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  1. #31

    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    The main point of my email was to either A)Get the idea in their heads, because it would be a good idea and B)See if something regarding this is in the works.

    A lot of good, popular, commercially successful fragrances have come out with EDP concentrations. Why not Le Male?

  2. #32

    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    Your best bet to stock up on vintage bottles and forget about it the rejuice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manicboy View Post
    Your best bet to stock up on vintage bottles and forget about it the rejuice.
    Don't mean to derail this thread, but what is the longest estimated time that a well taken care of (stored in dark room, cool even temp) perfume can last? Is there more we can do to preserve them other than what I've mentioned?

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    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    Have no problem with the reformulated version...to answer the OP's question, probably find that most companies will blame the IFRA restrictions vice the company bottom line decision to reformulate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Navyy8 View Post
    Have no problem with the reformulated version...to answer the OP's question, probably find that most companies will blame the IFRA restrictions vice the company bottom line decision to reformulate.
    Very good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kumquat View Post
    No doubt. Giant corporations adore being informed by their customers.
    "Shut up and buy what we offer you, worthless consumer drone."

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    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    Do not bother emailing them back it is a waist of time..
    If you write a heated letter they will not reply at all..

    I have sent about 6 emails and had one replied to once.
    They said they will replace my bottle and then asked what country I lived in and said they were forwarding the email to their agent..
    I have yet to hear from them months later and only get replies from Massimiliano saying he is forwarding my email..
    Their CS is a JOKE!

  8. #38

    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    To answer your question, no they are not gonna make Le Male in perfume strength, just because of one upset customer. Also I don't think Le Male perfume would sell simply because of the label perfume on it. Men who don't know about fragrances associate the word perfume with women, (and cologne with men for that matter), so odds are they will see "Le Male Perfume" and write it off and pass right by it, if I had to guess.

    I don't think the word "perfume" is very profitable amongst men's fragrances (in America). Take La Nuit and L'homme in their perfume concentrations, I don't think their sales did very well. Again we are talking average Joe buyers/browsers, not the connoisseurs like you and I, who go into the store and already know we want the "perfume".

    So it basically comes down to demand and what people want. If people show enough interest, and they see an increase in sale from their already steady sales, then I'd say it's possible. Le Male in its current formula is probably already still strong enough to most consumers, so I don't see it happening.

    Hell I wish it could have happened to Fahrenheit, but unfortunately IRFA has their rules and regulations, and Fahrenheit still sells extremely well. While they may have Fahrenheit "Parfum", we all know it isn't a perfume version of Fahrenheit.
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  9. #39

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    Your shrill cries for quality control will fall on programmed circuitry that will generate you a nice response thanking you for your interest and they'll pass along your concerns, which will ultimately land in oblivion.
    Is the juice worth the squeeze?

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    Its good that you sent that mail to them if more people were like you and bombard the companys with mails maybe we could change something instead of just ranting on forums.

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    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    I have to agree with the poster below. I was recently in my favorite Neiman Marcus, and my SA was helping me find a particular bottle of something and said "well, let's go over to the men's section"....I stopped and said "I thought we were already in the men's section"....but no, I was in the cosmetics department and they have a separate area that is ALL MEN with no perfumes or other cosmetics preset...lol....with pretty much a small selection of male fragrances for the gentlemen who are not secure enough in their masculinity to shop in the "girl's department" -- heavens no

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post
    To answer your question, no they are not gonna make Le Male in perfume strength, just because of one upset customer. Also I don't think Le Male perfume would sell simply because of the label perfume on it. Men who don't know about fragrances associate the word perfume with women, (and cologne with men for that matter), so odds are they will see "Le Male Perfume" and write it off and pass right by it, if I had to guess.

    I don't think the word "perfume" is very profitable amongst men's fragrances (in America). Take La Nuit and L'homme in their perfume concentrations, I don't think their sales did very well. Again we are talking average Joe buyers/browsers, not the connoisseurs like you and I, who go into the store and already know we want the "perfume".

    So it basically comes down to demand and what people want. If people show enough interest, and they see an increase in sale from their already steady sales, then I'd say it's possible. Le Male in its current formula is probably already still strong enough to most consumers, so I don't see it happening.

