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    Quote Originally Posted by Buysblind View Post
    I think Maitre Parfumeur et Gantier have some fantastic perfumes, but I'll admit, I'm completely turned off from them by their bottles. They get a pass too often in this regard, when there's really no excuse for those things. I don't think anybody would be to unhappy if MPG completely revamped the look of their bottles.

    Agree, their bottles SUCK...I have actually opened & used the white plumbers tape on all of them before screwing in the sprayer back in - i used 2 bottles initially w/o this set up & they f'ing leaked like crazy...love their fragrances & the house is in my top 5, but they ought to pack them better...

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    Thanks for your response, Redneck Perfumisto and for describing your thought process.
    You're welcome. I really was careless in throwing that out there. The least that I owed you was an explanation, and an apology better.

    Quote Originally Posted by kalli View Post
    This whole thread puts me off from perfume, LOL. I am boycotting everyone!

    There are plenty of things that I don't like but..

    what I DO like is a perfume house that just sticks to scent and that's it, Ineke is a great example of that.
    LOL! We truly have let our gripes reign for a day. Perhaps it's time to rein them in a bit.

    Ineke is great. So no-nonsense. Here stuff is different, but still very reasonable - just a bit out of the mainstream. My favorite is Field Notes from Paris. A wonderful scent.

    Quote Originally Posted by rogalal View Post
    There's a certain type of lowest-common-denominator appeal that a lot of houses go for (Aquatic woody ambers for men, fruity florals or marshmallow fluff "fruitchoulis" for women). When I see a line that's composed largely of these, I usually pass. It's a quick way to eliminate a lot of unremarkable filler and save my sampling time for more interesting stuff. Honestly, if Hugo Boss or Tommy Hilfiger ever put out something truly amazing, I don't think I'd even notice.

    There's a niche version of this as well - Lines that put out niche cliches (they've got a lipstick iris and a smoky incense and a white floral and a citrus with woods) instead of really bringing anything new to the table. Ramon Monegal is a good example of this - all of them smell familiar if you've smelled enough scents. Oh, and every new line Barneys has brought in over the last two years. It just all feels like more of the same.

    Also, on the niche end, so many houses just put out too much stuff. If you put out a new scent or a new set of 4 scents every month, we all know they're not going to be that good, plus you're not giving me time to keep up.

    There's also expensive for its own sake. Lines like Xerjoff strike me as a bunch of expensive ingredients prepared by an inexperienced chef. The same goes for Agonist.

    Oh, and natural perfume lines that think they're saving the world....
    You have hit so many truths, all I can say is "agreed". They're not the end of the world, but..... yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badarun View Post
    Agree, their bottles SUCK...I have actually opened & used the white plumbers tape on all of them before screwing in the sprayer back in - i used 2 bottles initially w/o this set up & they f'ing leaked like crazy...love their fragrances & the house is in my top 5, but they ought to pack them better...
    CdG's Monocle series - the bottles are *HORRIBLE*. Leaky Hinoki bottles are legendary. I'm really afraid that the third scent in the series will be awesome, and I'll have to get another package soaked in my purchase! I've held out on the second one (Laurel) just for that reason.
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    Poor quality and poorly composed oud perfumes that companies put out to "tick" the out check list.
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    Don't see what's so bad about the Slumberhouse site, just looks like some S&M fetish store. The spit roasting, I assume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogalal View Post
    There's a certain type of lowest-common-denominator appeal that a lot of houses go for (Aquatic woody ambers for men, fruity florals or marshmallow fluff "fruitchoulis" for women). When I see a line that's composed largely of these, I usually pass. It's a quick way to eliminate a lot of unremarkable filler and save my sampling time for more interesting stuff. Honestly, if Hugo Boss or Tommy Hilfiger ever put out something truly amazing, I don't think I'd even notice.

    There's a niche version of this as well - Lines that put out niche cliches (they've got a lipstick iris and a smoky incense and a white floral and a citrus with woods) instead of really bringing anything new to the table. Ramon Monegal is a good example of this - all of them smell familiar if you've smelled enough scents. Oh, and every new line Barneys has brought in over the last two years. It just all feels like more of the same.

