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    Default Re: Woman's winter scent? No big florals or sweet fruits

    Great first impressions - sounds like a promising start!

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    I see where they are coming from, but my tastes do wander far from my demographic at times. Go figure, I loved it.
    So do mine. Go for it!

    And if you like incense, I have three words: Norma Kamali Incense. Very dry, ashy frankincense-and-myrrh tomb compared to Avignon's cathedral.
    Currently wearing: Ruh by Pekji

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    Here I am with a fuller report back! Thanks again for all of the wonderful wonderful help. Disclaimers: I didn’t venture into leathers or tobaccos so as not to spread myself too thin. There were also a few limitations due to the decant catalogue of the service where I started my first order. Finally, there is a round (2) coming, you can see where I’m headed at the end….

    I am happy to report that DaveStPaul was right – I am an incense girl, which was a joy to discover! And I thoroughly enjoyed playing around with CdG, so thanks for steering me in that direction. Off we go:

    Sandalwhaaa?
    Ambre Sultan, Bois des Iles, Caravelle Epicee were victims of my recently emerging sandalwood aversion. I can tell these are otherwise great scents. If this aversion passes I will come back to AS.

    Incense
    Sprung for a bottle of Avignon already! Enjoyed the green incense of Kyoto very much. Upping the incense ante on my next sample round, as you’ll see if you make it to the end of this small novel here.

    CdG Woods
    Hinoki, a gorgeous crisp hardwood, adding it to my full bottle wish list! You know, there are some much-abused turns of phrase in reviews for woody fragrances: “smells like pencil shavings” or “like a sawed off piece of wood.” Which are meant as criticisms but are not often aptly leveled. First, I take those things as a good sign for my tastes, and second, half the time I’m sad to find the fragrance isn’t nearly crisp or singularly woody enough to merit the comment. Hinoki is unapologetically so with a medicinal touch, a winner. I want to try Sugi now too. Sequoia was stately and enjoyable, while striking a kind of “men’s cologne” pose that I couldn’t pull off in extended use. Palisander went to a spicy soapy place that didn’t wow me. If anyone enjoys hardwoods like I am starting to (we should start a listing thread!) I highly recommend Bowmakers by D.S. & Durga. Gifted to me at Christmas I am quite pleased, and this woman can pull it off with the spray. Something about my dabbed sample made me second guess if it was too masculine, but in the spray the mahogany/maple opens up and around more fully from behind the lacquer/resin layer.

    Slumberhouse
    In the Slumberhouse camp I thought Sova was wild, like a fermented batch of raisins in hay. Preferred Norne, and was surprised to find it had a slight sweetness, like a touch of sap, instead of the astringent pine blast I expected. But lord is that juice viscous! My arm was green tinged and sticky! Can someone with a spray version assure me they don’t ruin clothes with this?! Haha.

    Vetivers
    I liked both Vetiver Tonka and Fat Electrician. VT is certainly well done and had a bracing, tangy cleanliness to it that I want to revisit when the snow clears and my grassy green appetite returns. FE struck me as better for warm weather, with the resins and vanilla. I owe it a second run to make sure it doesn’t go too sweet on me but I think the other ingredients temper it. I seem not to get along with L’Artisan perfumes in spite of their renown - Timbuktu was polished and put together, while I am not. I don’t know what keeps this fragrance from grabbing me, the listed notes sound fabulous. The mango? A puzzle.

    Others
    Eloge Du Traite went to a celery place. I couldn’t shake an image of talcy belly lint while sniffing Nombril Immense, blame the name. Would warm it up a bit if I could, and am extending my search into patchoulis now because there is definitely promise here. Black Cashmere was classy, elegant, and cozy – for when I want to pretend I’m not a scrubby 28 year old, but rather my step mom.

    ROUND 2 has been ordered and I am pumped!!!
    Serge Lutens: Gris Clair, Incense et Lavande, Borneo
    Norma Kamali Incense
    Hindu Kush
    Yatagan
    Profumum: Patchouly, Olibanum
    Coromandel
    Jayne Oromonde Woman
    Guerlain Songe d’Un Bois d’Ete
    Miller Harris La Fumée Arabie
    Diptyque L'Autre
    … and a few others
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    Default Re: Woman's winter scent? No big florals or sweet fruits

    Ack, I was trying to add bold and italic for reading ease but my html tags backfired. How did y'all manage to format your posts so nicely?

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    Default Re: Woman's winter scent? No big florals or sweet fruits

    Like this? You are welcome, too!

    We are normally using the options right above the text box.

    Seriously, thanks bunches for having taken time and sniffing most of the suggested fragrances. It alone -- not counting your descriptions -- deserves a feather in your hat! Stay with us a while, will you please?

