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    Default Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    I haven't heard much about the new Aedes scent (it's their third fragrance, not including that L'Artisan collaboration), but this morning Robin from Now Smell This posted a review of it. Sounds great.

    Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas is a Oriental fragrance for women and men. The nose behind this fragrance is Rodrigo Flores-Roux. Top notes are turmeric, cinnamon, black pepper, cardamom, cloves and saffron; middle notes are rose, white pepper, strawberry and floral notes; base notes are vanilla, tolu balsam, benzoin and labdanum.
    In her review she calls is a carnation/incense scent. Which sounds fantastic to me.

    I am not sure of it's release date.

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    Certainly sounds interesting. Bottle is very unique.
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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    My interest was peaked when I first read about this on Fragrantica and it is on my list to try on my upcoming trip to NYC.
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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    It's on my radar also. Sounds great.
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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    To be released mid-June.

    From some of the early reviews, people are saying this is their best one yet.

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    Oh -- can't wait for this one

    Their rhubarb fragrance was fantastic

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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    The perfumer does good incense, DKNY Black Cashmere is one of those early incense scents that really dazzled everyone before incense became so popular.
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    Thanks for the info. - another one to try

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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

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    Looks like a good one. Will have to sample when released.

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    I love marigold fragrances.

    I am guessing the perfume tries to capture the smell of temple incense and marigolds in Bengal.

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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    I ordered a decant a month ago! On paper, it should be terrific!

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    Based on notes & intended experience, this has huge potential.

    Hopefully it's not like iris nazarene.

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    I wonder how the turmeric is worked in. Too much curry will turn me away. I could not deal with PdE Fougere Bengale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primrose View Post
    I wonder how the turmeric is worked in. Too much curry will turn me away. I could not deal with PdE Fougere Bengale.
    Turmeric has a bitter astringent smell the curry note is caused by cumin.

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    The reviewer like many people do is confuse Marigold/ Tegetes flower as a Carnation when they are a different species.

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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    Which reviewer vinramani09? The link in my original post (@ NST?) Or the one on GDM?

    From the NST one she said this:

    ...If you've tried the first two, you probably already expected incense, and the name Bengale Oeillet, if you speak French (or even just perfume-French), probably led to you to expect carnation.

    You'd be right on both counts. The press materials point out that the Bengale Oeillet is actually a rose (a variety of China rose, to be more specific), but that's not relevant to our concerns. The Aedes Bengale Oeillet is a carnation-incense fragrance, something I never particularly thought to wish for...
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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    Oh and it's now on sale on the site: http://www.aedes.com/illet-Bengale_p_2033.html

    It says: Available June 15th, 2014
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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    Will buy mine tomorrow from them on a pre-sale basis. The two-week wait is OK.
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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    Any of you New Yorker's drop by the boutique & smell this one yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeperez23 View Post
    Which reviewer vinramani09? The link in my original post (@ NST?) Or the one on GDM?

    From the NST one she said this:
    If thats indeed in the pressnotes that is wrong. China Rose is completely different.

    Oellet is a carnation Oellet D'Inde implies the Tegetes or Marigold, they look similar to carnations, but they are not Carnations. That reviewer got it wrong, Any Francophone will concur with what I said. Also Bengal is famous for Marigolds ,as they use it to adorn goddesses in temples.

    Montale had a marigold fragrance, Montale Aoud Oeillet D'Inde, I believe its discontinued now, with a prominent Marigold note, but people confuse it with carnation lol.
    I think Hednic has this one.

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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    Quote Originally Posted by vinramani09 View Post
    Montale had a marigold fragrance, Montale Aoud Oeillet D'Inde, I believe its discontinued now, with a prominent Marigold note, but people confuse it with carnation lol.
    I think Hednic has this one.
    I do have this one. It is discontinued and it is excellent. Thanks for the clarification about the marigold/carnation confusion.
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    Hednic please do give a review of this. Since you do know what Marigolds smell like ( I have a travel size of that Oeillet , from the Vendome days).
    Come to think of it, the combination of marigold and incense, is trying to capture a temple smell.

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    Rosa 'La Bengale Oeillet' is also known as the carnation rose and was one painted by Redoute.
    It's referred to on the Aedes product page.

    Several roses were known as 'Bengal roses' as they originally arrived in Europe via Bengal.

    There's a pic of something similar here.
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    In on a split for this one. Very excited!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lpp View Post
    Rosa 'La Bengale Oeillet' is also known as the carnation rose and was one painted by Redoute.
    It's referred to on the Aedes product page.

    Several roses were known as 'Bengal roses' as they originally arrived in Europe via Bengal.

    There's a pic of something similar here.
    China Rose does not even grow in Bengal. Bengal Rose is actually a dye used in Eye procedures.
    Aedes's press release is poorly and randomly written. My main point was Marigolds are often mistaken as Carnations when they are not.
    Also the fact the fragrance turmeric, spices, incense , leads me to believe this is India inspired fragrance. In any case once Hednic gets he would be able to clarify the notes, as he does know how marigolds smell like.

