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    Default Re: NEW by Kilian Imperial Tea and Sacred Wood

    I just got both of these for free in the mail with french stamps but no return address, wow

    Sacred woods starts cypressy-cedary-incensy with a touch of something minty/eucalyptus?; then quickly declines to the usual 'By Kilian' inoffensive accords, this time very woody-coniferus , fresh and with a touch of powdered milk and a good dose of vetiver; great longevity though close to the skin.
    Still without much (or any at all) sandalwood, it would have potential as a ~70$ designer; but at their price, I'm unimpressed. ***/5

    The tea in Imperial Tea is definitely shy, overwhelmed by some green sharp accord, similar to the wisteria and honeysuckle in Olene by (again) Dyptique; very weak jasmin and less tea... **/5



    Quote Originally Posted by TLS View Post
    You must have purchased on their official site? I got the samples in the mail too.
    The funny thing is, I never did... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_Towers View Post
    I just got both of these for free in the mail with french stamps but no return address, wow

    Sacred woods starts cedary-incensy with a touch of something minty/eucalyptus?, then quickly declines to the usual 'By Kilian' inoffensive accords, this time very woody-coniferus, fresh and with a touch of powdered milk.
    Still without much (or any at all) sandalwood, it would have potential as a ~70$ designer; but at their price, I'm unimpressed. ***/5

    The tea in Imperial Tea is definitely shy, overwhelmed by some green sharp accord, similar to the wisteria and honeysuckle in Olene by (again) Dyptique; very weak jasmin and less tea... **/5
    You must have purchased on their official site? I got the samples in the mail too.

  3. #33

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    Like Brian, I was underwhelmed. I don't like the line very much as it is, but I tried to keep my expectations reasonable. Both are prosaic and uninspiring, but they have some nuances that elevate them a tad. Sacred Wood was a stock synthetic sandalwood that was nicely put together, but offered nothing new. Imperial Tea was instantly forgettable; there was nothing memorable or interesting about it whatsoever. Considering that Calice Becker was behind both of these (a perfumer with chops that go far beyond what these represent), I can only assume that the scent brief called for the most pedestrian product possible. Both genres have been done better elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    Like Brian, I was underwhelmed. I don't like the line very much as it is, but I tried to keep my expectations reasonable. Both are prosaic and uninspiring, but they have some nuances that elevate them a tad. Sacred Wood was a stock synthetic sandalwood that was nicely put together, but offered nothing new. Imperial Tea was instantly forgettable; there was nothing memorable or interesting about it whatsoever. Considering that Calice Becker was behind both of these (a perfumer with chops that go far beyond what these represent), I can only assume that the scent brief called for the most pedestrian product possible. Both genres have done better elsewhere.
    I agree that they are not groundbreaking by any means and that Sacred Wood is somehow more interesting than imperial tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLS View Post
    I agree that they are not groundbreaking by any means and that Sacred Wood is somehow more interesting than imperial tea.
    I think they're good for the brand and sit nicely within the line, but in the grander scheme of things, there's nothing new here. I'd assume that they're catering to a dedicated client base that doesn't step far from the Kilian counter. In this sense, they're wise moves.

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    Pre-meh, then - as expected.

    Will duly try them . . .
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    Default Re: NEW by Kilian Imperial Tea and Sacred Wood

    Quote Originally Posted by mr. reasonable View Post
    Pre-meh, then - as expected.

    Will duly try them . . .
    Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me. *SIGH* Trying, but not going far out of my way.
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    Default Re: NEW by Kilian Imperial Tea and Sacred Wood

    I too received the samples in the mail from By Kilian. I will go against the grain in saying I like both early-on at least as I am wearing one right now on each arm...

    Imperial Tea is a slightly indolic jasmine over calming tea. At first I found it underwhelming, but it actually smells great from a sillage perspective... Nothing groundbreaking for sure, however.

    Sacred Wood is definitely my kind of composition... It has a nice fiery heavily spice-laced sandalwood. I definitely love it, but it resembles a composition from Satellite called Padparadscha. That composition is superior and even more fiery spicy (the way I like 'em)..., costing 1/5 the price. I guess there is no reason to buy Sacred Wood despite my enjoyment wearing it after already owning Padparadscha.
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  10. #40

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    Imperial Tea sounds interesting. Will definitely have to try it.