    Also, on the niche end, so many houses just put out too much stuff. If you put out a new scent or a new set of 4 scents every month, we all know they're not going to be that good, plus you're not giving me time to keep up.

    There's also expensive for its own sake. Lines like Xerjoff strike me as a bunch of expensive ingredients prepared by an inexperienced chef. The same goes for Agonist.

    Oh, and natural perfume lines that think they're saving the world....
    You've all pretty much hit the nail on the head. I'm quoting Rogalal because I agree strongly about the availability of scents that seem to all basically smell alike. Whether it's within a house or a genre.

    I especially agree about 'natural' ingredients that claim to somehow be beneficial. What baloney. It's all chemical and we know it. Stop clowning around.

    I personally am disappointed in 'new chypres'. So many makers concoct scents using lots of patchouli, usually and call it a 'chypre'. Sorry, but that doesn't cut it.

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    Iffy back stories.

    I've been relatively neutral about Creed prior to finding out that most of their history about being over 200 years old was crap.
    Certainly doesn't put it the company in a positive light for me.

    Also pricing fragrances to a premium that they shouldn't be.
    Bond No. 9 is extremely guilty of that.

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    RP- agree about Field Notes, though, unfortunately all I get is tobacco and dryer sheets from it these days. I used to get more..now it's tobacco and Bounce. My fave is Evening Edged In Gold. I am not crazy about all of her scents but I like the way her company is ran so far, specifically their exceptional customer service. I wanted to pay for something via Paypal, even though they don't have that as an option..I was emailed the same day saying they would be happy to send me a Paypal invoice. Her husband Bill takes cares of the e-mails I think and he is always super great. And I organized a sample pass for Hothouse Flower when it came out(not sure why, I hate gardenia 99.99% of the time LOL) but they were more than happy to help with that too.
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    Anything with "David Beckham" written on the bottle, and/or packaging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    .... but I guess I'm the one who actually needs to wake up on where the art world has gone.
    No. Don't apologise for your opinion. You are perfectly entitled to express your dislike of the image. I don't like it either.

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    ^^^ What Foustie said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graphite View Post
    I am almost speechless.
    Then try harder.

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    Re:Slumberhouse, have they changed their photos? I looked at the site and all I saw was a woman in a boudoir shot. She was wearing a lacy corset in a candle lit room. Seemed harmless, if a little predictable.

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    No, it's still on the site, kumquat, can't imagine the page looking better without it.

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    Oh, now I see the offensive porn on my big computer. You can't see it that clearly on iPad.

    It's a sad state of affairs when they feel they have to use prurient methods to get us interested in their products. Just as Miley Cyrus feels she needs to use overt sexuality to hold our interest in her music. It seems to call attention to the weakness of the product instead.
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    It seems to call attention to the weakness of the product instead.
    Agree.

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    I had looked at the website a few days ago on my iPad and didn't see the porn. Once I looked at the website on my laptop I was able to see the silhouettes. My first thought was: that is physically impossible. My second thought was: why did they choose to include an image such as this? It doesn't have much to do with perfume IMO. I also thought that including that image was a tad juvenile, but on the same level as pulling a prank for shock value.
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    Emphasis on exclusivity, superiority and luxury above any other attributes.
    Behemoth cut a slice of pineapple, salted it, peppered it, ate it, and then tossed off a second glass of alcohol so dashingly that everyone applauded.

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    Non competitive prices... The only decent prices you'll ever get is with gift sets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curly11 View Post
    I had looked at the website a few days ago on my iPad and didn't see the porn. Once I looked at the website on my laptop I was able to see the silhouettes. My first thought was: that is physically impossible. My second thought was: why did they choose to include an image such as this? It doesn't have much to do with perfume IMO. I also thought that including that image was a tad juvenile, but on the same level as pulling a prank for shock value.
    I don't think it's that offensive. It doesn't seem to be a real pornographic picture. For example, the shunga exhibition here was very popular and showed quite a bit more. People like a bit of cheeky filth. If it's appropriate to sell perfumes? Well, it is niche and they may not try to appeal to the mainstream customer.

