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    Definitely use the Paypal method. I'd be happy to pay for shipping here. Please PM you Paypal address and I'll send it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danieq View Post
    I was thinking just a shipping fee. I have bubble wrap and mailers already. Seems like in the US, it typically costs me about $3 to send the size packet I'd be sending and more like $6 to Canada (I think anyway, to Australia was $9 so I'm guessing it'd be a little less).
    I agree that this method is best danieq. PM your Paypal info to me and I'll send the money right over!
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    That's fine with me too, danieq.

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    Alright all, I'll pm you my paypal addy. Thanks everyone!
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    After getting error messages all day on the Paypal site, I finally called them and explained that I was unable to send my payment. It was explained to me that the ability to use the friends and family option hasn't been working correctly since yesterday. What they did for me was to have me send the payment as goods and services instead of gift to friends and family and then they reimbursed Daniq the 39 cents fee.

    If anyone else is having a problem sending their paypal payment, here is the number to call: 888.221.1161.

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    Bizarre, I had no problem at all. Strange stuff.
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    If you look at paypal's facebook page, you'll see it's been a problem for other customers and some are a little miffed about it:
    https://www.facebook.com/PayPalUSA?filter=2

    I found it amusing that I was treated to a Paypal ad inviting me to use their service to send money but then it wouldn't let me. Of course, wherever a fee was involved, like this morning when I bought stuff on eBay, there was no problem at all.

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    Figures we'd get to this stage on a day when they are having issues. I've gotten payment so far from 5 of you though, with only Socalwoman having trouble so I guess it's an inconsistent glitch.
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    Oh, I absolutely didn't doubt you. I have over 15 years of PayPal's "issues" under my belt, and I'm rarely aghast when I hear of them. I stopped being surprised long ago, and to keep (what's left of) my sanity I have had to just accept it as "business as usual".

    As Dani just said, so far only one has had this issue. It's enough to make one suspicious of PayPal


    Quote Originally Posted by socalwoman View Post
    If you look at paypal's facebook page, you'll see it's been a problem for other customers and some are a little miffed about it:
    https://www.facebook.com/PayPalUSA?filter=2

    I found it amusing that I was treated to a Paypal ad inviting me to use their service to send money but then it wouldn't let me. Of course, wherever a fee was involved, like this morning when I bought stuff on eBay, there was no problem at all.
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    Default Re: Erik Kormann -- Sample Pass

    Please see the rules in a stickie on top of this board. They have been posted here before but seem to have been misplaced.

    These sample passes/free giveaways are supposed to take place only in the male and female discussion threads. Rules have been posted there. No one authorized this one and the sample shipping fees have been disallowed as well.

    "Offering samples and bottles for free will be allowed here(male and female discussion boards!). Let's see if we can do this without asking for sample shipping costs. If someone offers samples and then later receives some, the costs should be a wash."

    I need to discuss this with the other mods. Please have patience.

    I am opening this with the understanding that all passes and giveaways must be in the MFD or FFD under the rules stated there. Please do not complain about any problems here as you are on your own outside the rules.
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    So here are the two options I propose. Either A: each of you sends me a very small shipping fee via paypal and I just ship individual packets to each person or B: I can send the whole bunch to the first person and then each one can immediately take their bit out and send the rest on to the next person. What do you all think would be best.[/QUOTE]

    For my own clarification: Option A is against the rules. Option B is within the rules. True?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kswer View Post
    So here are the two options I propose. Either A: each of you sends me a very small shipping fee via paypal and I just ship individual packets to each person or B: I can send the whole bunch to the first person and then each one can immediately take their bit out and send the rest on to the next person. What do you all think would be best.
    For my own clarification: Option A is against the rules. Option B is within the rules. True?[/QUOTE]

    I can now say with confidence that you are absolutely right! My apologies to all for the goof up.
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    Default Re: Erik Kormann -- Sample Pass

    To all,

    We're discussing this right now. Please just have a bit more patience.