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    Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about $500 fragrances being underwhelming and costing $400 too much? Sheeeeesh, what does it take to get some interesting fragrances nowadays. Everything is redundant. Yes, I sound jaded, but I feel like anyone that has experienced fragrance of true quality would shun this nonsense and run these brands into the ground. Sorry, but they ARE overcharging you 3-400 dollars. I don't get on here often anymore (probably because I'm pretty bored with most everything coming out) and sorry for the rant. It's just frustrating that when I DO, I immediately hear about these INSANELY priced frags that are not pushing boundaries in the slightest bit. If you're going to charge top dollar for your product, then it needs to be up there with the greats that we all know and love.
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    Two cents; i visited luckyscent recently and kept coming back during my session to sample Imperial Tea. I absolutely love it and purchased it. Its my first venture into teas - im over the moon with the scent 30 minutes after application. Dont find it linear at all. My wife finds it irresistable, which is nice.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwill View Post
    Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about $500 fragrances being underwhelming and costing $400 too much? Sheeeeesh, what does it take to get some interesting fragrances nowadays. Everything is redundant. Yes, I sound jaded, but I feel like anyone that has experienced fragrance of true quality would shun this nonsense and run these brands into the ground. Sorry, but they ARE overcharging you 3-400 dollars. I don't get on here often anymore (probably because I'm pretty bored with most everything coming out) and sorry for the rant. It's just frustrating that when I DO, I immediately hear about these INSANELY priced frags that are not pushing boundaries in the slightest bit. If you're going to charge top dollar for your product, then it needs to be up there with the greats that we all know and love.
    I get where you're coming from, but there are some brands that can and do charge obscene amounts for what they sell—regardless of whether or not the price reflects the product. Kilian has done a good job of cornering a demographic and caters largely to them (safe, straight forward scents that you and I know we could find elsewhere for much less). But their customer doesn't care—they get the service and the fancy packaging. There are a number of lines that do this—many of which have no interest for me whatsoever because they're not innovating; they're simply turning profit by pushes solid, safe stuff.

    There are plenty of places to turn to find new ideas, new concepts, and new approaches. Furthermore, there are people out there making much higher quality stuff for less, so it's just a matter of exploring. Perfumery, for me, is like a number of other subcultures that I've invested myself in. Hunting out the innovators and the genre-pushers is all part of the fun, but it can seem like work at times, especially when a company is successful selling mediocre products for obscene amounts. (I think there are worse cases than Kilian, to be honest, but I just steer clear of that stuff.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince211 View Post
    Its my first venture into teas - im over the moon with the scent 30 minutes after application.
    You know, I've heard that the dry down is exceptional, so maybe this is worth another sniff after all. Also, tea scents are actually quite tricky. I'm sure Kilian uses a healthy mix of naturals and synths, but natural tea materials (such as green tea absolute) are super-fleeting, so props for getting the tea aspect to actually hold up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadidol View Post
    You know, I've heard that the dry down is exceptional, so maybe this is worth another sniff after all. Also, tea scents are actually quite tricky. I'm sure Kilian uses a healthy mix of naturals and synths, but natural tea materials (such as green tea absolute) are super-fleeting, so props for getting the tea aspect to actually hold up!
    I was under the impression Kilian uses no naturals whatsoever. That's what my nose tells me, but of course I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwill View Post
    Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about $500 fragrances being underwhelming and costing $400 too much? Sheeeeesh, what does it take to get some interesting fragrances nowadays.
    You're right - I think most people who do spend 300+ on something they like don't make as much noise as those who are disappointed. There is a lot of junk out there with 'boardroom niche companies' charging silly amounts and trading on some sort of exclusivity or aspirational BS.
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    Nothing made today is any good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran View Post
    Nothing made today is any good.

    As someone whose comments I used to respect a lot, I find your disdain for new fragrances quite funny; maybe you should retire, now that you have confirmed on almost every thread possible that no new release is good?

    Why participate when your view is well known? This I find is no better than the worst trolls here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran View Post
    Nothing made today is any good.
    Quote Originally Posted by badarun View Post
    As someone whose comments I used to respect a lot, I find your disdain for new fragrances quite funny; maybe you should retire, now that you have confirmed on almost every thread possible that no new release is good?

    Why participate when your view is well known? This I find is no better than the worst trolls here...

    lol. But almost as amusing as the trolls (which it really isn't any different)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran View Post
    Nothing made today is any good.
    How old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince211 View Post
    Two cents; i visited luckyscent recently and kept coming back during my session to sample Imperial Tea. I absolutely love it and purchased it. Its my first venture into teas - im over the moon with the scent 30 minutes after application. Dont find it linear at all. My wife finds it irresistable, which is nice.

    Cheers.
    Will try to sample it - has anyone else tried these?

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    I've tried both.

    Both are nice, but, personally, I like Imperial Tea better. I love jasmine tea (I prefer jasmine dragon pearls ), and it is amazing how Calice Becker has managed to convey the balance between the green tea and jasmine flowers' smell. In the beginning I smell mostly the jasmine--which is almost delicate and not really indolic to my nose-- and, later, it seems that the green tea takes over although the jasmine is still on my skin. I like the opening best. It is definitely not a heavy fragrance, but I would not describe it as light, either. I can see how it can become overwhelming if I were to wear this all day. It becomes somewhat monotonous.

