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    Question Best aroma-chemicals suppliers in Europe?

    Please I would to buy some aroma chemicals in Europe, hermitage oils have some but anyone knows another supplier with much offer and more variety of products?

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    Have you looked in the suppliers sticky thread? There were some there.

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    Shortcut to De Hekserij.
    There is also Omikron in Germany which I don't know yet.

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    thanks!!

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    Carlesrodrigo - nice timing. Tomorrow I am looking at the new synthetics we will add across the next few weeks. Please keep the faith!
    In fact can I ask what would you like to see added to the range.....absolutely anything you desire, go wild, just let me know. If anyone reading has specific synthetic requests they want to see added again feel free to let me know.

    Slightly different subject but I hope to get that Robertet order done by tomorrow afternoon as well Nizan. Taken a while as they have to get quotes from Grasse.

    I was going to comment on CodyDans thread, that's not possible now!!! Note to self - never mess around with IPP!
    IPP if you are reading I never ever want to be in your bad books!!!!

    Anyway I thought the Rose Heart from Rtet could be worth looking at. Also the Rose Geranium suggestion is a good one but I think not overly great if CodyDan want's consistency in his finished product. Rose Geranium was harvested twice last year as an example in South Africa by my guy on the East Cape. First harvest contained much more citronellol than geraniol and second harvest contained more geraniol and less citronellol. Plain English Ė one smells more roseeeey than the other.

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    Hi Hermitage Oils !
    here are my suggestions:
    Dimethyl benzyl carbinyl acetate, terranol, tabanone, jasmolactone, paradisamide, jasmin pyranone, guaiacol, olibanol, amyl vinyl carbinol, cosmone, toscanol, methyl pamplemousse

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    Hi Hermitage,
    My 'go wild wish list' (though note, I'm not a perfumer and typically only buy 5mL reference samples) includes:

    Methyl Phenyl Carbinyl Acetate
    karanal
    Possibly some more bases, e.g.:
    Synarome's Animalis base(s)
    IFF's Cherval base (as an aside, does anyone have experience of this ? Is it still in production ?).

    Adding: something prune-like, Prunol Clair ?
    Last edited by gandhajala; 2nd January 2014 at 04:51 PM.

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    all the links I know.

    http://www.aromatisches-blog.de/2008...parfum-kaufen/

    recommended: Butterbur & Sage Ltd.( UK), ESSENCIA (Switzerland), Deike-Chemie (Germany, only naturals), and the best one for chemicals: Lothar Streeck – Riechstoffe.com (Germany)
    http://www.aromatisches-blog.de
    Here`s something for the tip of your nose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conni HD View Post
    Hi Hermitage Oils !
    here are my suggestions:
    Dimethyl benzyl carbinyl acetate, terranol, tabanone, jasmolactone, paradisamide, jasmin pyranone, guaiacol, olibanol, amyl vinyl carbinol, cosmone, toscanol, methyl pamplemousse
    Iíll look into all of these and see if we can add them to the Hermitage Oils Artisan list.

    I can tell you however that Methyl pamplemouse is certainly coming soon

    Terranol is one Iím really hoping to be able to source because itís so difficult to buy and such a wonderful material: I completed a new bespoke fragrance using some just recently and Iím thrilled with it (luckily so is the client).
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post
    Hi Hermitage,
    My 'go wild wish list' (though note, I'm not a perfumer and typically only buy 5mL reference samples) includes:

    Methyl Phenyl Carbinyl Acetate
    karanal
    Possibly some more bases, e.g.:
    Synarome's Animalis base(s)
    IFF's Cherval base (as an aside, does anyone have experience of this ? Is it still in production ?).

    Adding: something prune-like, Prunol Clair ?
    Karanal is certainly one we should be able to add, the bases may be more difficult but Iíll see what I can do. For something prune-like take a look at prunella, which is already available.
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    ^ Wonderful, thank you Chris.
    Will add Prunella to my next order.

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    A few more that might be interesting:

    Isopropyl quinoline
    6-methyl quinoline
    Apritone (Bedoukian)

    Note that I have no experience with any of these so I don't know if they are very useful or affordable.

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    Ok, I'll post this here too - costus replacements and muscone..

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    Would gamma-octalactone be another possible addition ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandhajala View Post
    Would gamma-octalactone be another possible addition ?
    Probably, yes. It has some similarities with gamma-nonalactone, which is already available under the (admittedly rather misleading, but still widely used) name name Aldehyde C18 - Coconut Aldehdyde though.

    Speaking of similar items, amyl vinyl carbinol is somewhat similar to 2-Octanone, which is already available and as both are pretty specialised products I donít think weíll be adding AVC as well just yet.

    Iím also not sure whether weíll manage to add any more musks this time round, especially as some of the ones we donít yet have are particularly expensive, though I would love to be able to offer Hexadecanolide, Exaltone, Muscone and several others, they do represent rather a large investment at around 20-50 times the price of Galaxolide . . .

    We may be able to add Isobutyl quinoline to our Leather Collection, but probably not Pyralone (very similar and twice the price).

    Olibanol is a Robertet speciality that it would be great to stock - Adam has the best relationship with them so Iíll ask him to investigate adding that.

