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    Default Re: complaining about longevity

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol invictus View Post
    I find it strange when people, who will happily pay £200+ for a bottle of cologne, complain about longevity of a £50 fragrance.
    If you can afford a £200 frag, you can afford to re-apply a £50 frag. Re-apply with abandon would be my advice to these people. I just don't understand how their complaints are valid for the most part.

    What do you think?
    Just to answer this original question, I would say drawing a comparison between price and longevity is just wrong and phrasing it in a way that somehow suggests a $ 200 perfume should last longer than a $ 50 perfume is, frankly, madness

    There are plenty of inexpensive aromachemicals that can be thrown into a composition to extend the life of the thing and they are used by companies across the industry spectrum - 'cheap' mainstream and 'expensive niche'.

    Frankly, using price as any sort of guide to what is actually in the bottle is a risky proposition - you need to look at a lot of factors* and then draw your own conclusions based on the juice in the bottle and sometimes (not always) on the brand profile.

    *Some questions worth asking yourself, as they affect price.

    Does the brand use 'standardised' bottle design or create special bottles for individual perfumes?
    Does the brand advertise? Print? Posters? TV? Cinema?
    Does the brand 'profile' the perfumer or just shop the work out to one of the majors and then slam 'a story' on it?
    What sort of distribution does the brand have?
    And last, but not least, what is actually in the bottle? It is a lot easier now to get information online from serious reviewers and industry sources, or at least make an informed deduction about what has gone into the perfume based on where a company sources materials.
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  2. #32

    Default Re: complaining about longevity

    Where is the op? Nearly 2 weeks and 30 replies later, do you understand the relationship between cost and longevity better now?

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    Default Re: complaining about longevity

    Cost has nothing to do with longevity, nor a hell of a lot else. As mr reasonable said, there are plenty of cheap and plentiful longevity giving aromachemicals used in fragrances of all kinds, regardless of price.There are plenty of expensive niches that don't last, plenty of mainstream that do, and vice versa. There have been a hell of a lot of fragrances made over the last hundred years. Most people here haven't smelled 3% of them. They just think expensive is better. They're "...seduced by beautiful bottles and boxes, high price tags, exclusivity, lush official descriptions, and promises..." and the deep pockets behind a lot of the niche enterprises know it. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JiveHippo View Post
    Where is the op? Nearly 2 weeks and 30 replies later, do you understand the relationship between cost and longevity better now?
    I never said there was a relationship between cost and longevity. Some people haven't understood the point I was making.
    Some cheapies have great longevity, some expensive ones have poor longevity: I know that.

    I'm talking about the following scenario:

    Member x - "I love the smell of D&G The one, but longevity sucks so I haven't bought it. I've just bought Mona di Orio Oud"

    Why deprive yourself of a cheap frag you like because of poor longevity when you're not short of cash and can afford to get through a bottle quicker through re-applying?

    Some people say they don't like or want to re-apply, if that's the case, stay away from eau de toilletes, and stick with EDPs or pure parfums; There's a reason it cotains the word toilette: It's where you go to freshen up. i.e. re-apply.

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    There's people that understand projection and longevity and people that do not. Go with what the majority of people are experiencing with the fragrance. I've been guilty of this myself because I test a fragrance and my nose might not be as sharp that day. Testing it again I get what others are experiencing. I find 2+ hours of decent projection and 6 hours of longevity is acceptable. Someone else might think a fragrance should last 12 hours so they base everything around that. Then you have the people that say it lasts 20 minutes and then it's gone. I also agree about the comment that people can become anosmic by spraying too much or in the wrong spots.
    Last edited by silentrich; 14th May 2014 at 03:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kybid View Post
    Solution to poor longevity: Stop killing your nose by spraying on 72 sprays (believe me, no one around you thinks that your frag has poor longevity, they are actually praying that it will stop), give your nose a MUCH needed break, go back to spraying one or two sprays, and, bingo you can smell your fragrance again...and you'll realize that it actually DOES last a lot longer than you initially thought now that your nose isn't going into panic mode because it is being bombarded by extremely intense smells from every angle for so long.

    I really do think that people either want their frags to project to the neighboring country, or they want them to last until 2015 by spraying the whole bottle on because they think it's too weak. I smell almost all of my frags almost all day long...even the "poor" longevity one's and I just spray one or two sprays...and I know it can't be just a skin chemistry thing. Do I smell all of them very strongly all day, no, not all of them, but that's ok people, you don't need to have a scent bubble with a radius of 17 miles to consider a frag to have great longevity and projection. Stop over applying and stop killing your nose and you'll see what I mean.

    I'm really meaning this tongue in cheek...I'm not being all passionate, and I'm definitely exaggerating, but I think my point is made. Are there stronger frags than others, yes, are there frags that last 10 minutes and then "poof they're gone" heck no...all frags are going to last at least a couple of hours, even though I, personally haven't found one yet...every frag I have smelled has lasted at least 4 hours, every single one of them, most last 6-8, and a few others 10-14, so I have a tough time believing the reviews that say that frags are gone after a few minutes...I think those people need to go get their noses checked or something.

    This might be tongue in cheek but I agree completely. I never spray more than 4 sprays and usually only spray twice with 85% of my collection. I am known for smelling good. No one runs away from me and I never have to reapply. I usually wear one fragrance in the morning and a different one in the evening. I don't want to smell the same for 48 hours. I don't need that type of longevity.
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    Default Re: complaining about longevity

    It's not about the cost of reapplying. It's about the convenience. Who wants to walk around with a decant or bottle all day so they can reapply later? Or who can even remember to bring one? Not me.


    But anyway, I think longevity complaints are blown out of proportion. Give me 6 to 8 hours and I'm good to go. Even 5 is acceptable for lighter city's based fragrances. But there are many whose first comment is about longevity. "I love this one....it's got great longevity!"Or how many posts have you seen "Give me something with great longevity!" Really? How about something that smells good first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol invictus View Post
    I never said there was a relationship between cost and longevity. Some people haven't understood the point I was making.
    Some cheapies have great longevity, some expensive ones have poor longevity: I know that.

    I'm talking about the following scenario:

    Member x - "I love the smell of D&G The one, but longevity sucks so I haven't bought it. I've just bought Mona di Orio Oud"

    Why deprive yourself of a cheap frag you like because of poor longevity when you're not short of cash and can afford to get through a bottle quicker through re-applying?

    Some people say they don't like or want to re-apply, if that's the case, stay away from eau de toilletes, and stick with EDPs or pure parfums; There's a reason it cotains the word toilette: It's where you go to freshen up. i.e. re-apply.
    I agree. Almost everyone that talked about the comparison between price and longevity missed the OPs point. He basically said, if you can afford a $500 frag then you should be able to respray a $50 frag at will if it has poor performance.

    About longevity though, I fall into the camp that wants the scent to last most, if not all day, regardless of how much it costs. I wear fragrances for me mostly so I just want to be able to catch whiffs of them throughout the day. I don't need the 5 mile scent bubble. That said, when I buy FBs, performance is a huge factor for me. If I like a frag but it doesn't perform well after extensive testing, then I search for a similar alternative that does.

    I have also learned that absolutley, SOMETIMES less is more. (6 sprays-couldn't smell it a short while later, 2 sprays-lasted most of the day.)

    I also agree that for a lot people re applying is not so convenient. (carrying atomizer, the initial strong burst, perfume development/drydown)

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