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    Keep 'em coming!

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    Great review thanks, Claire - looking forward to hearing your impressions of the others (which are all the new extrait versions).
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    Fab review Clare - glad you're enjoying the line so far. I'm a huge fan, myself.
    Look forward to your thoughts on the other samples!

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    Thanks guys! Well, today it is the turn of Ore!

    This is a review of the newer Ore extrait version – thank you Ipp for this generous sample and for letting me know which version it was that I am testing! Well, this is an interesting one. I have had to put it on several times over the past couple of days just to get an accurate read. I have to say upfront that this is not really my kind of thing. There are aspects of it that I do like and appreciate, and aspects that prevent me from completely enjoying it.

    Let’s start with the things I liked first. The thing I appreciate most about this perfume is that it has layers and layers of textures that seem to shift back and forth. It is noticeably dusty and chalky up top, smelling like raw cocoa powder to my nose, but simultaneously I notice a balsamic, creamy texture underneath. The textures seem to shift and morph under your nose – at times, it is purely dry and earthy, at others, it is purely waxy and creamy. This interplay of textures keeps things interesting.

    Also, smelling this blind the first time, I thought I could smell a very interesting note of either leather or wood that has been massaged with a wax or oil. It kind of felt like an old library where the ancient furniture and books have been lovingly taken care of over the course of years and years. Again, it was probably that strange interplay of dust, earth, wax, and oil creating that impression. But once I had read the notes for Ore, strangely enough, I didn’t get the waxed leather or wood impression on any of my subsequent wearings.

    Either way, that brings me to the other strong point I see in Ore, which is its extraordinary balance between gourmand notes and non-gourmand notes. It is creamy and comforting, but not edible. Certainly, it is not sweet. I appreciate that.

    Now to the aspects of this that I don’t quite warm to. First off, although the dusty cocoa notes are unsweetened, they are also not dark. What I mean to say is that I get a milk chocolate vibe to this, not the good, dark, expensive stuff. If I am going to enjoy chocolate in a scent, then it has to be the black, bitter kind (like the one in Coze) that plays up the adults-only edge, or else a creamy, powdery presence that is there only to provide a textural contrast to the damp earthiness of patchouli (like in Coromandel). Here, the milk chocolate note is not really balanced by anything bitter or earthy. Instead, the inherent waxiness of milk chocolate is somehow matched by the waxiness or oiliness of the balsamic woods underneath, so there is nothing to really punctuate the sea of bland, creaminess.

    Also, there’s a bit of an “off” quality to the chocolate note here. What this type of chocolate note most reminds me of is a bar of milk chocolate that has spoiled, perhaps in the heat, perhaps from being abandoned down the back of the sofa for too long – but when you open the wrapper, the edges of the chocolate has gone all grey-white and chalky. If you’ve ever put such a sorry-looking bar of chocolate in your mouth to taste (don’t judge!) then you will understand what I mean when I say that it is, all at once, dusty, stale, chewy, waxy, and yet, somewhere lurking underneath, there is a glimpse of the true taste of the original chocolate. Needless to say, the payoff is meager reward enough for trouncing through all that ephemera.

    Maybe my lack of admiration for this, though, has more to do with the fact that I don’t love the smell of cocoa butter than anything else. If that is true, then forgive me and take my opinion with a pinch of salt (salt! Yes, that’s what this could do with, a big hit of sea salt or crunchy seaweed…or something!). I do find that Ore dries down to a rather simple, creamy, flat smell reminiscent of plain old Palmer’s Cocoa Butter. If that is something you like, then this will really hit all of your pleasure points. Personally, the smell of Palmer’s Cocoa Butter reminds me of being hugely pregnant last summer and having to rub tonnes of that greasy stuff over my big ole belly twice a day. So the smell of cocoa butter scented anything acts as a sort of unpleasant Proustian madeleine, conjuring up images of chafing thighs, waddling, and generally being unable to get out of a chair unless yanked up by the arm.

    So, in general, a very long-lasting cocoa scent, semi-gourmand, brilliant use of different textures, and I can see how this might be very comforting, but ultimately not for me!
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    Fascinating review, Claire - thanks.
    Just added some of that cocoa butter stuff to my grocery order...
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    Interesting reviews!

    I just have one question about Kere. Is it an immortelle fragrance or a fragrance using other notes to emulate immortelle? There appears to be conflicting information about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    Interesting reviews!