    I expect Iíve missed loads, but thatís enough for one post: Iíve been doing tax records all day and Iím going to retire with a Dry Martini now!
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    Any of these would be useful, for when you want a phenolic, medicinal note without the smokiness of Birch or Cade oil.

    3-Methylphenol (m-cresol) (odor: medicinal, woody, leather, phenolic)
    http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/cosmet...tails&id=35177
    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=GB

    2-Methylphenol (o-cresol) (odor: medicinal, musty, phenolic)
    http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/cosmet...tails&id=35578
    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=GB

    2,6-Dimethylphenol (2,6-Xylenol) (odor: sweet, medicinal, phenolic, tarry)
    http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/cosmet...tails&id=41305
    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=GB

    2-Isopropylphenol (odor: medicinal, creosote, phenolic)
    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=GB

    4-Propylphenol (odor: sweet, medicinal, phenolic)
    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=GB

    1-Methyl naphthalene (odor: naphthyl, chemical, medicinal, camphor)
    http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=GB
    Last edited by Pears; 5th January 2014 at 07:23 PM.

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    Chris, those were suggestions for Hermitage, as Sigmaaldrich don't supply to private individuals. Their terms and conditions are quite demanding, so I'm not so sure that you'd want to buy anything in bulk from them. Their samples could be useful in assessing which chemicals you wish to buy in bulk elsewhere though. Other suppliers for these aroma chemicals can be found at Goodscents:

    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1007701.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1007721.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1035711.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1036321.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1045571.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1008021.html

    According to Goodscents, the last one isn't for fragrance use but that appears to only be a suggestion because there's no mention of an IFRA standard or EU directive. It's actually listed on the IFRA site as one of 3059 materials used in fragrances compounds in 2011 (under CAS. 90-12-0).

    http://www.ifraorg.org/en/ingredients#.UsrV7m0qvKc
    Last edited by Pears; 6th January 2014 at 03:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pears View Post
    Chris, those were suggestions for Hermitage, as Sigmaaldrich don't supply to private individuals. Their terms and conditions are quite demanding, so I'm not so sure that you'd want to buy anything in bulk from them. Their samples could be useful in assessing which chemicals you wish to buy in bulk elsewhere though. Other suppliers for these aroma chemicals can be found at Goodscents:

    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1007701.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1007721.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1035711.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1036321.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1045571.html
    http://www.thegoodscentscompany.com/data/rw1008021.html

    According to Goodscents, the last one isn't for fragrance use but that appears to only be a suggestion because there's no mention of an IFRA standard or EU directive. It's actually listed on the IFRA site as one of 3059 materials used in fragrances compounds in 2011 (under CAS. 90-12-0).

    http://www.ifraorg.org/en/ingredients#.UsrV7m0qvKc
    Thanks Pears, I understood. Iíll see if we can include at least one of those into the next batch of additions.

    Iím also looking at including one or two of the pyrazines that David often recommends in a safer, pre-diluted form as they too are virtually impossible to buy for the ordinary DIYer.
    Chris Bartlett
    Perfumes from the edge . . .

    www.perfumedesigner.co.uk
    Twitter: @PellWallPerfume

    If you are looking for a perfumery consultation Iím happy to quote: if you want free advice, thatís what these forums are for
    You can also join my blog if you wish to ask questions of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conni HD View Post
    Hi Hermitage Oils !
    here are my suggestions:
    Dimethyl benzyl carbinyl acetate, terranol, tabanone, jasmolactone, paradisamide, jasmin pyranone, guaiacol, olibanol, amyl vinyl carbinol, cosmone, toscanol, methyl pamplemousse
    I have a few more wishes, i need : ethyl propionate, basilic synth., Iralia total, woody furan ( trisamber ).

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    Hello Hermitage Oils

    I'm just entering the DIY fragance world, and honestly I don't have much idea. Now I'm gathering some information for my first materials purchase.

    But I don't really get your prices...

    For example: Helional

    Perfumers Apprentice, 4 ml: 3 USD + 0,74 USD= 3,74 USD = 2,27 GBP
    Perfumers World: 10gr: 2,70 USD + 1,55 USD= 4,25 USD = 2,58 GBP
    De Hekserij: 10 gr: 3 EUR + 0,87 EUR = 3,87 EUR = 3,21 GBP
    Hermitage Oils: 10 ml: 16,99 GBP + free shipping = 16,99 GBP

    Al shipping prices are per item for a 20 units order and for my country (Spain)

    Please, do not misunderstand me. Really appreciate your effort. I just want you to be more competitive. And of course, I can be missing something...

    Regards
    Last edited by malpei; 15th January 2014 at 07:51 AM.

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    On the other hand, they hold stuff that nobody else does..

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    In the U.K., as a random hobbyist, they have a great selection imo - sometimes I buy from Oshadi or others but it's convenient to try to order from one place.
    Partly 'cos shipping costs are mental to here internationally.

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    Some of the aroma chemicals may be from Chris's own private stock, to first test the waters. Once some of the materials have been ordered in the bulk amounts that Hermitage require, I'd imagine that the price would come down a little.

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