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    Default Two New Amouages Coming - Journey.

    I was just at Osswald Parfumerie this Friday and I heard first hand there will be two new Amouage scents released (that are not part of the Opus series) in less than two months. No official names but can't wait!

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    How much you guys wanna bet they will be way overpriced like Beloved Man and Fate Man were?

    I'm looking forward to them as I love the line, but not at that price point.

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    $380 a bottle is expensive, I agree, but still in the affordable range, especially for a split. They are pretty superior scents. I think Clive Christian, Xerjoff, JAR, Puredistance, and Roja are a little ridiculous at $600-$1000 a bottle.

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    I'm excited! 2 new scents like 1 men's and 1 woman's, or a men's and women's of each making 4 new scents?

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    Yeah, tell me about it! I almost fell on the floor when the SA told me. For anyone going into NYC, Osswald and MiN are the bees knees. The people who work there are so knowledgeable and true scent-alcoholics, not standoffish types who only know about their specific lines and nothing else...ahem Barneys and Bergdorf. Anyway, she told me this as they were closing and we were on our way out, but she had a smile on her face and was very tight lipped. I think even if I would've had more time, she wouldn't have been able to divulge any more info, but I do know they get hooked-up in there. They are really close to the brands they carry. My first impression was one man and one woman's scent. I would bet on that....I mean I'll have to check but I don't remember Chong releasing more than one scent at a time (other than man and woman). You never know though.

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    Good news. Thanks for the info.
    Currently wearing: Memoir Man by Amouage

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    Default Re: Two New Amouages Coming

    Quote Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post
    I'm excited! 2 new scents like 1 men's and 1 woman's, or a men's and women's of each making 4 new scents?
    One Men's and Women's. I am being told the name will be Journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmBeach View Post
    One Men's and Women's. I am being told the name will be Journey.
    Nice work PB, way to get the info I'm impressed....Hopefully my post inspired you to get to the bottom of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indagnacious View Post
    Nice work PB, way to get the info I'm impressed....Hopefully my post inspired you to get to the bottom of it!
    Unfortunately, in the usual Amouage fashion, not much information is available. Probably hear more next month.

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    Just curious, how did you find out it was going to be called Journey? Did you talk to someone at Amouage or an SA? Thanks.

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    I'm kind of hoping they throw us a curveball this time. While I really enjoyed Fate Man, I found it to be a tad prosaic and "easy." Fate Woman, despite garnering interest from folks I pay attention to, did absolutely nothing for me. I'd love to see a scent that's as evocative and striking as Memoir Man.

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    I remember seeing a post on Twitter several months ago with an article where Christopher Chong was talking about drawing on his Chinese Heritage. The notes he mentioned were white florals, vanilla, leather, and Osmanthus.

    I found the link but it's a picture of the magazine so it's very hard to read but I did pick out those notes. It's posting from January 29th.
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    This is exciting news, despite me finding every amouage release after memoir being disappointing...I havent given any of them a proper wearing but their prior releases woild catch my attention immediately.

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    Personally, I would have preferred Amouage taking a year off from releasing anything new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    Personally, I would have preferred Amouage taking a year off from releasing anything new.
    Why? I suppose if you're not happy with Amouage you could take a year off from them and allow the thousands of others who look forward to their releases to have fun with them.
    Last edited by Indagnacious; 25th March 2014 at 11:24 PM.

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    I have not really liked the latest releases after Memoir Man. Interlude, Beloved and Fate have not impressed me but hope does spring eternal in that they will release a stunner that is more to my taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indagnacious View Post
    Why? I suppose if you're not happy with Amouage you could take a year off from them and allow the thousands of others who look forward to their releases have fun with them.
    There are some who feel that the quality has dipped after the Memoir duo.

    Most houses are now releasing fragrances at a frightening rate when, in the past, more time was allowed to develop a composition. This isn't necessarily about what I want but a personal concern that Amouage (and many other houses) are quickly developing spotty portfolios, just because they feel compelled to keep up with the Joneses.

    It should always be about quality over quantity - not the other way round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indagnacious View Post
    Why? I suppose if you're not happy with Amouage you could take a year off from them and allow the thousands of others who look forward to their releases have fun with them.
    Well if you haven't noticed, several people here are pointing the quality drop since memoir, and this is a fragrance forum where educated consumers gather to exchange opinions. If we are going have the mentality of "if you don't like it then don't use it, and keep your opinion to yourself" then this board would be a pointless exercise.

