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    Default Slumberhouse- Not Loving it

    Since there is a huge following here of this house, I wanted to try these. I have so far only been able to try two. Sadly, they have not impressed me. I hope there is room on this forum for a critical view of these fragrances, too.

    Pear and Olive, this is considered a favorite so I had high hopes. At first it is a soapy blast, pear? Maybe. Something akin to hand soap. If there are florals here they are masked in a plastic haze. My husband objected to the scent as soon as he walked into the room. As it goes on it doesn't seem to change much. Remaining soapy and plastic on me at least. Also, it is super strong and difficult to remove. Tenacious, slightly greenish, but not anything I would enjoy living with.

    Ore-
    slight cocoa reference in the beginning gives way to resins simulating something burning. The transition seems awkward and forced. I've had gourmands and woody scents that were far more successfully blended than this. PG-Aomassai, and Montale Chocolate Greedy,
    to name a couple.

    On the plus side, I will save a lot of money if I don't get hooked on another house.

    I should also mention one of the reasons I tried these particular scents first is because I am, personally, tired of incense and Aoud in practically everything nowadays. I think it makes most things smell very similar.
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    I love Norne. However, it's the only Slumberhouse I've tried. Sometimes Norne strikes me as more of a great scent than a fragrance, but I love it nonetheless.

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    I understand they are quite potent (except for pear and olive). I only tried Ore which I really like. I am in the slumberhouse sample pass, so I will check out a few others soon.

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    Oh P&O is pretty damned potent in its own right - just not in the resinous way of Josh's other fragrances.

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    P+O is far from my favorite, but I run from soapy scents as fast as I can. Thankfully I get nothing soapy from this at all -- boozy zdravets, algae, massoia, and of course, the pear. I also dislike cocoa gourmands, but Ore works due to the ingredients and exceptional blending. Synthetic cocoas like the Montale (Coze has some cool materials in it, and I think it's quite brilliant) have a bad effect on me -- I find them to be extremely sickly. Ore is pretty much the highlight of this genre for me, and wears beautifully on my skin -- largely because it's a non-gourmand gourmand, meaning you don't smell like cakes and deserts. Nothing burned or even simulating anything burned for me, just lots of creamy balsams and musks.

    Slumberhouse certainly isn't for everyone -- and I personally think that's one of its greatest attributes. To a degree, these are scents that upend traditional perfumery -- a gesture that I fully appreciate. But yes, measure, sharp critical thoughts on the scents are always welcomed! There are several that I don't get along with, and a number of them took quite a long time for me to "get." Grev, for example, I hated the first few times I wore it, but once I came around to the aesthetic and let some of the more accessible scents become regulars in my wardrobe, I returned to it and found that my initial dismissal was unfounded. Grev's now one of my favorite scents.
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    I've only tried a few and they haven't really been my thing either I guess.

    Pear and Olive, I got more coconut than anything else and the dry down wasn't for me. Pear, I have little luck with that note. It has a nice sweetness for a little bit but agree, there is something plastic-y/soapy about it for a bit...sweet and musky some...I just don't care for it but again, I really think I don't like pear as a note anyway.

    Iska- White Out note and woods at first, not for me. I thought the wood may have been an oud, possibly oud+ sandalwood? The White Out opening is strange...does get better with some booziness to it...but it's more about the woods than anything else. Like oud with a wine spill on top. I don't see oud listed in the notes though..smells more of oak a little as it dries. So, it's White Out>boozy woods>more about the woods. I don't smell suede at all and I see in the BN directory that it's one of the notes. Has a bit of sweetness as it dries down too. And something slightly mentholic. I guess there is saffron in there, I haven't sniffed many saffron scents I guess.

    Eki- almost anise smelling at first then becomes a minty magnolia+musk... it got a little nicer as it dried a bit. While there is something nice in there floral-wise for a bit..it's just too minty, becomes too sweet..in a cloying way a bit.

    No offense to anyone..that's just what I got from the ones I've tried.
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    There's definitely room for dissent, kumquat.

    Sova, Norne and Vikt are the ones I never want to be without, but I readily admit that P+O took some getting used to (although I have my own bottle now). It's quite unlike most of the other stuff in the line though. And yes it is extremely tenacious - I still catch random whiffs of it days later!

    And it's funny, but P+O and Ore are the two scents I never thought I would ever want to wear - pear (fruity) and cocoa (gourmand) respectively - and I daresay Josh's handling of those notes changed my perception of them.

    Having said that, Sana is the one Slumberhouse I've somehow never been able to get my nose around - just comes across as overripe fruit to me. Which may just be as well - I occasionally I think of the money I would have saved if I had never discovered Slumberhouse...