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    The China roses from China were shipped to Europe via Bengal, apparently, which is why they were incorrectly referred to as 'Bengal roses'.
    One is named Oeillet Bengale (which is also known as 'the carnation rose').
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinramani09 View Post
    If thats indeed in the pressnotes that is wrong. China Rose is completely different.

    Oellet is a carnation Oellet D'Inde implies the Tegetes or Marigold, they look similar to carnations, but they are not Carnations. That reviewer got it wrong, Any Francophone will concur with what I said. Also Bengal is famous for Marigolds ,as they use it to adorn goddesses in temples.

    Montale had a marigold fragrance, Montale Aoud Oeillet D'Inde, I believe its discontinued now, with a prominent Marigold note, but people confuse it with carnation lol.
    I think Hednic has this one.
    Quote Originally Posted by lpp View Post
    Rosa 'La Bengale Oeillet' is also known as the carnation rose and was one painted by Redoute.
    It's referred to on the Aedes product page.

    Several roses were known as 'Bengal roses' as they originally arrived in Europe via Bengal.

    There's a pic of something similar here.
    Quote Originally Posted by vinramani09 View Post
    China Rose does not even grow in Bengal. Bengal Rose is actually a dye used in Eye procedures.
    Aedes's press release is poorly and randomly written. My main point was Marigolds are often mistaken as Carnations when they are not.
    Also the fact the fragrance turmeric, spices, incense , leads me to believe this is India inspired fragrance. In any case once Hednic gets he would be able to clarify the notes, as he does know how marigolds smell like.
    I think you were overthinking the connections.

    The Aedes de Venustas press release and the two reviews make mention only to Œillet Bengale, and not to Œillet d'Inde, which appear to be two different things.

    Œillet Bengale (or rather 'La Bengale Œillet') refers to a rose species which looks like carnation, and the new Aedes de Venustas composition is inspired by that, a rose fragrance with spices, and not marigold.

    Œillet d'Inde refers to marigold, and I cannot find any reference to œillet bengale being the same as œillet d'inde (and neither is Bengal the same as India anyway).

    Moreover, Grain de musc's review was referenced as well. Denyse Beaulieu is a Francophone, and she did not confuse œillet d'inde with œillet bengale, incidentally. She mentions carnation and rose in her review, and even points out the accord thus "old-school rose-and-ylang carnation accord is centered on Givaudan’s methyl-diantilis, which smells like iso-eugenol with guaiac, vanillin and slightly burnt facets".

    Would you persist in believing that this is a marigold-incense composition despite the evidence to the contrary?

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    Last time I checked Bengal was a major province in India, I actually was there 4 years ago as part of a tour group. Bengal is not the same as India, shows ignorance, the capital of British India was in Bengal state. I suggest you get an atlas or history book. Thats like saying Tuscany has nothing to do with Italy
    It indicates its a Carnation and incense fragrance. Carnation is frequently misconstrued as Marigold, if you bother to read the exchange you would know that.
    That being said, the writing is pretty much on the wall when the , notes includes a combination of tumeric, cinnamon, pepper , cloves
    In any case it was a light exchange between me and Ipp, Your essay was really not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinramani09 View Post
    Last time I checked Bengal was a major province in India, I actually was there 4 years ago as part of a tour group. Bengal is not the same as India, shows ignorance, the capital of British India was in Bengal state. I suggest you get an atlas or history book. Thats like saying Tuscany has nothing to do with Italy
    It indicates its a Carnation and incense fragrance. Carnation is frequently misconstrued as Marigold, if you bother to read the exchange you would know that.
    That being said, the writing is pretty much on the wall when the , notes includes a combination of tumeric, cinnamon, pepper , cloves
    In any case it was a light exchange between me and Ipp, Your essay was really not needed.
    Oh, I am sorry, I did not know this thread was a private one for you and lpp (sorry, lpp!).

    And I am also sorry to inform you that Bengal is not a major province of India per se. It is an area that now comprises Bangladesh (a different and separate country from India) and West Bengal, a province of India. India itself is way more than Bengal, just like Italy is more than just Toscana. I doubt Sicilians or Lazians or people from the other regions of Italy would like to be called Tuscans, although they would be proud to be called Italians.

    And why do I bother to butt in to correct your misconceptions? Because you baldly stated that Aedes de Venustas and the reviewer (from NST) made mistakes when it seems otherwise. I would let the other readers make their own judgements.

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    Default Re: Oeillet Bengale by Aedes de Venustas

    Anyone else smell/wear/own this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinramani09 View Post
    Hednic please do give a review of this. Since you do know what Marigolds smell like ( I have a travel size of that Oeillet , from the Vendome days).
    Come to think of it, the combination of marigold and incense, is trying to capture a temple smell.
    Just my first impressions as I have had it only for about a month. The thing that greets you at first is the very spicy opening. I get whiffs of cinnamon mixed with clove with just a touch of cardamom (almost couldn't detect it at first) moving then to a soft floral and finishing up with a very pleasant incense dry down. Extremely nice.
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    First impressions here as well - a sample arrived on Friday and from a very brief test in weather that is not conducive to any activity whatsoever it's certainly a spicy rose and yes, Vin - there is a bit of carnation for a while
    The incense dry down doesn't quite hide the base imo.
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    Sounds like something I would love. Thanks!
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