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    Quote Originally Posted by Uvalde View Post
    I'm on some coffee forums, and there's little talk about some kinds of coffee that the general populace drinks, and so similarly, a regular person wandering in wouldn't find much discussion of the coffee he often drinks. For example, enthusiasts don't talk much about Starbucks, mostly because we all think it's objectively and subjectively just plain bad coffee -- badly roasted, badly brewed. There's an element of snobbery too, of course, but someone with a demanding educated palate isn't going to sit around talking about Starbucks, just like people won't sit around here talking about Gucci Guilty or whatever.
    Well Starbucks had to clear out of Australia, as their coffee was so poor.

    But what you say about no one is going to sit around discussing Gucci Guilty is pertinent.

    When Gucci Envy, Rush, PH and PH11 were new, they were discussed here - at great length.
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    I don't really agree. I see people suggest a bunch of designer stuff, and quite frequently. Dior / Chanel / Mugler / Tom ford / HM / Hermes...and the list goes on.

    I also don't see an issue with talking about niche stuff, or suggesting it. If one doesn't have access to this stuff, and isn't in close proximity to stores that sell it, where else are they going to be exposed to it? I know coming here has definitely opened my eyes to the joys of higher end fragrances. It's like Christmas now, every time I receive a box of samples .
    I said discussion here about the biggest selling scents in the world was relatively minuscule - I didn't say non existent.

    I'm not worried about not being able to test new niche scents, as I have a whole big drawer full of niche scents that I rarely wear - I don't need another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chili_willi View Post
    I like the tone of these forums specifically because of the niche discussions. I live in a smaller city so my access to more exclusive fragrances is quite limited. I do still appreciate the discussions on an outstanding designer fragrance but I come here to broaden my horizons and that usually tends to lean to fragrances that aren't readily available to me.
    Yes, these forums are a very nice place for discussions.

    But would it hurt to have discussion about both the high end scents that few wear and the designer scents that are the biggest sellers?
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    OP made an interesting observation. It is clear Basenotes has become a community of fragrance aficionados more than it is for the casual fragrance wearers. Just look at the review section - you'd hardly see the sort of consumer reviews you see on Fragrantica or MakeupAlley. Even the shorter ones or those for designer fragrances are written by members with considerable experience and exposure, or those with BNPlus membership. It is by design that non-paying members don't get their reviews posted automatically though they can still kickstart a discussion in the forums.

    I do agree the discussion forum seems skewed towards niche fragrances. That's only because niche fragrance fans made the effort to start a discussion. Nothing is stopping anyone from starting a discussion on designer fragrances. But there are few takers. I remember the occasional threads on stuff like D&G The One, Lanvin Avant Garde, DSquared Rocky Mountain Wood, Bottega Veneta, etc. But if you're gonna start one on an obscure fragrance like Roccobarocco Fashion Man, don't expect an overwhelming respond as the majority would not have heard of it and even fewer have tried it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    Problem with the reviews is that unless you know the reviewers, you often don't know whether they are reviewing a scent from the perspective of art/artisinal qualities or from the perspective of usefulness/agreeability with others.
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    This is true, and in some cases you can't even tell whether or not they are sober and trying to be serious (LOL). BUT...usually, (and thankfully) you CAN pretty much tell, for the most part, who is trying to be helpful and who is simply using the internet for their own fun and games and trying to be humorous. At the very least, you can get an idea as to who is relaying serious thoughts and opinions designed to help others, as opposed to some who may just be blasting a scent and being vocal about it "because they can".

    And if one wants to go to the trouble, if they read a review from someone who sounds like he/she is seriously trying to help and offering detailed thoughts, you can always read their other reviews and look at their wardrobe to see if their tastes generally match up with your's. Like I said, it's a bit of trouble, work and can be time consuming....but in the case of thinking about making a blind buy and spending money, it could well be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondflame View Post

    I do agree the discussion forum seems skewed towards niche fragrances. That's only because niche fragrance fans made the effort to start a discussion. Nothing is stopping anyone from starting a discussion on designer fragrances. But there are few takers. I remember the occasional threads on stuff like D&G The One, Lanvin Avant Garde, DSquared Rocky Mountain Wood, Bottega Veneta, etc. But if you're gonna start one on an obscure fragrance like Roccobarocco Fashion Man, don't expect an overwhelming respond as the majority would not have heard of it and even fewer have tried it.
    Obscurity is a relative matter. Is Roccobarocco Fashion Man harder to find on the internet and stores than most of the niche "gems"? I doubt it.