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    Haha, rowan - you're not the only one there!

    Ore surprised me hugely on first sampling as I fully expected to dislike it intensely, but it's one of my favourites (so far) - it's still difficult to actually believe that I bought a scent with cocoa in it!

    But they are very different from 'traditional' scents and undoubtedly not to everyone's taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lpp View Post
    Ore surprised me hugely on first sampling as I fully expected to dislike it intensely, but it's one of my favourites (so far) - it's still difficult to actually believe that I bought a scent with cocoa in it!
    Ha! I'm the same -- the last thing I want to smell like is candy. And that's exactly why Ore works so well for me. The prior version of it really did smell too much like cocoa (and it was way too strong), but this version is perfect -- it's like a cocoon of balsams and resins with just a touch of cocoa lingering to add interest.

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    Default Re: Slumberhouse- Not Loving it

    I don't find them exotic. I don't find them great. I like Jeke. It's the best thing he's made.

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    Kind of a shout out but..I think one of the best super indie lines I've sniffed is Garner James/Wooznib on Basenotes. Worth checking out, imo. PK Perfumes also has some interesting stuff going on.
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    The only one I've experienced was Pear & Olive and I scrubbed it. However, much like Kalli, what I got from it was almost nothing but coconut which I find overwhelming most days. I used to love coconut, but now I find I can't stand it as a prominent note.

    Based on the name, I was anticipating a juxtaposition of the sweetness of Pear with the tart bitterness of olives, instead, the whole thing was quite sweet.

    Still, I'm interested in sniffing the others as there are plenty of lines where I don't like all things, but I do LOVE some.

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    I haven't tried P&O yet - Mare is an interesting one.

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    Danieq, oh so it's coconut! That's a fair description. I couldn't put my finger on it. I really found it disagreeable. And it's an artificial coconut at that. Much like banana or strawberry flavoring- it doesn't come near the real thing.


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    Of the ones I've tried, the only one I disliked was Pear + Olive. However, after having an "I wonder what'll happen if I shake the sample before spraying" moment, I was converted and will get a bottle sooner or later. Not that shaking it before spraying is going to have the same effect if I'm only going to spray twice, at the most, per wearing. Sova, Norne, and Jeke are my most-worn. My Ore scenario was pretty much the same as lpp's and deadidol's, although I've only worn it a couple of times.
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    Default Re: Slumberhouse- Not Loving it

    In general, I find that Slumberhouse does sharp, interesting scents juxtaposing potent ingredients. So far, I have not found any that I would truly want to buy. But among the hundreds of perfume that smell consistently uninteresting, one can appreciate the style.

    I think the two you've tried are not representative. As others were saying, the one that seem to generate the most interest are the ones based on conifer and resins, like Vikt or Norne. Again, one must like the particular material and they are pretty sharp, but at least it's clearer what they're trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    Danieq, oh so it's coconut! That's a fair description. I couldn't put my finger on it. I really found it disagreeable. And it's an artificial coconut at that. Much like banana or strawberry flavoring- it doesn't come near the real thing.
    Just to clarify, there's no coconut in P+O at all -- and there nothing artificial in it either For things like banana and coconut, there is no natural version in perfumery. Many fruits don't actually give off a scent and require what are called "fantasy accords." But no, definitely no coconuts were harmed in the making of P+O.

    What you're smelling in P+O is massoia bark mixed with chamomile. The ingredients of P+O are: pear, cognac, chamomile, algae, olive, massoia and calamus. The materials involved are absolutes, CO2 extractions, and concretes.
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    @Kumquat, I will admit that I'm not a fan of the line. The Pear & Olive is a cloyingly sweet scent that made it a no go for me. The others that I have tried are okay but really nothing too special.(IMHO)

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    Love Sova, Ore, and Jeke for me. Love P + O on my wife. I respect Norne but it's not my style (I feel like I'm wearing a pine tree).

    Mare is the only one that I don't really like.

    Skin types and noses are very different, I can understand people having different reactions to the line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieq View Post
    The only one I've experienced was Pear & Olive and I scrubbed it. However, much like Kalli, what I got from it was almost nothing but coconut which I find overwhelming most days.
    It's overwhelming coconut on me too - you guys aren't alone.

    I thought I'd like the pear, as I loved the pear in Memo Sundance. Otherwise, I haven't encountered pear very often in perfume.
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    More for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    Just to clarify, there's no coconut in P+O at all -- and there nothing artificial in it either For things like banana and coconut, there is no natural version in perfumery. Many fruits don't actually give off a scent and require what are called "fantasy accords." But no, definitely no coconuts were harmed in the making of P+O.

