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    OMG CAPS LOCK?
    ARE YOU YELLING AT ME?

    We have a tough guy.

    I hate this community, generally speaking, I'm sure there are good people but I'm sick of the snotty,snobby,high horse attitude.
    More trying to accentuate those particular words since it seems you can't quite grasp the reason for us talking about it here. You know, the forum in which the question was asked.

    It seems that my post has injured your soul deeply. You should probably go have a drink to calm down. Those basenotes thugs and nazi's can be fiesty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    That is your opinion, the defintion of class is subjective.
    To say that someone lacks class, is not classy in my eyes.

    Obviously, I'm doing the same, but I feel as it is justified on the grounds of standing up for what I believe to be universally wrong.

    Why can't we all just respect who other people are, as long as they're not imposing upon anybody, why talk down? They're not hurting anybody but their body. No one is perfect.

    You don't like somebody, that is fine, I just would wish that the negativity would be kept within.

    Class can vary between different cultures, age groups, and etc, it isn't something that is universal and concrete.

    I think Jay is classy individual in my point of view.
    Don't twist words.

    I take your word that Jay is a classy guy but his act of drunken reviews wasn't classy.
    Other than that I'm sure he's classy & upstanding.

    Ok troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    OMG CAPS LOCK?
    ARE YOU YELLING AT ME?

    We have a tough guy.

    I hate this community, generally speaking, I'm sure there are good people but I'm sick of the snotty,snobby,high horse attitude.

    You win, you're all better then everybody, can't argue with a basenotes elitist, that is a battle that can never be won.

    Bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    If the opportunity came about to address those persoanlly I would do so,closest opportunity is right here. Like I said, instead of commenting on the video, addressing him directly and personally, I surely wouldn't flock to a message board to talk down on someone amongst peers.

    How about trying positive reinforcement, constructive criticism, things of that nature....instead of swaying towards negativity.


    I'm well aware of who Brad is and the why he made this thread, my response is directed not exactly towards the original post but primarily those who responded thereafter, but I also did cover what I thought on the original topic.

    Also, well aware that both Brad and Jay are members of basenotes as many in the youtube community are, you're preaching to the choir.

    You say no one used harsh words?

    " Stupid is as stupid does." "I can't imagine these dimwits have anything useful to offer." "it seemed like the reviewer was on some kind of stimulant stronger than a double ristretto."

    Really sounds like a wide arrangement of nice and positive talk, implying someone is stupid, implying someone is on drugs, implying someone is a dimwit...cowardly and petty come off as a compliment in comparison.

    If you can find a better more fitting terms then petty and cowardly, feel free to inform me.

    So your response was only directed at the 2 or 3 BN'ers that used the words "stupid" and "dimwit". Funny, your op seemed to lump all basenoters into one big group of cowards. Ok then. Idk about you, but I'd much rather be called a dimwit than a coward.

    Im sure you know that BN isnt a private forum, and since you also know that Jay is a BN'er, I'm sure you realize that he's perfectly able to read the above posts and defend himself. Let him fight his own battles, and stop taking yourself so seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post
    So yLet him fight his own battles, and stop taking yourself so seriously.
    I thought WE were the uptight ones?

    No wait, it we're elitists. My apologies.

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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    Let's all just chill here a bit - please. I think this is something worth thinking about and discussing, but let's all try to keep it civil. It's an interesting topic - I don't want to have to lock it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    We have a tough guy.
    Indeed, we do.
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    Let's all just chill here a bit - please. I think this is something worth thinking about and discussing, but let's all try to keep it civil. It's an interesting topic - I don't want to have to lock it.

    You shouldn't have to RP, but we're getting slammed for voicing our opinions. On top of that, getting called everything from cowards, to elitists to nazis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yteek View Post
    Well, as expected, the high horse mentality of basenotes has took front stage yet again.

    I mean, yeah, I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule, but the general consensus seems incapable of taking a humanistic approach. No need to take things so literal and serious, it's just one guy sharing his opinion, you don't like him, so be it, then to go on to talk negatively behind a computer screen, knowing in reality, you more then likely wouldn't tell the guy anything, is just sad.

    Do you have the same opinion of movie critics?

    I really can't understand how the BN community generally leads to the assumption that their own community is always superior to those on youtube, it isn't about being right or wrong, who knows this or that, has the best description and knowledge or whater, people need to realize the simple idea of human interaction through a social media element like youtube, is no different then in reality, as if seen in person, I'm surely not going to go on to chastise the person behind their back.

    Do you really believe that a YouTube video is the same social interaction as talking to someone in person?