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    I don't know. I don't think you can put a timeline on creativity and Chong doesn't seem like the type to release something just to release it. Maybe the compositions aren't the way some would like, but the raw materials are there. Interlude Man is amazing, Fate Woman is a five star fragrance (Turin - Style Arabia). Not that LT is the end all be all, but he's been around. One Opus and one or two Man/Woman scents a year doesn't seem excessive to me. Tom Ford, Kilian, Montale, etc... yes that is excessive. I believe living up to an incredible past is a good problem to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PalmBeach View Post
    One Men's and Women's. I am being told the name will be Journey.
    Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekove View Post
    Well if you haven't noticed, several people here are pointing the quality drop since memoir, and this is a fragrance forum where educated consumers gather to exchange opinions. If we are going have the mentality of "if you don't like it then don't use it, and keep your opinion to yourself" then this board would be a pointless exercise.
    Well why would you ever want to use something you didn't like? Telling a creative perfume director or perfumer to stop putting out releases because you don't like them not only seems like a backwards way of going about it, but it's pretty pretentious. I never said for him to keep his opinions to himself, I just said he shouldn't pay attention to them if he isn't into them. So what's up with that?

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    Cool. I'll most likely pick up some samples if available.
    Currently wearing: Nero by Mazzolari

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    Default Re: Two New Amouages Coming

    We're all allowed to have our opinions. I am another who has not found the newer releases as compelling as some of the older ones, and it's a frequent topic of discussion here and elsewhere that it's quite possible for any creative to become stretched when expected to have a certain volume of output, because the industry's pace has increased, whether the industry in question is perfume, fashion or music... or countless others.

    For any of us to wish Chong would take more time for development and creative R&R is not an attack on the man, the house, or anyone, really. It's a wish for continued high quality creations... even if they are not as frequent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indagnacious View Post
    Well why would you ever want to use something you didn't like? Telling a creative perfume director or perfumer to stop putting out releases because you don't like them not only seems like a backwards way of going about it, but it's pretty pretentious. I never said for him to keep his opinions to himself, I just said he shouldn't pay attention to them if he isn't into them. So what's up with that?
    I didn't say I would wear them if I didn't like them or something, nor did the posters who criticized the last releases before me. Also, telling a director or perfumers to reconsider his latest releases is very valid feedback if put elaborately; constructive criticism is in no way pretentious or a step backward.

    Also, we who don't like amouage latest releases but pay attention to them do so because we are fans of the house.

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    "How time flies. It seems only yesterday (actually five full years) that Christopher Chong took over Amouage’s art direction and propelled this Omani firm, then known chiefly for its classic no-expense-spared Gold, into the first rank of perfumery. Chong is that rare bird, a natural perfumery art-director, who knows what he wants and will not give up until he finally smells it." Turin

    This does not seem like a man who is churning and burning outputs just to do it regardless of what the "Basenotes masses" thinks or believes. Chong knows more about creating perfumes than anyone on this board times ten. I have to question someone who tells someone with more knowledge and expertise who is putting out some of the best perfumes like Interlude Man and Fate Woman to do anything whatsoever. I did not say anywhere to anyone that they could not have their opinions. Now are you going to try to put words in my mouth again that weren't there to begin with Evoke or what? This is where problems occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indagnacious View Post
    "How time flies. It seems only yesterday (actually five full years) that Christopher Chong took over Amouage’s art direction and propelled this Omani firm, then known chiefly for its classic no-expense-spared Gold, into the first rank of perfumery. Chong is that rare bird, a natural perfumery art-director, who knows what he wants and will not give up until he finally smells it." Turin

    This does not seem like a man who is churning and burning outputs just to do it regardless of what the "Basenotes masses" thinks or believes. Chong knows more about creating perfumes than anyone on this board times ten. I have to question someone who tells someone with more knowledge and expertise who is putting out some of the best perfumes like Interlude Man and Fate Woman to do anything whatsoever. I did not say anywhere to anyone that they could not have their opinions. Now are you going to try to put words in my mouth again that weren't there to begin with Evoke or what? This is where problems occur.
    Who cares what Turin says! That's his opinion. Nothing he says is canon, like any other fragrance writer or reviewer.