    -RP

    Added clarification - we're not stopping this thread in the meanwhile. Just saying that for now, please follow stu's advice in post #40 above for further threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danieq View Post
    For my own clarification: Option A is against the rules. Option B is within the rules. True?
    I can now say with confidence that you are absolutely right! My apologies to all for the goof up.[/QUOTE]

    Danieq-no need for you to apologize for trying to do something very nice for BN. It was a slight oversite, at most.
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    Thank you Trex, much appreciated. I'm still learning my way about, always something new to learn.
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    OK, people. I'm posting this a.s.a.p., so you can all get back to having fun. We're going to ease up on the shipping costs for samples. Do whatever makes sense. Just be careful - the bottom line is that these are giveaways, and there must never be fragrance costs figured into things. OK? Also, we want to make sure (after this) that the sample passes stay in the Male or Female discussions, just so the mod team can keep up with them. We will move the thread if we find one elsewhere. We'll update and re-post rules as appropriate, but for now just follow the spirit of the law on shipping costs. If you can do it so it's all a wash, great. If you want to donate shipping costs, even better! But if a large pass becomes a burden for the distributor (which can happen easily), then just do PayPal or whatever makes sense. Be transparent, as was done here.

    We may come up with a rule on who can start a pass (number of posts, etc.), just to keep this from being abused by people outside the BN community. My recommendation is to always PM a mod before you start one, and I would say copy stuigi on that, because he knows the full Marketplace history.

    OK - that's it. Sorry for the interruption. Carry on!
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    Perhaps a "Unisex" fragrance discussion would be more appropriate, but I'm such a rabble rowser.

    If I understood the past messages correctly, I can't imagine why it's "authorized" to send 200 samples, (sarcastic random number), to one member, they take theirs and send 199 samples to the next, and so on. It makes so much more sense and is cheaper, faster and safer, to send individual samples, (or packets of multiple samples if this is the case), to each member of the pass. The shipping costs are less, there is less chance of breakage/loss/theft and less chance that one member in line may not "get around" to passing on the rest within a reasonable time, (or at all), and/or be a poor packer/shipper. Either way, each member still has to pay shipping*.

    I've been the unfortunate non-recipient more than once, from another site, where these issues have occurred in the past.

    *Members who are "passing" the larger packet(s) with many samples will pay significantly more in shipping costs than the members near the end of the line that are "passing" on one or two samples to the last members of the group. Conversely, if each sample/sample packet is sent to individuals, the cost is the same for everyone.
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    Thanks a lot RP, and all the mods for allowing the pass to continue! I am sure we are all fully aware of the necessity of rules, the enforcement of said rules, and moderators with good judgement and decision-making abilities with the power to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenNightMyst View Post
    Perhaps a "Unisex" fragrance discussion would be more appropriate, but I'm such a rabble rowser.

    If I understood the past messages correctly, I can't imagine why it's "authorized" to send 200 samples, (sarcastic random number), to one member, they take theirs and send 199 samples to the next, and so on. It makes so much more sense and is cheaper, faster and safer, to send individual samples, (or packets of multiple samples if this is the case), to each member of the pass. The shipping costs are less, there is less chance of breakage/loss/theft and less chance that one member in line may not "get around" to passing on the rest within a reasonable time, (or at all), and/or be a poor packer/shipper. Either way, each member still has to pay shipping*.

    I've been the unfortunate non-recipient more than once, from another site, where these issues have occurred in the past.

    *Members who are "passing" the larger packet(s) with many samples will pay significantly more in shipping costs than the members near the end of the line that are "passing" on one or two samples to the last members of the group. Conversely, if each sample/sample packet is sent to individuals, the cost is the same for everyone.
    This is precisely why we realized it made more sense to let a little more of that evil $€¥¢£₨₩﷼₮₱₣₤ into the mix, and remove a whole lot of potentially problematic human / snail-mail interactions. And it also means that people can sniff and discuss simultaneously, which is never a bad thing.

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    Default Re: Erik Kormann -- Sample Pass

    Quote Originally Posted by FISS80 View Post
    Thanks a lot RP, and all the mods for allowing the pass to continue! I am sure we are all fully aware of the necessity of rules, the enforcement of said rules, and moderators with good judgement and decision-making abilities with the power to do so.
    Thanks to all of you for your patience, too!

    The fact is, we may need to add a moderator or two to lighten the load - that possibility is also under discussion, and if we go forward, there will be an announcement.

    Yes - rules are a necessity. The thing most people don't realize is how hard people work (particularly stuigi) to deal with fraud, scammers, dead-beats, basic greed, and the down-side of human interactions. The reason you don't hear much about these things is because Stu is very good at stopping things before they rise to the level of people here noticing. Almost anything we allow here can be abused - the more troubling fact is that it inevitably WILL be abused. People don't hear about these things because - well - EVERYBODY deserves privacy - even people who cause or are affected by trouble. Because, in the end, those are all of us.