    I also think designer scent discussion gets dampened with comments along the lines of not wasting money on four or five bottles of such stuff, but to instead save for the quality stuff.

    Anyhow, 12 hours have elapsed, and the delightful Fashion Man is still wafting around me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    If I was someone who quite liked fragrances that are sold in stores worldwide, and who wanted some guidance, I suspect I'd be a bit perplexed if I came to this forum. As for me right now, I can't comment on around two thirds or more of the threads, mainly because I don't know the scents being discussed and am unlikely to ever come across most of them.
    I agree 100% with pretty much everything you said, but I don't view any of it as a criticism of this forum. It is simply proof of the disconnect between the masses and connoisseurs. That disconnect, the difference between the masses and connoisseurs, exists regardless of whether the topic is perfume, photography gear, hifi equipment, literature, film, music, art, coffee or even candy.

    Think about photography. Do you know anybody who shoots pinhole? Lots of people do, but they're like our version of people who wear Amouage. The average person has never heard of Amouage. The average person has never seen someone shoot with a pinhole camera made out of something like a cigar box, an old book or even a hollowed-out gourd. That sounds silly, but I've known people who make ultra-low-tech pinhole cameras out of wacky objects for the fun of it and then go out to shoot photos with them. I howled with laughter when I saw someone mount a pinhole camera made out of a hollowed out melon to a $400 tripod.

    There is almost always a disconnect between the masses and the connoisseurs. I wanted to cook an impressive dinner for a date, so I went to a foodie forum and asked for advice. Hooooooweeeee did they send me in the wrong direction, recommending ingredients I'd never heard of and complex dishes I'd have no hope of ever making that would have been beyond the palate of the woman I was hoping to impress. Eff it. I trusted my gut and came up with a recipe on my own... and it turned out to be fantastic. If someone wants to find perfume that will thrill them, this forum can be a great place to learn, but if someone wants "cologne" for a date, they're probably better off looking elsewhere. And that's not a bad thing. Again, it's just a reflection of the difference between connoisseur tastes and what the masses like.

    It's important to note that the root of this difference is not snobbery. Most people just prefer what they know. It's usually only the connoisseurs who are passionate enough to want to explore beyond the norm - and, again, that's true for perfume, photography, music, art, literature, etc etc etc... it's even true for food and drinks.

    Niche scents are rare in everyday life unless one works in or hangs out with people who are into high end fashion. The word Niche implies this. Niche means a small specialized segment of an overall market. I live in a city of around 600,000 people in a metro area of around 2 million. I can only think of one store that sells Bond, and another that sells Creed. And the store that sells Creed is a specialty shop called The Perfume House. Dudes aren't shopping at a place called The Perfume House. Most men don't even know their bottle of AdG or Bleu is perfume. They think it's cologne. Obviously, anyone can buy Creed online, but the average person isn't going to buy something he's never even heard of.

    I've never had a male friend or acquaintance who is even familiar with the name Creed, let alone one of their fragrances. And Creed is probably one of the most common niche houses. I'd never heard of Creed until I found basenotes.

    To the average guy, Macy's sells popular cologne, Nordstrom sells the high end stuff, and Sephora is for women. The idea that there was an entire world of fragrances beyond the mall was an eye opener for me when I first found basenotes. And though my heart may have found itself among the niche fragrances, my tastes are still grounded in my upbringing. I was a child of the mall. Perhaps that is why my most worn scents tend to be what the forum would call people pleasers, which I happen to enjoy as well. Hanae Mori HM, TdH Parfum, Varvatos Vintage, Aventus, MI, GphII, Tom Ford For Men, etc. These aren't as common as L'homme, Bleu or AdG, but they have mass appeal. I've learned to save stuff like Royal Oud, Interlude Man, LDDM and Cannabis Santal for when I'm either wearing something strictly for my own pleasure or when I've gotten to know someone's taste well enough that it'll appeal to her too.