    I just have one question about Kere. Is it an immortelle fragrance or a fragrance using other notes to emulate immortelle? There appears to be conflicting information about it.
    Can't say for sure, but it really reads as immortelle to me. Strong as hell! It gives the original formulation of Sables a run for its money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post
    Can't say for sure, but it really reads as immortelle to me. Strong as hell! It gives the original formulation of Sables a run for its money.
    Hmm, from what I recall of my sample of Kere it was a saccharine sweet take on caramel and nuts mainly. Definitely gourmand-like. I can't say I recall immortelle, but it's been ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    Hmm, from what I recall of my sample of Kere it was a saccharine sweet take on caramel and nuts mainly. Definitely gourmand-like. I can't say I recall immortelle, but it's been ages.
    Yea. Idk if it's actually in there, but it sure smells like it. I think there are a couple different formulations of this scent, so what you've tried could be different than what's in the sample pass.

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    Thanks.
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    It appears from post #146 that remik is dealing with this.
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    Thanks for the update, remik
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    Quote Originally Posted by remik View Post
    KBF1972 just PM'd me yesterday that the samples have been mailed.... Aug.2... So I should be getting them this coming week. It's been a looooooong wait.
    Fingers crossed!

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    Ok, guys, I would like to give you my thoughts on Zahd today. Sorry there are such long gaps between my reviews, but in general, I am having to test and re-test the Slumberhouse samples in order to get a handle on what I am smelling. They sure are complex, and not very easy to pass judgement on based on one wearing or a quick sniff, which I am probably guilty of half the time! Once again, thank you, Ipp, for providing me with the samples! I am really enjoying the process of making my way through them one at a time. I know Zahd is a particular favorite of yours (and of Danieq's, if she is still following this thread), but I have to say that I really didn't like this one at all. Oh well, more for you guys....(and lucky, since it is a limited edition, correct?)

    I have given this one a few tries now, just to be fair, but now I feel comfortable in saying that Zahd is definitely not something I would ever wear. It opens on an almost offensively tarry, sticky note, like grape jam sizzling on a hot plate, or the spillage from a can of Cherry Coke that has dried on a bench. There is a dense “black” smell to the opening notes that I recognize from Norne, and it strikes me that all of the Slumberhouse offerings I have tried so far have this super-concentrated, tarry opening that feels ugly, pungent, and crowded. That leads me to conclude that none of these perfumes have traditional “curb appeal” and wouldn’t do well in department stores, where consumers make their choices based on the first few minutes of a scent. No, Slumberhouse stuff is strictly for die-hard perfume aficionados who have the patience to wait until the heart notes reveal themselves.

    I have also noticed that while longevity is immense with Slumberhouse, in terms of sillage and concentration, the scents themselves tend to be very top-heavy, with the top of the scent packed to bursting with notes, and the rest of the scent thinning down considerably thereafter.

    True to form, once the brutal opening loosens up and dissipates somewhat, Zahd gets much better. Well, more bearable, at least. The smell is very red and fruity – the notes say cranberry, which makes sense, because of that sweet-sour balance, but I also get grape and cherry aspects. It is simultaneously tart and sweet at first, but the scent soon sheds the sour accents and becomes ever more syrupy. At this point, it smells both tooth-achingly sweet and medicinal, like cherry cough syrup. It is a “cure-for-what-ails-you” type of smell, and one that will surely bring back slightly nauseous memories to anyone who has struggled through colds and coughs as a child.

    It dries down to a base similar to the one in Ore – all creamy cocoa and beige woods. After the Bollywood explosion of notes in the top notes, the general drift towards these blond, creamy accents provides relief, like stepping into the darkened doorway off the side of an over-crowded souk. This is the bit I liked the best about Zahd, and if there was some way to get me here quicker, I’d take it. Mind you, since the base is strikingly similar to Ore, maybe I should give that one another try.
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    I agree, Claire. I think with Zahd ​Nag Champa is the over-the-top note that kills it for me.

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    True to form, once the brutal opening loosens up and dissipates somewhat, Zahd gets much better. Well, more bearable, at least. The smell is very red and fruity – the notes say cranberry, which makes sense, because of that sweet-sour balance, but I also get grape and cherry aspects. It is simultaneously tart and sweet at first, but the scent soon sheds the sour accents and becomes ever more syrupy. At this point, it smells both tooth-achingly sweet and medicinal, like cherry cough syrup. It is a “cure-for-what-ails-you” type of smell, and one that will surely bring back slightly nauseous memories to anyone who has struggled through colds and coughs as a child.

