them. I surely wouldn't mind putting some money towards a great company like that, especially if I'm guaranteed 100% satisfaction every time. Plus I can't complain about getting a wonderful fragrance at a stellar discounted price!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nKelly95 View Post
    Because I'm not seeking a refund, I'm seeking an exchange. They will be able to sell the bottle as a tester + have the restocking fee difference that I pay, in the end adding up to over a full bottle of GIT. So sure they may only make a few extra bucks, but I'm surely not hurting them. I'm not asking for any of my money back -- just an exchange
    Wow you really are naive... you clearly don't know how testers work. Did you think testers came directly off the shelves/counters of department stores after they have been used??? They cannot re-sell your bottle as a tester. TESTERS ARE BRAND NEW AND UNSPRAYED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tensor9 View Post
    Misspellings on the box, obvious signs of a fake. Doesn't matter if a legit bottle somehow made it into a fake box. It's unacceptable. Just have them exchange it for you, and do not accept any restocking fees.
    This isn't always true. Spelling is the EASIEST thing for a counterfeiter to get correct. Creed is notorious for changing their packaging to throw off the counterfeiters. Example - I'm looking at 2 of my Creeds, 1 GIT (2012) and 1 Aventus (2013), both bought from NM with completely different back of the boxes. I know with 100% certainty that they are both real. There are multiple different words spelled differently, i.e. absolus (absolues), selectionnes (selectionnees), tries (triees), choisis (choisies), naturels (naturelles) etc etc etc. I'm sure if people checked the back of a 2012 box vs a newer 2013 batch, they will see the same exact thing.

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