    Basenotes - especially the Male Fragrances Discussion forum - is a place that heavily favors the connoisseurs. And that's fine. It's great, actually. Fragrantica's club forums tend to favor the mall crowd, and that's fine too. That's the beauty of the internet. There's a place for everybody - and when there isn't, somebody will eventually come along and create one.
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    Very well said, L'Homme Blanc Individuel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    So it's a forum for the discussion of men's fragrances, and fragrances worn by men - that rarely, if ever, mentions the vast majority of scents actually sold to men?
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    You would have to do a study to determine how frequently certain scents are mentioned before I would agree with your assumption. For example, the recent thread about Bleu de Chanel was very popular, unlike many posts that ask about a rare scent and get few if any responses. My point is that the "rare" posts will be disproportionate (more than appears "normal") because there are a lot more aficionados, vintage hunters, etc. who read BN than there are people (in this case, presumably men) who go to any randomly chosen brick & mortar store, even if the number of visitors is the same. What I don't understand with posts like yours is that it's almost like you think there should be a limit to the number of posts on BN. Why not "the more the merrier?" Why is it that you see things in terms of "us versus them" or "good versus bad?"

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    Great post L'Homme Blanc Individuel, so many good points! Reminds me of the posts I see sometimes when a 16yr old guy comes on here and asks for advice on what scent to wear to prom....and I immediately think, "Oh no, no, NO!...this is not the place to come and ask that question young grasshopper!!!"lol And from your description, it looks like I should stop being a lurker and join Fragrantica's group...since designer stuff is more of what I buy and am into.
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    Looking at the first current MFD Forum page, it actually looks pretty mainstream to me.
    The more obscure ones tend to end up being discussed in General in my experience.
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    In my experience, a lot of people I've talked to in passing about perfume are absolutely dumbfounded at the prices of luxury/niche perfumes and not only wouldn't pay the price but wouldn't put in the extra time and effort needed to explore these scents.
    Most people are content with the mainstream.

    Basenotes is a forum for enthusiasts for perfume. When I smoked cigars, I used to go to the ends of the earth for limited edition and rare cigars costing well over $100 for 1 cigar. Meanwhile most cigar smokers are happy with a $3 Fuente.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbz View Post
    Great post L'Homme Blanc Individuel, so many good points! Reminds me of the posts I see sometimes when a 16yr old guy comes on here and asks for advice on what scent to wear to prom....and I immediately think, "Oh no, no, NO!...this is not the place to come and ask that question young grasshopper!!!"lol And from your description, it looks like I should stop being a lurker and join Fragrantica's group...since designer stuff is more of what I buy and am into.
    I think this is a more valid criticism, and I posted a few times on such threads, making the same point, but after a while I decided that this is just going to happen, over and over again. I wonder how many 17 years olds have worn Norne to their proms over the last several years (after getting BN advice)! LOL.

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    I think that more 17 year olds have probably had Creed suggested as a suitable purchase but it's often just because people sometimes don't read the O.P. properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lpp View Post
    I think that more 17 year olds have probably had Creed suggested as a suitable purchase but it's often just because people sometimes don't read the O.P. properly.
    This is so true.

    I think a lot of people on the internet are extremely quick to "offer advise" or "give opinions" without properly ASKING for more relevant info. Like, what price range are you wanting to stay within? What age range are you in, and who (if anybody) are you wanting to impress/is it for yourself? Are you wanting something you can buy at a local brick and mortar retailer, or how comfortable are you with ordering online? Those type of questions. They'll just see somebody ask "I'm looking for a new scent, what should I get?" and immediately chime in with "Aventus", not realizing that it is a 17 year old with limited funds who knows nothing about fragrances that is doing the asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    I think this is a more valid criticism, and I posted a few times on such threads, making the same point, but after a while I decided that this is just going to happen, over and over again. I wonder how many 17 years olds have worn Norne to their proms over the last several years (after getting BN advice)! LOL.
    LMAO! I know right? I can only imagine the poor teenagers who pony up big bucks and hours scouring the internet to get the "holy grail" of scents offered up by the most experienced and discriminating Basenotes noses....only to have the bottle show up and dying of anticipation they excitingly open it up and spray it for the "big night"! Only to be like "WTF!!! What IS this?! It smells like @$$, what a bunch of dicks!"
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    Basenotes is a forum for enthusiasts for perfume. When I smoked cigars, I used to go to the ends of the earth for limited edition and rare cigars costing well over $100 for 1 cigar. Meanwhile most cigar smokers are happy with a $3 Fuente.
    Well, that's pretty much the crux of my point.