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    Thanks for that info., catnip_too - from another jasmine tea drinker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_Towers View Post
    I just got both of these for free in the mail with french stamps but no return address, wow

    Sacred woods starts cypressy-cedary-incensy with a touch of something minty/eucalyptus?; then quickly declines to the usual 'By Kilian' inoffensive accords, this time very woody-coniferus , fresh and with a touch of powdered milk and a good dose of vetiver; great longevity though close to the skin.
    Still without much (or any at all) sandalwood, it would have potential as a ~70$ designer; but at their price, I'm unimpressed. ***/5

    The tea in Imperial Tea is definitely shy, overwhelmed by some green sharp accord, similar to the wisteria and honeysuckle in Olene by (again) Dyptique; very weak jasmin and less tea... **/5




    The funny thing is, I never did... lol
    I just got the samples from France today also and your description is perfect. Sacred Wood is very similar to some designer that I cant place. Maybe Eau de Cartier Essence de Bois? Its something with a lots of chemically cedar and I do get Tam Dao like sandalwood after a few minutes.
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    You are most welcome, lpp! There's nothing like a good cuppa, and jasmine is my favorite floral tea. I've found I can be equally grumpy about perfumes and tea

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwill View Post
    Is anyone else sick and tired of hearing about $500 fragrances being underwhelming and costing $400 too much? Sheeeeesh, what does it take to get some interesting fragrances nowadays. Everything is redundant. Yes, I sound jaded, but I feel like anyone that has experienced fragrance of true quality would shun this nonsense and run these brands into the ground. Sorry, but they ARE overcharging you 3-400 dollars. I don't get on here often anymore (probably because I'm pretty bored with most everything coming out) and sorry for the rant. It's just frustrating that when I DO, I immediately hear about these INSANELY priced frags that are not pushing boundaries in the slightest bit. If you're going to charge top dollar for your product, then it needs to be up there with the greats that we all know and love.

    Like every perfume house, there are good ones, bad ones & fillers.

    Kilian's original series & Arabian night stores are almost all excellent.

    It's the Good Girl Gone Bad & Asian Tales series that are mediocre.
    Other than the two series above, Kilian makes excellent perfumes.

    That said, price can never be used to gauge quality of perfume (composition or ingredients). Price is a tool to capture a certain market segment. Same applies to bottle & box packaging , style & color.
    Even the type of perfume dictates your client, whether it's outlandish & challenging or elegant & traditional.
    If I'm looking for the latter, I'll approach Kilian, for the former seek out other brands.

    It's unfortunate about price but that isn't limited to Kilian our even perfumery only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian_Towers View Post
    I just got both of these for free in the mail with french stamps but no return address, wow

    Sacred woods starts cypressy-cedary-incensy with a touch of something minty/eucalyptus?; then quickly declines to the usual 'By Kilian' inoffensive accords, this time very woody-coniferus , fresh and with a touch of powdered milk and a good dose of vetiver; great longevity though close to the skin.
    Still without much (or any at all) sandalwood, it would have potential as a ~70$ designer; but at their price, I'm unimpressed. ***/5

    The tea in Imperial Tea is definitely shy, overwhelmed by some green sharp accord, similar to the wisteria and honeysuckle in Olene by (again) Dyptique; very weak jasmin and less tea... **/5

    I agree with your description after trying both today! I did not get any Tea in Imperial Tea, I thought it was just another floral composition, I usually like Jasmine notes but this one didn't smell that good and it felt like something that today's Gucci would release!

    Sacred wood started with something earthy and cedary, it reminded me of Tam Dao but with lots of vetiver. It became a skin scent within minutes but then throughout the day I was getting wafts of a nice sandalwoody/cedary scent that again reminded me of Tam Dao or maybe CdG Wonderwood! I tested both on skin and got samples to try them again later!

    By the way I tried another fragrance today that I really liked and thought it was very well done, I'm talking about Acqua di Parma Blu Mediterraneo - Ginepro di Sardegna (what a long name) but a very impressive release from Acqua di Parma!
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    Default Re: NEW by Kilian Imperial Tea and Sacred Wood

    Wearing Imperial Tea and enjoying it quite a bit. It's by no means a "deep" fragrance, but it's airy and wearable. It reminds me of Malmaison; the same tannic tea note, minus the clove, with a dewy sambac jasmine-osmanthus accord suspended over it.

    Overpriced for what it is, but a good fragrance none the less.

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