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    ^Thanks for these impressions. Looking forward to trying it.

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    "One small complaint: I do NOT see this scent as a Fall/Winter scent at all. I will be putting it away & bringing it back out in warmer climates. This just screams Summer!"

    Agreed. I'm not an insane fragrance expert, but in my opinion it does seem odd to release this one now...it's much better for a spring or summer scent imho.

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    Just came back from Hermes Boutique, I have tried Epice Marine and it was nice, I asked the salesman about Sample but he said they don't have yet, but he surprised me with his generosity and gave me this tester bottle for free! I think I will enjoy this 20-30 ml remaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yuyu15 View Post
    Just came back from Hermes Boutique, I have tried Epice Marine and it was nice, I asked the salesman about Sample but he said they don't have yet, but he surprised me with his generosity and gave me this tester bottle for free! I think I will enjoy this 20-30 ml remaining.
    Wow! That was very generous!

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    That's awesome...see, another benefit I don't get because I order online and don't live near a boutique...sigh :|
    I need to move, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post

    That's my main complaint re: hermessense *except for* vetiver tonka and ambre narguile -- those two seem to last, especially Ambre Narguile...my absolutle fave from the hermessence line. Like warm apple pie...mmm mmm mmm!

    The others I've tried to far? Fuh-get-aboutit. Santal Massoïa to me is one of the most beautiul and omfg amazing sandalwood frags, but it's gone within 30 mins ffs. At the price they're charging for full bottles, that's just not right.
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    I don't think Hermes (or Jean Claude Ellena for that matter) is trying to release powerhouse, radiant, tenacious fragrances. God knows there's enough houses putting out scents like that already. Their house style is much more about luxury, minimalism, complexity, artistry, etc. This either appeals to someone (I happen to totally dig that vibe) or it might make you indifferent to them (like many, I suppose), or turn you off.
    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    Agreed, but some of them seem to last longer than others -- on me anyway. I honestly agree they are all beautiful. I am starting to take even more of a liking to Epice Man as I can still smell it in the morning after I sprayed before going to sleep.

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    Just curious, but why do you say Hermessences are maybe not for me? Ambre Narguile and Vetiver Tonka are one of my two all time best fragrances. And while I do absolutely love Santal Massoïa, I just wish it lasted as long as Ambre Narguile and Vetiver Tonka. I don't know, maybe it's just me like I said...I'm not looking for powerhouses honestly, I'm just looking for light fragrances that are close to the skin, but still last. And so far, Most of the Hermessences I have tried are that way, and are absolutely perfect -- except for Santal Massoïa.
    I think what a lot of people equate to, not altogether correctly I feel, is that price equals performance (in terms of projection and longevity). Performance is actually determined by composition and ingredients. There is no way an eau de cologne type of fragrance would last 12 to 24 hours simply because the ingredients used are not strong fixatives.

    The Hermessence collection is built on JCE's rather ethereal style. That often translates to very light/sheer accords, but also rather short-lived scents (Brin de Reglisse, built on lavender, is supposedly very, very poor in this respect). But the perfumeur himself has stated that he has no wish to change the composition just to improve performance, and that the scents are what they are. Trying to improve the longevity of Brin de Reglisse (or Santal Massoïa, or Osmanthe Yunnan or any other Hermessence with poor performance, take your pick) will simply force the compositions into other directions, most probably less delicate and airy ones, that JCE feels it detracts from his vision. The two you mention, Ambre Narguilé and Vétiver Tonka, happen to use ingredients that are longer-lasting: one is an oriental, the other features vetiver, a well-known base and fixative. In fact, I believe many people have commented that Ambre Narguilé is the one Hermessence that is less characteristic of JCE's usual style, being heavier than typical for him.

    As for pricing, is that even related to ingredients (and by implication, performance)? Pricing of perfume is highly 'aspirational', and bears little correlation to quality (of ingredients) or with performance. Some people would also argue that often, the pricing of a perfume has to do with the effort of creation and this also does not correlate with quality or performance.