    Both you and others in this thread say that , either implicitly or explicitly.

    In designer scent threads, it shows through either explicitly or inferred.

    When did designer scents in general, and the biggest selling ones in the world specifically, become the province of the "mall crowd" over at Fragrantica?

    Basenotes used to be a lot more inclusive, in my opinion.

    Mind you, I still think it's better now than when it went through the strange phase - explicitly espoused by some at the time - that women's scents wear vastly superior to men's scents and that you were wearing lower quality junk when wearing scents marketed to men. And every third thread was about the joy of wearing women's scents.
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    Well, that's pretty much the crux of my point.

    Both you and others in this thread say that , either implicitly or explicitly.

    In designer scent threads, it shows through either explicitly or inferred.

    When did designer scents in general, and the biggest selling ones in the world specifically, become the province of the "mall crowd" over at Fragrantica?

    Basenotes used to be a lot more inclusive, in my opinion.

    Mind you, I still think it's better now than when it went through the strange phase - explicitly espoused by some at the time - that women's scents wear vastly superior to men's scents and that you were wearing lower quality junk when wearing scents marketed to men. And every third thread was about the joy of wearing women's scents.
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    I don't see the "exclusivity" that you do, but instead, some scents become a popular topic of discussion for one reason or another. The best example may be how Bleu de Chanel was mostly dismissed here at first, but then recently a bunch of defenders seemed to "come out of the woodwork." I don't think you will be able to figure out all the nuances, in terms of why this or that scent or topic becomes popular here at a particular time, except for very obvious examples. The idea of a "mall scent" seems to be a common one, at least among BN members, and though subject to all the qualifications when one makes such a generalization, I think it makes at least some sense. That is, the scent isn't challenging, it's sort of a mish mash or pastiche, and of course it's compliant with the latest IFRA guidelines. That said, there may be something about such a scent that I like, but I don't go out of my way to sample these and won't pay full retail. I wear $5 scents like Yacht Man Chocolate, "women's" ones like vintage Mitsouko and Cinnabar, niche, recent designer such as Roadster, and of course all kinds of vintage. To me it's about the olfactory experience first and foremost, but probably most BN members are in it for a different reason, and so I find some of those threads interesting from some other perspective, such as socio-economic or psychological, and would not want to see BN become less diverse. Let members post what they want and I'll read the threads that interest me !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsly View Post
    You would have to do a study to determine how frequently certain scents are mentioned before I would agree with your assumption. For example, the recent thread about Bleu de Chanel was very popular, unlike many posts that ask about a rare scent and get few if any responses. My point is that the "rare" posts will be disproportionate (more than appears "normal") because there are a lot more aficionados, vintage hunters, etc. who read BN than there are people (in this case, presumably men) who go to any randomly chosen brick & mortar store, even if the number of visitors is the same. What I don't understand with posts like yours is that it's almost like you think there should be a limit to the number of posts on BN. Why not "the more the merrier?" Why is it that you see things in terms of "us versus them" or "good versus bad?"
    Beats me where you get the idea of my suggesting a limit on the number of posts.

    In my opinion, "us versus them" shows up in numerous threads about designer scents I click on. There are always far more disparaging sniping comments posted about it being utterly worthless. Whereas in relation to niche scents, the negative comments are more along the lines of - I don't personally like it, but I respect the artistry/ composition (i.e. rare to see one of them called worthless).
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    Beats me where you get the idea of my suggesting a limit on the number of posts.