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    It puts me off when fragrance bottles are displayed on tables with uncovered legs. So unnecessary and distracting. Tablecloths, please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rüssel View Post
    I don't think it's that offensive. It doesn't seem to be a real pornographic picture. For example, the shunga exhibition here was very popular and showed quite a bit more. People like a bit of cheeky filth. If it's appropriate to sell perfumes? Well, it is niche and they may not try to appeal to the mainstream customer.
    I'm no prude. I just think it seems desperate and tacky. I showed it to my husband and even he was shocked that it was for perfume. I've never tried Slumberhouse and, frankly, now I'm really not interested. I doubt they are any different than most of the new, disappointing stuff that I've tried recently.

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    I do buy their products (which are not generic mainstream offerings) & it didn't put me off at all - the Axe commercial, on the other hand.....well, wasn't thinking about buying any of those anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marais View Post
    It puts me off when fragrance bottles are displayed on tables with uncovered legs. So unnecessary and distracting. Tablecloths, please!
    LOL, oh my goodness, that's taking prudishness to the next level... Those tables with their exposed ankles and cankles, for the love of god, cover your eyes!! LOL!!!!!


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    Hilarious, Marais!

    At first I though "people really don't think that silhouette is real, do they?" And then it occurred to me that yes, yes they do.

    This has been one long (albeit amusing) series of facepalms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    I'm no prude. I just think it seems desperate and tacky. I showed it to my husband and even he was shocked that it was for perfume. I've never tried Slumberhouse and, frankly, now I'm really not interested. I doubt they are any different than most of the new, disappointing stuff that I've tried recently.
    Maybe they're going for some sort of French brothel/de Sade theme, who knows. I've never tried any of their perfumes either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marais View Post
    It puts me off when fragrance bottles are displayed on tables with uncovered legs. So unnecessary and distracting. Tablecloths, please!
    My table said, "If Marilyn Monre wore just Chanel No.5 to bed, why can't I?"
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    I saw the silhouettes on the Slumberhouse site and found it tasteless.

    Even shunga artwork deserves a disclaimer before it is shown.

    At least Etat Libre d'Orange are witty in their tastelessness. They are unabashed tacky and deliberately so.

    In addition to tasteless, I think companies bullying other companies with unfounded copyrights over general words as names of fragrances puts me off. (Also copyrighting a claim to an animal or image is also tacky.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    I've never tried Slumberhouse and, frankly, now I'm really not interested.
    Quote Originally Posted by Primrose View Post
    I saw the silhouettes on the Slumberhouse site and found it tasteless.
    +1. I have tried Pear and Olive, the dry down wasn't my thing anyway. I have boycotted the note of pear, I think, officially, I've had no luck with pear fumes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primrose View Post
    In addition to tasteless, I think companies bullying other companies with unfounded copyrights over general words as names of fragrances puts me off. (Also copyrighting a claim to an animal or image is also tacky.)
    That actually happened to Slumberhouse. Strange Invisible threatened to sue Slumberhouse over the use of the word "strange," claiming that her customers were "accidentally ordering from him instead of her." The fact that the owner of SIP is doing just fine, money-wise (http://mom.me/fun/4598-top-ten-holly...-abbot-kinney/) says a lot about the nasty move she pulled using her famous daddy-waddy's lawyers.

    There are many reasons why someone would choose Slumberhouse over Strange Invisible, and confusion isn't one of them.

    And my apologies for being snarky about the SH art. What you see there is an antique, in a room that was photographed by a controversial artist, whose images were then used on a the website of a highly idiosyncratic perfumer. It's a whole string of connections that while yes, bawdy, is very tame compared to some of the Tom Ford ads we saw earlier in this thread. SH is an edgy line, from the compositions, to the materials, to the absolute rejection of the perfume industry. The image, in this respect, is entirely fitting and seems to be having the exact effect it set out to accomplish. Much of that imagery is connected to Zahd, and when you smell it, you can see why. The tie-in is striking.

    As far as writing them off as "probably disappointing" before trying them goes, I'd say try them first before forming an opinion. Nobody's doing anything even close to what he's doing, even though it's certainly not to the tastes of many.
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