    If you don't like other Basenoters having opinions about fragrances, as well as how houses and perfumers operate within the perfume industry, maybe you shouldn't be here.

    "I have to question someone who tells someone with more knowledge and expertise..."

    Everyone, we've been rumbled! Time to close shop! The Basenotes forum is no more!

    *sheds tears*
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    Fate Woman and Interlude Man are excellent. Memoir Man, too. It's true that people are making a hell of a lot more of them than they need to, but I'm always looking forward to Amouage fragrances that aren't part of the Opus line (which, while still good, mainly feel like interesting rejects with simple or confused compositions).

    Edit: Good as they are, none of them really compare with a great oriental like Balenciaga pour Homme. Fate Woman is no Opium but it is great on the right day. Gold Woman and Gold Man are still the the best things to ever come from this house. Rethinking it tonight my favorite modern Amouage must be Memoir Man, and Memoir Man sure as hell isn't a Balenciaga pour Homme. Not too far away, though, especially considering it was made during the time of IFRA regulations. What a load of crap that all is. None of the idiots on this will ever write the perfume houses, aromachemical companies. They just want to know if the thing is masculine enough to wear, gets compliments, and the girls like it ! Really have to wonder about most men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pluran View Post
    Fate Woman and Interlude Man are excellent. Memoir Man, too. It's true that people are making a hell of a lot more than they need to, but I'm always looking forward to Amouage fragrances that aren't part of the Opus line.
    Ahhh, a man who is making some sense. Bless you pluran.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indagnacious View Post
    "How time flies. It seems only yesterday (actually five full years) that Christopher Chong took over Amouage’s art direction and propelled this Omani firm, then known chiefly for its classic no-expense-spared Gold, into the first rank of perfumery. Chong is that rare bird, a natural perfumery art-director, who knows what he wants and will not give up until he finally smells it." Turin

    This does not seem like a man who is churning and burning outputs just to do it regardless of what the "Basenotes masses" thinks or believes. Chong knows more about creating perfumes than anyone on this board times ten. I have to question someone who tells someone with more knowledge and expertise who is putting out some of the best perfumes like Interlude Man and Fate Woman to do anything whatsoever. I did not say anywhere to anyone that they could not have their opinions. Now are you going to try to put words in my mouth again that weren't there to begin with Evoke or what? This is where problems occur.
    Nobody is putting words in your mouth, your attitude is that of not accepting negative feedback and discouraging such posters from posting on your thread. I love your condescending "basenotes masses" expression; anymore cliche expression you want to use to undermine the opinions of those who disagree with you?

    And nobody is telling Chong what to do, it is a metaphorical expression of disappointment. You do not even know the knowledge and expertise of anyone on basenotes, nor do you know the extent of Chong's perfume expertise and that's a discussion of its' own. Nobody her claimed to have more expertise than Chong. At the end of the day, perfumes are about tastes, and while some tastes are more elaborate than others, it's still subjective. A lot of very knowledgeable people on these boards do not like the direction amouage has taken and they are voicing it. This is what these boards are for, and it's ridiculous to remind someone who has negative feedback that in theory they have less expertise than a perfumer or director thus they should not be making hypothetical suggestions.

    Also, while I find Turin to be a very entertaining writer and quit a knowledgable person, he is far from the best reviewer and his book is full of bias...So stop quoting his blog or book like its' some kind of scripture.

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    You're hilarious bro. I'm not even sure what you said but it's good. Did you know a metaphor is a term that uses the words like or as in a sentence? In the original statement by Trebor: "Personally, I would have preferred Amouage taking a year off from releasing anything new."
    ...where do you find this? This is not a metaphor. Maybe what you're trying unsuccessfully to do is back track and say he was just using this as a figure of speech? Also while we're at it, a "hypothetical suggestion" would go something like: "suppose Amouage would stop putting out a fragrance for a year, I wonder what would happen?" No one is using hypotheticals. The only person that really seems to be confused as to what is going on is you. Not only are you haphazardly throwing out terms to which you don't understand, but you make false claims about what others have said. Nowhere on here did I ever tell anyone they could not express their opinion. I challenged them to back up their statement but I didn't say they couldn't have one. Finally, when one of the most consummate online retailers in their own write-up uses a quote from Turin to sell their products: http://www.luckyscent.com/product/41...man-by-amouage, I hardly believe it is just me who values his opinion. Maybe you should write to them and tell them to stop using his quotes as well?

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