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    Great reply Maque -- makes sense logically, except Epice Marine seems to last just about as long on me as VT or AN does.
    Anyway, I'm thinking of ordering a full bottle of AN and another 4 small bottle gift set.
    OT a little...Given the theme of hermessence (light, not powerhouse compositions, beautiful and art in their own right), I'm wondering what to get with the 4 bottles in the gift set. Is there anything available with a light incense note, similar to LDDM from Tauer, but lighter and more smooth? That would be amazing -- LDDM, but JCE style, light and easier on the wearer. Thanks all in advance for your advice.
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    OK so it's like like 10 deg F and I wore Epice Marine today and it rocked.
    I'm totally sold on this; it has longevity and DOES work in colder weather.
    Definitely FBW, I'm changing my mind about this one...initially I didn't appreciate it's subtleness but now I do and apparently it has great projection because I got a lot of comments from co-workers

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    I wore this yesterday. I like it, but I don't love it.

    I keep thinking the entire time I'm wearing it that I'd rather be wearing Declaration or for that matter Bigarade Concentree.

    It borders on aquatic but that part of it is not offensive to me. Rather it's one of those scents that can be interpreted as A Fragrance For People Who Don't Like Fragrances. And I find it surprising that JC Ellena released something so limp wristed and frigid.
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    I really liked the beginning but by the dry down, a few hours down the line, I get a heavy, dominant salt note that I just don't like. Might have to test it a few more times to make up my mind...
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    I like the salt part. But that's not enough to win me over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    I like the salt part. But that's not enough to win me over.
    In terms of other Hermès "salt" scents, how do you like it relative to the various "Merveilles" scents? I just wore Eau Claire des Merveilles, which I know you've recommended, and I discovered that it is *fantastic* on my skin - much better than on paper, which was a complete surprise to me. Sounds like this one is not impressing you anywhere near as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    OK so it's like like 10 deg F and I wore Epice Marine today and it rocked.
    I'm totally sold on this; it has longevity and DOES work in colder weather.
    I always felt this would perform well under any extreme temperature. Glad you had a positive outcome.
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    So exciting! I can't wait to get my nose on this one! I really enjoy all of the Hermessence line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRM85282 View Post
    So exciting! I can't wait to get my nose on this one! I really enjoy all of the Hermessence line.
    Santal Massoïa was pretty much a "wow" for me - that will likely be my next Hermessence.
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    It's an acquired taste. I wore it for a week in Phuket by the coast and it was perfect in the heat - like a breeze off the ocean as I stood surrounded by tropical vegetation on loamy, damp earth in the humidity.

    Seaweed at low tide + peaty whisky aftertaste + a sprinkle of very fine toasted herbs, just un soupçon, mind you.

    The 'algae' note he has used is fascinating - if, like me, you enjoy vinegared seaweed (wakame etc.) then you'll be suitably intrigued. I don't like cumin and it's just a 'passing' note here and it's been toasted, which makes it less 'sweaty' - it's 'dry' and that works for me fine. I don't consider this yet another riff on Declaration, altho it's clearly Ellena having fun.

    I think it's a masterful composition but lots of kids are gonna be running to mummy going 'ewwwww' with this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    In terms of other Hermès "salt" scents, how do you like it relative to the various "Merveilles" scents? I just wore Eau Claire des Merveilles, which I know you've recommended, and I discovered that it is *fantastic* on my skin - much better than on paper, which was a complete surprise to me. Sounds like this one is not impressing you anywhere near as much.
    Nothing like the salt/amber note in ECdM. EM doesn't smell like 'sexy salty skin', it actually smells more like salt water air. I like it, in fact it's the part of the scent I like the most. The other parts, and how they come together, fail to excite me (yet).
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    Tried this one at the weekend and found it very poor, its a pass from me.
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