    What you're smelling in P+O is massoia bark mixed with chamomile. The ingredients of P+O are: pear, cognac, chamomile, algae, olive, massoia and calamus. The materials involved are absolutes, CO2 extractions, and concretes.
    Yes, calamus sounds right. That accounts for the greenish soapy note. Chamomile, too. I'm unfamiliar with massoia bark. I'll take your word for it.

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    I guess my example of Chocolate Greedy wouldn't be my first choice of a preferred chocolate. One of the few that come to mind is actually Angel. I like the daring balance there with the patchouli. I just don't respond to the chocolate/resin/ wood afire mix here in Ore. with the addition of vanilla I am reminded of S'Mores that have caramelized and are burning in the fire. But that is some expensive firewood with some fancy furniture oil on it.

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    Yeah, Angel makes sense. Lutens' Borneo 1834 does the whole cocoa / patch thing quite well, too I find. But I agree that Coze is awesome. Ore is just a different aesthetic altogether in that it's more musky / resinous. He tends to veer more toward balsamic, almost chef-like scents that can be pretty jarring at times. There used to be one called Brosse that was almost like celery salts over cocoa; I couldn't get my head around it at all. His own taste veers towards sweet scents, but he's very invested in these odd vegetal type notes too, so you'll see them get smashed together a lot, which is part of what makes the line a little unappealing to folks who lean more toward traditional perfume aesthetics, or at least familiar materials.

    Ore's largely structured around balsams and whiskey lactone, but it also has this very striking material called oakwood in it, which is basically an extraction of the wood of old wine casks. I have some of the material myself, but it's so expensive that it limits what you can do with it. On its own, it has a slightly fruity tone to it, but it's essentially a boozy oak scent.

    Have you tried Fueguia 1833's Xocoatl? That's vanilla, rum, and cocoa, and might be a little closer to what you're looking for.
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    We each must be true to our own noses. Slumberhouse scents are potent, yes, and I can't wear them all, but I do want to SMELL them all repeatedly. I find them glorious, as you know. Have you tried Blackbird, kumquat? I just did and I love it. It reminds me of Slumberhouse, has the same complexity and depth, but it's lighter and my nose says it has florals hiding in the richness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScentFan View Post
    Have you tried Blackbird, kumquat? I just did and I love it. It reminds me of Slumberhouse, has the same complexity and depth, but it's lighter and my nose says it has florals hiding in the richness.
    Blackbird's a different beast altogether -- I love it as well. It is much softer, but it can be jarring due to the seaweed note. It's *perfect* on me, though, and those musks are incredible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    Ore's largely structured around balsams and whiskey lactone, but it also has this very striking material called oakwood in it, which is basically an extraction of the wood of old wine casks. I have some of the material myself, but it's so expensive that it limits what you can do with it. On it's own, it has a slightly fruity tone to it, but it's essentially a boozy oak scent.
    This sounds incredibly appealing to me. I am finding myself drawn to lightly sweet, woody and resinous lately. I also think that the pine scents will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieq View Post
    This sounds incredibly appealing to me. I am finding myself drawn to lightly sweet, woody and resinous lately. I also think that the pine scents will be interesting.
    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    I guess my example of Chocolate Greedy wouldn't be my first choice of a preferred chocolate. One of the few that come to mind is actually Angel. I like the daring balance there with the patchouli. I just don't respond to the chocolate/resin/ wood afire mix here in Ore. with the addition of vanilla I am reminded of S'Mores that have caramelized and are burning in the fire. But that is some expensive firewood with some fancy furniture oil on it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kagey View Post
    It's overwhelming coconut on me too - you guys aren't alone.I thought I'd like the pear, as I loved the pear in Memo Sundance. Otherwise, I haven't encountered pear very often in perfume.
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    Kind of a shout out but..I think one of the best super indie lines I've sniffed is Garner James/Wooznib on Basenotes. Worth checking out, imo. PK Perfumes also has some interesting stuff going on.
    Any of you ladies try Flou yet? Another I would recommend is obviously Zahd - if you had ordered it. Both are amazing on women imho.

    My sis & her daughter (my 7 yr old neice) - both adore Flou...I should add my neice demands to wear it from time to time (I keep it in my wardrobe).

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    Default Re: Slumberhouse- Not Loving it

    Probably I 'll try Jeke and Norne and some others as soon as they are available on LuckyScent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by badarun View Post
    Any of you ladies try Flou yet? Another I would recommend is obviously Zahd - if you had ordered it. Both are amazing on women imho.

    My sis & her daughter (my 7 yr old neice) - both adore Flou...I should add my neice demands to wear it from time to time (I keep it in my wardrobe).
    Not familiar with Flou. This is Slumberhouse? Is it discontinued then?

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