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    I think I have the fragrance habit hard now, so I will be around My free time to surf the fragrance boards waxes and wanes but I eventually make it back. Thanks for fixing my formatting Twolf!
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    I always go for Coromandel time after time. Not a floral scent in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janjanjan View Post
    Preferred Norne, and was surprised to find it had a slight sweetness, like a touch of sap, instead of the astringent pine blast I expected. But lord is that juice viscous! My arm was green tinged and sticky! Can someone with a spray version assure me they don’t ruin clothes with this?! Haha.
    Great report - and I assure you that Norne should not be allowed anywhere near your best white linen!

    Nice selection coming up too - would like to hear what you make of NK Incense. Profumum Olibanum is also a nice choice, as is Songe. I've tried only the regular La Fumee so it would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the Arabie version. And since you're getting L'Autre, I hope L'eau Trois was among the "few others", given that you like incense! Anyway, as Twolf said, keep the impressions coming.
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    Hmmmm, my thoughts are if you can get a hold of vintage Trussardi it might tick quite few of the boxes green/leather/mossy. I have the white splash flask version and found it worked well for summer and winter.

    The fragrances market at men might be worth checking out, ones that come to mind are Puredistance M (strong so a little goes a long way), the classic Chanel Antaeus (spice/floral/leather) and Gucci Pour Homme I (woody, it really does remind me of pencil shavings in the best way). Encre Noir (smokey vetiver sans the aldehydes and add in an inky note) and Naomi Goodsir Bois d'Ascése (smokey/boozy/amber). BdA has a big smokey campfire opening, unusual but comforting. Notes from her site 'tobacco & whisky, are supported by cinnamon, amber & cistus labdanum. Oakmoss, smoked cade wood, almost burnt, prolong the incense of Somalia'
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    Thanks for sharing your thoughts! That's funny, I don't pick up any sandalwood in Ambre Sultan, funny how our noses are all different. Doubt you'd like Jeux de Peau then, so I'm pinning my hopes on my third Lutens horse, Borneo 1834

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    Default Re: Woman's winter scent? No big florals or sweet fruits

    There isn't a lot of sandalwood in Ambre Sultan, but I catch it in the background smoothing everything out for the first hour or so of wear. It's also one of the reasons I haven't been totally won over by Sycomore yet. Neither fragrance has sandalwood as a star player, but since I'm on the outs with sandalwood right now even a supporting role gets noticed.

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    Default Re: Woman's winter scent? No big florals or sweet fruits

    You might like to try- Lutens- Vetiver Orientale, Mazzolari- Vetyver, Profumum- Oxiana, Parfumerie Generale- Querelle, Guerlain- Sous les Vent

    my blog entry for Oxiana-

    http://www.basenotes.net/entries/873...unday-11-April

    I think you'll really like Ormonde Jayne-Woman.
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    If you're thinking a warmer patchouli might be a good thing, you don't want to miss Mazzolari Patchouly. Another great one is Montale Patchouli Leaves. Montale has a very distinctive base that doesn't agree with me, but I really enjoy Patchouli Leaves on my OH.

    Two others come to mind: Sonoma Scent Studio Incense Pure -- an amazing warm, smoky incense (lots of great reviews for this one on various perfume blogs) and, if you're thinking about trying the smoky campfire thing, the hyper-realistic Sonoma Scent Studio Fireside Intense is worth a sniff. (That one's also fantastic on my OH, but you have to want campfire accord.)
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    The early purchases

    All these great suggestions made me trigger happy. Only half of round 2 has arrived at my door, and a full test drive is still due to many of those. Yet I’ve already locked in on two and wanted to share the excitement:

    First off, I’m a lover of plain, pure lavender oil, but after disliking every option in a lavender sample pack 6 months ago, I stopped considering it in perfume. Turns out what I needed all along was a good lavender + incense combo. Thus, I loved both Gris Clair and Encens et Lavande - honestly I was torn. GC was dark and rich, simultaneously cooled by iris and warmed in amber, and boy did it project. I couldn’t believe how long the lavender lasted, being a generally fleeting note. EeL was a scratchier and brighter lavender, with a soapy phase before it slips away into the smoke. Perhaps less “perfumey,” while still very fine, and bonus points for no tonka/vanilla to speak of. Each ideal for a different mood: GC for an occasion or a deeply cold night, EeL for tea with a girlfriend or brainiac time. Unable to decide between the two on taste alone, I went for a bottle of the Gris Clair, being much easier to get a hold of in the states, and thus much more affordable: Amazon had it for $65 of all things. Score! Perhaps I’ll find my way into some EeL one day too.