    It dries down to a base similar to the one in Ore – all creamy cocoa and beige woods. After the Bollywood explosion of notes in the top notes, the general drift towards these blond, creamy accents provides relief, like stepping into the darkened doorway off the side of an over-crowded souk. This is the bit I liked the best about Zahd, and if there was some way to get me here quicker, I’d take it. Mind you, since the base is strikingly similar to Ore, maybe I should give that one another try.
    Agreed. Glad to see Basenotes are realizing Zahd isn't the "GLORY FRAGRANCE" the hype made it seem. It's cherry medicine in a perfume.

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    Yup, all the more Zahd for me - although the Palmer's (sadly) doesn't smell anything like Ore to me at any stage
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    IDK, maybe it's just my nose or my close proximity to where cranberries are grown, but I get no cherry in Zahd, just cranberry.

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    Me neither - adore cherries 'though
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    Ha ha Claire, indeed, more Zahd for Lpp and I! I very much enjoyed reading your reviews thus far though! Your review of Norne makes me anxious to try it more thoroughly. I've sniffed it, but not really given it a chance. I find I have a love/hate thing with forest scents.

    Interestingly, the scent which most reminds of an actual forest is Arquiste Anima Dulcis, which really should not remind of a forest at all, but when I visit the Pacific Northwest forests, that is exactly what I get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OctaVariuM View Post
    IDK, maybe it's just my nose or my close proximity to where cranberries are grown, but I get no cherry in Zahd, just cranberry.

    I'm with you OctaVariuM, I don't get even a hint of Cherry, or grape for that matter. For me, it's a waxy Cranberry which reminds me of Christmas. When I first tested it, I didn't think I'd end up liking it, but in time it's become a real favorite of mine and my hubby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danieq View Post
    I'm with you OctaVariuM, I don't get even a hint of Cherry, or grape for that matter. For me, it's a waxy Cranberry which reminds me of Christmas. When I first tested it, I didn't think I'd end up liking it, but in time it's become a real favorite of mine and my hubby.
    Hi Danieq and OctaVarium,

    The thing I can think to explain why I am getting cherries (and nobody else seems to be) is that I grew up in a country that wasn't at all familiar with cranberries. In fact, I don't think I ever saw a cranberry, be it fresh or dried, in Ireland until after 2000. So, I think my brain simply defaults to the nearest thing it can think of which is a cherry. Not similar, I agree, but there is a slight tart-sweet quality to both. Cherry notes in perfumes are, for me, a long way removed from the fresh fruit itself, because they mainly use the cherry pit as the note, which smells and tastes like bitter almonds. I'd imagine that fresh cranberries are more like the fresh flesh of a cherry, rather than the cherry pit smell (although considerably more sour). I don't know for sure, because I have only ever experienced cranberries in dried, candied form, the fresh version being extremely rare in my part of the world (I understand that their growing conditions are very specific and can only be grown where all the conditions for their cultivation are met).

    It does seem that Zahd solicits strong opinions for and against - honestly, I hadn't read anything about it, and didn't know that it could be viewed as a divisive perfume. I only saw, after I posted my thoughts, that people either really love Zahd or really hate it. So, I hope I didn't offend or upset anyone in posting my review. I only wanted to say that Zahd is not to my personal taste, but I certainly wouldn't use a word as strong as "hate".
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    Ok, guys, here are my thoughts on Sova! Boy, I really loved this one! Once again, thank you to the lovely Ipp for the sample. I really appreciate it, because I would not otherwise have the chance to try Slumberhouse out at all.

    Oh my word, this is beautiful. Well, let me qualify that a bit – none of the Slumberhouse perfumes are conventionally attractive. But this one at least tempers the ugly/weird elements with the breathtakingly beautiful. This is the fourth Slumberhouse I’ve tested, but the first to really catch at my heart strings. I am still not sure that it is entirely wearable. But I sure would like a vial of this to sniff every now and then, just to remind myself that there are perfumers out there doing wild and crazy stuff in the name of art.

    What I like about Sova is that Josh Lobb seems to have set out to capture the entirety of a farm during baling season, complete with the not-so-picturesque parts. As anyone who has grown up doing farm work will know, there are a host of smells involved, and not all of them pleasant. I have baled hay – back-breaking work, by the way, with or without a machine. I have mucked out horse stables. I have even stuck my hands deep within the nether regions of sheep to pull a lamb out. Nowhere are you more intensely aware of the circle of life than on a farm.