    Hell I wish it could have happened to Fahrenheit, but unfortunately IRFA has their rules and regulations, and Fahrenheit still sells extremely well. While they may have Fahrenheit "Parfum", we all know it isn't a perfume version of Fahrenheit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexxxy View Post
    Don't mean to derail this thread, but what is the longest estimated time that a well taken care of (stored in dark room, cool even temp) perfume can last? Is there more we can do to preserve them other than what I've mentioned?
    I bought Le Male splash after-shave about 15 years ago and it still smells great.
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  13. #43

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cologneist View Post
    To answer your question, no they are not gonna make Le Male in perfume strength, just because of one upset customer. Also I don't think Le Male perfume would sell simply because of the label perfume on it. Men who don't know about fragrances associate the word perfume with women, (and cologne with men for that matter), so odds are they will see "Le Male Perfume" and write it off and pass right by it, if I had to guess.

    I don't think the word "perfume" is very profitable amongst men's fragrances (in America). Take La Nuit and L'homme in their perfume concentrations, I don't think their sales did very well. Again we are talking average Joe buyers/browsers, not the connoisseurs like you and I, who go into the store and already know we want the "perfume".

    So it basically comes down to demand and what people want. If people show enough interest, and they see an increase in sale from their already steady sales, then I'd say it's possible. Le Male in its current formula is probably already still strong enough to most consumers, so I don't see it happening.

    Hell I wish it could have happened to Fahrenheit, but unfortunately IRFA has their rules and regulations, and Fahrenheit still sells extremely well. While they may have Fahrenheit "Parfum", we all know it isn't a perfume version of Fahrenheit.
    Not all men's EdPs are niche or low-volume. Acqua di Gio Essenza is an Eau de Parfum, SAs market it that way and mention the improved strength aspect, and it sells very well in the US.
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  14. #44

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    Hey Jonny..a huge le male fan here. Reformulated le male is still fantastic IMO. In fact, its better suited for dates now than the original ever was. But for clubbing, the original wins hands down. EdP sounds interesting, but i doubt if it will ever see the light of day.

    On a completely unrelated note, today i bought a vintage Le Male (early 2010, unused) bottle for $35 from a seller here. You jelly yet?

  15. #45

    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    It's almost like a protest, but however in this case only one person showed up.

    By the way the picture you have looks like Le Male Intense , or Le Male Noir

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    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    If nothing else, you voiced your opinion. I, like many, agree that not much will be done. At least you did your part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFfan310 View Post
    Not all men's EdPs are niche or low-volume. Acqua di Gio Essenza is an Eau de Parfum, SAs market it that way and mention the improved strength aspect, and it sells very well in the US.

    I see what you're saying. Although it may be an EDP, it is not marketed as one. What I mean is that, they don't say it in the name when trying to sell it, it's simply Acqua di Gio Essenza. The term "perfume" in men's fragrances is not profitable. A girl I dated who works at Sephora says that L'homme and La Nuit with "Parfum" in their names, sold very poorly, and the L'homme version which is fairly new, is already off their shelves.

    I don't think Le Male, would sell well to the average Joe, with "parfum/perfume" in the name. Especially with it being one of the ultimate Alpha Male fragrances, and having a bottle to appear like a cut male physique. It would never sell as a "perfume".
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  18. #48

    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    They can call it 'L'Absolue Mle'. Problem solved.

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    I'm pessimistic about it. They might reply politely thanking for your interest, that's all, that's my guess.

    edit: oops they replied already
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    Dear Mr. (my last name),

    We are pleased to come back to you regarding your request you made by mail and we thank you for your interest in the Parfums Jean Paul Gaultier.

    We strictly implement the regulations in favour of the development and the insertion of our cosmetic products in the market. In accordance with the European Directive and IFRA codes for fragrances as well as in the interest of improving our products for our consumers, some of our products can be reformulated.

    However, we strive to preserve the olfactory signature of our products if they are reformulated.

    In order to best satisfy your request, we are pleased to suggest you to discover our LE MALE TERRIBLE Eau de Toilette Extrme which is available on the Sephora’s website.

    We wish you a nice trip on jeanpaulgaultier.com.

    Sincerely,

    Massimiliano,
    Consumer Service
    Jean Paul Gaultier Parfums
    Sigh. Really? Le Male Terrible?

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    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    They did take the time to answer which in itself is good. Just not the answer you were probably expecting.
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  22. #52

    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    I do now, however, have a craving to give Le Male Terrible more of a try. I know it is not what I am looking for as far as an intense version of the original, but hey. why not!

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    Default Re: Just sent Jean Paul Gaultier a very firm email. Do you think it will work/is justified?

    My guess is ifra came down on le male in 2011 after news of white musk content was released. Then, 2012 sometime, it became what it is now.

    Le male terrible is only decent, but the best of the other le male flankers.

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