    Call it corny, gimmicky, who doesn't like a little booze(you don't, ok good for you, have fun) and I feel it tends to be a nice social lubricant that can aid to voicing a honest and opinion, without the restraint many of us tend to put on ourselves from time to time.

    I could understand if he was black out drunk and acting retarded, this isn't the case.


    I find it sad that people lack the self esteem and control on their life, that their only way of handling their emotions is to throw misguided judgment upon others.


    So people who need to drink to voice a honest opinion are more in control of their life? And people who don't drink can't have fun?

    Youtube is more representative of real life interaction,while this on the other hand, makes up the realm of false reality where people can take shots at whoever they please.

    So video is more representative of real life interaction than the written word?

    At the very least those on youtube have the courage to put it on the line as who they are despite the vulnerability, knowing that many like I mentioned above, exist in this world. I can at the very least respect that, while, on the other hand, criticizing and hiding behind a message-board avatar, I'm not sure how anyone can justify that as anything other than being petty and cowardly.

    While it does take courage to put up a YouTube video does it make you immune to critics?


    Out of all the comments on the Dior Drunk Review, they are all positive and there are 70 likes, I can bet the two dislikes come from basenotes, and looking at this thread, all the hate and trash-talk comes from basenotes.

    How welcoming.....

    Just a few questions...

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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    Quote Originally Posted by hedonist222 View Post
    Don't twist words.

    I take your word that Jay is a classy guy but his act of drunken reviews wasn't classy.
    Other than that I'm sure he's classy & upstanding.

    ...
    Exactly. That's what makes the review poignant and fascinating. It's a guy who knows something about classiness in fragrance talking about it at the end of a night out, when he's not exactly showing his best side, but unintentionally setting forth so much truth, that the review takes on added meaning. It's almost literary, and in that sense, the sins are forgiven. But let us not mistake the virtues for the vices and vice versa.

    My one review on video, which I did to test my webcam, comes off old and tired, but shows sparks of my better side. It's fascinating, but not for the qualities one normally desires. Same here.
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    RP, i see where you're going with what you're saying about it being a different view. And thinking of it that drunken, makes me think of something else i think would be even better.

    A review written or video captured, by someone who has come home from a long day, or night. Wearing that particular perfume, and how its performed throughout the day, and all of the interesting things that may have happened. Compliments, complaints, etc.

    However without the cursing, slurring of words, and general drunkeness.

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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    Quote Originally Posted by aphexacid View Post
    You shouldn't have to RP, but we're getting slammed for voicing our opinions. On top of that, getting called everything from cowards, to elitists to nazis.
    I agree - I think he's taking it a bit too personally, and I hope he just takes a breather. I would also ask that everybody else be just a wee bit gentler, given the numbers on the two sides. I'm sure he's feeling a bit overwhelmed by the opposition, with only the OP and half a mod on his side.

    It's only by my having been well-lubricated in pictures and video in the fragrance world, that I feel I have zero right to throw stones. Personally, I don't think that drunken reviews have much of a future - they will surely get old quickly. However, I can imagine that seeing a favorite reviewer tipsy and happy every once in a while might be both entertaining and a bit personal, and so I don't think it will ever go away. Tania's review of Dior Addict where she admitted being a bit high when she first smelled it, was one of her best. Drinking has as much place here as it does anywhere - occasionally, and keeping it all happy and fun. But alcohol always has costs, and we are all wise to remember that. My wife doesn't drink, and she's never regretted a drunken statement or action.
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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    Quote Originally Posted by aphexacid View Post
    RP, i see where you're going with what you're saying about it being a different view. And thinking of it that drunken, makes me think of something else i think would be even better.

    A review written or video captured, by someone who has come home from a long day, or night. Wearing that particular perfume, and how its performed throughout the day, and all of the interesting things that may have happened. Compliments, complaints, etc.

    However without the cursing, slurring of words, and general drunkeness.
    Agreed - I think the best part of videos can be their utter reality, if people just go with it and make it turn into something special. It's when it becomes forced and artificial that it becomes a farce, and I think that's what a lot of us are reacting to - the idea of drunken reviews as a kind of low-class reality show. And no - I don't want that, either. That's like "Charm School" or some other "let's turn the sluts into princesses, but encourage them to be sluts for the viewers" type show. No. No class there. But if one of my favorite male or female reviewers came home from a party a bit high and posted about a fragrance, and did it right? It could be amazing. I think we just have to keep an open mind, but not lose our critical abilities, either.
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    No rules. Have fun with it. But it would be more fun for them if they learned more about it. There are a lot of great things to read and know about perfume.
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    Hey Brad, when can we expect the "So I started a thread on basenotes..." video?
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    never watch YT reviews they are so sad!
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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    Quote Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post
    Hey Brad, when can we expect the "So I started a thread on basenotes..." video?
    LOL!