    The opening, which I have come to understand as typical for a Slumberhouse, is deeply tarry, black, and sticky. But upfront, I get a load of hay absolute mixed in with the tar, so there is an immediate sense of sunshine piercing through the upper notes. It smells simultaneously of freshly-poured asphalt, hay, trampled grass, rubber tires, something green and resiny, waxy and honeyed.

    The hot asphalt smell reminds me of nothing so much as those pools of poured tar on holes in the road that would always soften and almost liquefy somewhat in the heat of summer – I hope someone out there understands what I mean by that. In Ireland, growing up, there was maybe one day in the year that was ever hot enough to make the road tar all gooey like that, but that would be the smell that defined the whole summer for me, somehow – kind of like a child only ever remembers summers being sunny when he or she was a child. It also recalls the smell of heated hires and running tractors, farm implements lying around on a hot day – quasi-industrial smells mingling with the sweet smell of hay that has been cut and is now drying out in the fields. Also, I am picking up on a sweet, grassy note that is fresher than the hay note – I presume this is the clover.

    Reversing what I've experienced thus far with Slumberhouse perfumes, Sova does not grow drier and more sparse, but indeed, darker, more syrupy, and somehow more “stewed” in texture. It is a very wet hay type of smell, which to my nose, is incredibly pleasing and sensual. The smell is almost like the gingerbread, dry, fruity, wet-dry smell of tobacco leaves laid out to dry in the sunshine. It also picks up a dried fruits feel, not a million miles away from the intense fruitcake feel of a Serge Lutens, specifically something like Arabie.

    As the scent progresses, the petroleum and tar notes, the heated asphalt and running farm vehicles smell –all shift to the back and let the stewed hay and dried fruits accord take center stage. Towards the last stages of Sova, I sense the tar notes get drier, until they manifest more as a smoke note, adding to the fierce pleasure I get from smelling this. Something about hay and grass notes bring me straight back to summer days, to my youth, to the simple pleasures of hard physical work, and the rewards of sensory delights of rolling around in cut hay (with or without someone else – it’s a pleasure in and of itself).

    I really love Sova. I wish I could find it somewhere to buy. Something tells me that this would be horrendously expensive to buy, though, even if I were to find it somewhere. So, I guess I will be content to keep this little vial (if IPP allows) and take it out for a little sniff every now and then. Sova is a wild ride, alright, a bit more intense and crazy than the other Slumberhouse scents I have tried thus far, but it manages to press all of my pleasure and memory buttons at once.
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    Glad you're enjoying Sova, Claire - they're yours to keep
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    Quote Originally Posted by lpp View Post
    Glad you're enjoying Sova, Claire - they're yours to keep
    Aw, thanks Ipp! I am in love with Sova - it just keeps getting better and better on my skin.
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    The hot asphalt smell reminds me of nothing so much as those pools of poured tar on holes in the road that would always soften and almost liquefy somewhat in the heat of summer – I hope someone out there understands what I mean by that.
    I know exactly what you mean! And your description of saying the perfume "stews" is great. I recently sold a bottle on here, hated to see it go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noideawhatimsaying View Post
    I know exactly what you mean! And your description of saying the perfume "stews" is great. I recently sold a bottle on here, hated to see it go.
    Hi Noideawhatimsaying (great name by the way!),

    Thanks! Do you mind me asking, why did you sell your bottle? I am trying to get clues as to whether Sova is wearable out in the real world.
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    I don't see why not. Sova didn't really fit me well - a single note really bothered me and gave me migraines unfortunately. But, it is a beautiful scent. I think the key with Slumberhouse is how you wear them personally. They're so potent, I typically spray the back of my hand, dab together a few times....and dab my neck w/ the back of my hand as well....all w/ 1 big spray on the old bottles...sometimes 2 sprays w/ the newer bottles as the head of the atomizer has more control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaireV View Post
    Hi Noideawhatimsaying (great name by the way!),

    Thanks! Do you mind me asking, why did you sell your bottle? I am trying to get clues as to whether Sova is wearable out in the real world.
    Thanks

    From my experience, and this is coming from a fan of the Fall, horror movies, haunted attractions, etc - it isn't wearable. While fully representative of the season, it's too pungent and offends many quite easily. I feel it's very appealing, but you have to LOVE its ingredients, and it's more appropriate of something to smell while walking into an area rather than have the smell come from you.

    Claire, have you had a chance to smell Baque?

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