    And second… now, a lot of reviews call this a deeply masculine fragrance, but I am convinced I’ve found my new man-eating she-power scent: Songe d’un Bois d’Ete. What a lovely supporting oud note, not overpowering or band-aid, and delightfully no rose to speak of. I needed an oud that could avoid being a bro-tastic bomb, without relying on florals to counter balance. In Songe, the myrrh is strong and dark enough that I don’t mind its sweetness, the spices give vigor, and the woody patchouli/cedar keep it all grounded. Whatever the jasmine is doing here I hardly notice it. And why call it a man-slaying scent (or woman-slaying, depending on one’s sights)? Because I am convinced the top and middle carry a passing but distinct nod to pussy! Yes, I said it. I’ve only found a few instances of reviews that seemed to pick up anything close, using words like “animalic” “a little stinky” or “some body odor.” But to my nose, that musky, balsamic tang is closest to “vagina.” And by god, it works! Just a top notch fragrance. Too pricey to acquire a full bottle, I’ve made inquiries into what might be my first splits purchase.* Will have to ration my Songe for nights out a-hunting ☺ (Hopefully my take doesn't bother other lovers of this scent, forgive me!)

    Other collected thoughts

    I am impressed by the seamless unity of what I expected to be dissonant notes in Coromandel. Patchouli, citrus, incense, white chocolate? But I am learning never to anticipate dissonance in a Chanel! This comes together so well - takes great talent to have this vision and make it a reality, I'm impressed. A side step from my personality, and I'm off citrus until this deep cold breaks (we have record lows here in the Midwest, USA - stay warm and safe everyone!). But Coromandel nails it for my sister I think. In fact, I'm putting this sample in an envelope for her tomorrow...

    I thought Hindu Kush was a lovely oakmoss, very wearable and serene. Diptyque's L'Autre, which I found while researching other suggestions, was an absolute blast to sample, so unique. A strong resemblance to a friend of mine and the spicy sweat smell he carries when he skips a shower. Norma Kamali's Incense is so strong, in part a function of concentration, that I am waiting for a day alone when I can give it a proper test at safe distance from others. And there are still a few more to get through with the second half of my order en route.

    *Can I just say this website is wonderful?! Splits! Swaps! Ways to share and trade insights/scents with less waste and more discovery than buying and sampling in isolation. I dig this place, I dig you all.

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    Default Re: Woman's winter scent? No big florals or sweet fruits

    Great feedback Janjanjan. This type of thread helps make Basenotes a great place.

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    Thanks for taking the time to report back - and in such depth. So many people just take the recommendations and run, but of course it's this kind of considered reviewing that makes BN an excellent resource.

    Glad you're enjoying the BN ride so far

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    I would have to say Cherie Blossom by harveyprince, my all time favourite autumn and winter scent.
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    I really enjoyed your thread and the detailed feedback Janjanjan Have you tried any of Ayala moriels scents? I think you might like Razala. Also from Chanel you should give Egoiste a try.( a "male scent")
    Currently wearing: Coromandel by Chanel

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    Perhaps Le Dix might be also worth testing: a classic, almost powerhouse-style ladies chypre, with just a hint of leather and boozyness, counterbalanced by bracing, invigorating citrus notes and some florals- never too sweet nor heavy, but still distinctive and strong enough to be suitable for wintertime wear.

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    Habanita, great in winter, sultry in the heat

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    Revisiting this thread as fall 2014 approaches and I'm happy to report: I've come around on the Ambre Sultan and am close to pulling the trigger on a full bottle! I also went for a large decant of Hindu Kush.

    This fall I'm thinking musk! Any favorite musks or incense-musks?

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    I love how that happens JanJanJan. I know I started last summer and am in a completely different place than where I started. I think it's a matter of learning how to enjoy scent for what it is rather than basing it on an expectations. When I started, I absolutely despised Chanel No 5, as an example, and now, I can't get enough of it. Its a journey.

    Have you begun retrying the varying samples that you started with then? I bet you'll be surprised at what you think of many of them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, it's been fun to read them through.
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    Agree with most of the Vetivers recommended in here. It might be interesting to test even fresher scents as a dichotomy for wintery weather, think of it as eating Ice cream in mid-winter.

    Keeping in mind with what you posted you like, you might also want to try some Leathers, woods, ambery and animalic-like scents for winter.


    These might be interesting to test out but try them in the vintage form when available:

    Guerlain's Jicky
    Molinad's Habanita
    Guerlain's Vol de Nuit
    Cartier's Must
    Caron's Narcisse Noir
    Dana's Tabu
    Desprez's Bal à Versailles
    Balmain's Miss Balmain
    Halston's Halston
    Paloma Picasso's Paloma Picasso
    Piguet's Bandit
    Fendi's Fendi
    Trussardi's Trussardi Donna

    and finally YSL's Y

    there's so much more to try out but have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacona View Post
    Etro Shaal Nur might be another to test - citrus top, woods, incense and a little vanilla to round it out - very unisex.
    Just chiming back in to say I picked up an original forumlation bottle (round label, gold cap) of this on Ebay when I saw it listed and remembered this recommendation. Very nice! It's a sort of Chanel Sycomore, but minus the subtle nutty quality of the vetiver, add a touch of floral sweetness. It is lovely! Im having fun with it right now, and if I ever tire of it I know my sister will really like it too.
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