    Actually, some instructional videos might be nice.

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    After a quick read glance at OP's videos on youtube, it seems my feelings toward drunken reviews also apply to OP's choices as well.

    "Top Ten Fragrances for Masturbation". I don't know what would make anyone think this is a good idea.

    OP, were you trying to attract the same attention that you thought the drunken videos were trying to achieve?

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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    I prefer to read fragrance reviews rather than spend 10+ mins listening to someone go on about the look of the box, what comes with it, the look of the bottle, color of the juice and reciting the notes which can be found elsewhere. There is an exception though as i do find the fragrance bros quite funny and i do enjoy their Vs videos.

    But all in all. I get much more out of reading a well written review than watching a video.

    And drunk reviews? No thank you, it's not funny and it isn't informative.

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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    Quote Originally Posted by aphexacid View Post
    After a quick read glance at OP's videos on youtube, it seems my feelings toward drunken reviews also apply to OP's choices as well.

    "Top Ten Fragrances for Masturbation". I don't know what would make anyone think this is a good idea.

    OP, were you trying to attract the same attention that you thought the drunken videos were trying to achieve?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rüssel View Post
    Are we talking about this guy or are there others?
    ^^Fucking hilarious. Such earnest gushing over DHI. Great idea. They are just having a little fun. Did anyone even watch any of the videos before saying how terrible and trashy they are? I doubt it.

    Also, Im pretty sure the OP is using what is called "deadpan humor". He likes to entertain himself.
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    This one is even better.
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    Calm, rambling drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heperd View Post
    ^^Fucking hilarious. Such earnest gushing over DHI. Great idea. They are just having a little fun. Did anyone even watch any of the videos before saying how terrible and trashy they are? I doubt it.

    Also, Im pretty sure the OP is using what is called "deadpan humor". He likes to entertain himself.
    Exactly.

    This was quite informative for me and not to mention also kinda funny.

    Could barely tell he was intoxicated, unless otherwise indicated, I would of assumed he didn't even have a brew.

    I like the fact that I can relate to this, it isn't some guy in a suit with an accent attempting to come off as an expert on all things perfume, just an average joe.

    Somebody said drunk reviews don't have a point, it doesn't need to have a point, it doesn't need to be right or wrong, all this technical and serious BS, just take it for what it is on the surface level and stop trying to dig below the surface.

    I would respond to all those feeling the need to gang up defensively on me, but the response on their behalf said more then I could ever and only further made example to prove my point.

    Like I said there are exceptions to every rule, at the very least I'm thankful to see RP to be decent and not take sides while remaining neutral and pleasant to deal with, which is a rarity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aphexacid View Post
    "Top Ten Fragrances for Masturbation". I don't know what would make anyone think this is a good idea.
    Gah! Anyways, this should definitely be #1..

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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    Keep in mind Tim Swetcoff started drunk reviews before any of these guys. He loved his box-wine.

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    Now I begin to understand so much Aventus hype.
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    Default Re: Are drunk reviews the future of the fragrance community?

    I think there could be real potential for a gonzo perspective on fragrance reviews and journalism.

    But not many have the talent of a Hunter S. Thompson.

    As for my jokes about drug use, well I blame the dude's dilated pupils. I have no issue with people doing YouTube reviews (or intoxication), but I tend to have very little interest in viewing most YouTube reviews. As others have mentioned above, I prefer the written word and I value a certain degree of conciseness and many reviews tend to ramble. Presenting in person isn't easy, and I admire their cojones or lack of self-consciousness, but it doesn't necessarily make them good or make their behavior advisable.

    Your white knighting them is admirable, but if they are brave enough to post reviews on YouTube, I'm sure they can handle a little criticism.
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    Just in answer to the OP: if the booze is going to cause problems at home, and if you think you may have trouble being honest while sober, then it's possible you have bigger problems than the viability of your YouTube review channel. I didn't know that drunk reviewing was a thing until I read this thread, but I'd have to imagine it's a passing phase and not worth risking your relationships or your well-being.

    The best reviewers--of perfume, movies, books, etc.--are the ones who are honest, curious, knowledgeable, and passionate about the subject matter. An overriding desire for popularity or stardom won't make you worth watching (or reading).

    I can't imagine being at all interested in watching a review because the reviewer's drunk.
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    What difference would it make anyway?

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