    The rules are basically defenses that keep epic badness from happening in here, and we have to be very careful when we allow one thing, that it doesn't have consequences elsewhere. I'm learning more about that every day as a mod. It's really, really complicated.

    OK - that's it. Enjoy those Erik Kormann samples!
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    Ha! Red, reading that post reminds me of network/node security! Any and every port/service used for the transfer/sharing of information on a computer or network can and will be used for malicious intent! My job deals specifically with network security so I can certainly understand stuigi's pain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FISS80 View Post
    Ha! Red, reading that post reminds me of network/node security! Any and every port/service used for the transfer/sharing of information on a computer or network can and will be used for malicious intent! My job deals specifically with network security so I can certainly understand stuigi's pain!
    I would say that you have my sympathy, except you guys are actually holding the line at the moment. I'm in application development - OMG - *CRY* - LOL - no comment - "you did WHAT?"

    Seriously, I'm so sorry we're causing you guys all these problems. Here is hoping that 2014 is the year that application security starts making some real progress..... #GOTONOFAIL2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    I would say that you have my sympathy, except you guys are actually holding the line at the moment. I'm in application development - OMG - *CRY* - LOL - no comment - "you did WHAT?"

    Seriously, I'm so sorry we're causing you guys all these problems. Here is hoping that 2014 is the year that application security starts making some real progress..... #GOTONOFAIL2014

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2014/02/gotofail/
    And THIS ^^^^^ is why I keep getting more grey hair!! At first it was just the users but et tu brute?!! Seriously though, I can't fault you programmers and developers, the lines of code involved to access a service or automate a process even using libraries, is mind numbing! For and while loops, arrays, if then statements, and functions are for the birds!! )))))
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    LOL!

    At least we're still telling the computers what to do. There IS that!

    Cheers!
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    Thanks RP! We all really do appreciate the work you mods put in to keep things running. We also appreciate your allowing our pass to continue. As far as I'm concerned, if this thread needs to be moved to the MFD or FFD, that is fine with me. Please feel free to move it as needed. We are just happy we can carry on. If you do move it, I'd vote for MFD as we still have a few more spots to fill and I'd love to include some more fellows.

    By the way all, I've been flat on my back with a vicious flu, but hoping to get back in the saddle and ship all these lovely samples out either tomorrow or Tuesday. Please forgive the delay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danieq View Post
    Thanks RP! We all really do appreciate the work you mods put in to keep things running. We also appreciate your allowing our pass to continue. As far as I'm concerned, if this thread needs to be moved to the MFD or FFD, that is fine with me. Please feel free to move it as needed. We are just happy we can carry on. If you do move it, I'd vote for MFD as we still have a few more spots to fill and I'd love to include some more fellows.

    By the way all, I've been flat on my back with a vicious flu, but hoping to get back in the saddle and ship all these lovely samples out either tomorrow or Tuesday. Please forgive the delay.
    Hope you feel better soon. And just a word of reassurance to everybody - I just checked survival times of flu virus on objects - even if you were still contagious, the virus would be gone before anybody got their package:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6282993
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Hope you feel better soon. And just a word of reassurance to everybody - I just checked survival times of flu virus on objects - even if you were still contagious, the virus would be gone before anybody got their package:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6282993
    Very considerate or you Red! I get sick enough from my son attending daycare! Danieq, I would like to thank you again for this opportunity as well. You truly are an asset to the basenotes community!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    LOL!

    At least we're still telling the computers what to do. There IS that!

    Cheers!
    Well played good sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FISS80 View Post
    Very considerate or you Red! I get sick enough from my son attending daycare! Danieq, I would like to thank you again for this opportunity as well. You truly are an asset to the basenotes community!

    Aw, shucks. Thank you for your kindness. I am happy to be here among so many wonderful people. There are truly an amazing group of kind souls that frequent this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redneck Perfumisto View Post
    Hope you feel better soon. And just a word of reassurance to everybody - I just checked survival times of flu virus on objects - even if you were still contagious, the virus would be gone before anybody got their package:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6282993
    Phew, I was worried there for a minute.
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