    In my opinion, "us versus them" shows up in numerous threads about designer scents I click on. There are always far more disparaging sniping comments posted about it being utterly worthless. Whereas in relation to niche scents, the negative comments are more along the lines of - I don't personally like it, but I respect the artistry/ composition (i.e. rare to see one of them called worthless).
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    I wouldn't be surprised if designer scents are more likely to be criticized in harsher terms than niche, though you'd have to try and quantify it if you wanted it to go beyond a hunch. Also, I would want to know if this is mostly done by long-term members or "Johnny come lately" types, who often don't stay around very long.

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    I think many designer scents are so familiar that there's not as much to talk about them. Niche is somewhat popular to discuss because there's more word of mouth being spread about how good/bad/great they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbz View Post
    Reminds me of the posts I see sometimes when a 16yr old guy comes on here and asks for advice on what scent to wear to prom....and I immediately think, "Oh no, no, NO!...this is not the place to come and ask that question young grasshopper!!!.
    But Basenotes was the place for the grasshoppers to come. That's how it started out - a few ultra knowledgeable types and lots of grasshoppers.

    The biggest mentor was Grant - with his designer scent Fragrance Selector Mark 1, which enabled any newbie to make sense of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    When did designer scents in general, and the biggest selling ones in the world specifically, become the province of the "mall crowd" over at Fragrantica?
    Biggest Selling isn't the mark of quality. Bud and Coors sell more beer than all microbrews combined. Yikes. MacDonald's out sells steakhouses. That being said, browse my history here and you'll find no shortage of posts where I rave about designer scents. Hanae Mori HM, TdH Parfum, Varvatos Original and especially Vintage, FAHRENHEIT!!!, DHI, Gph I and II, Boss Bottled, and yes, Curve. I could go on and on. Infusion d'Homme, Este Lauder Pleasures, Dior Homme Sport, Cannabis Santal, Happy For Men, I could go on and on.

    Designers come up all the time here. There will always be some elitists who snub their noses at anything under $100, but there will also always be people who do the same at the other end of the spectrum, writing off anything over $100. Whichever of those extremes that bothers you more is probably the one you'll notice more of. That's just human nature. But all things considered, I think there's a healthy mix here of people in the middle who enjoy both designer and niche.

    It's always easy to look back at the past and say something used to be better. Earlier this year, basenotes was a spam fest with meaningless poll after meaningless poll. "Rive Gauche VS Blach Afgano! Which is betterer?" Last year, it was a mess of Huddler, after which so much content was lost. Before that it was all Aventus, all the time.

    The forum seems pretty healthy to me these days, but I agree that more talk of designers would be good. I come here for the content, so, more talk of anything relating to men's fragrances is good for a men's fragrance forum.


    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    But Basenotes was the place for the grasshoppers to come. That's how it started out - a few ultra knowledgeable types and lots of grasshoppers.

    The biggest mentor was Grant - with his designer scent Fragrance Selector Mark 1, which enabled any newbie to make sense of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Biggest Selling isn't the mark of quality. Bud and Coors sell more beer than all microbrews combined. Yikes. MacDonald's out sells steakhouses. That being said, browse my history here and you'll find no shortage of posts where I rave about designer scents. Hanae Mori HM, TdH Parfum, Varvatos Original and especially Vintage, FAHRENHEIT!!!, DHI, Gph I and II, Boss Bottled, and yes, Curve. I could go on and on. Infusion d'Homme, Este Lauder Pleasures, Dior Homme Sport, Cannabis Santal, Happy For Men, I could go on and on.

    Designers come up all the time here. There will always be some elitists who snub their noses at anything under $100, but there will also always be people who do the same at the other end of the spectrum, writing off anything over $100. Whichever of those extremes that bothers you more is probably the one you'll notice more of. That's just human nature. But all things considered, I think there's a healthy mix here of people in the middle who enjoy both designer and niche.

    It's always easy to look back at the past and say something used to be better. Earlier this year, basenotes was a spam fest with meaningless poll after meaningless poll. "Rive Gauche VS Blach Afgano! Which is betterer?" Last year, it was a mess of Huddler, after which so much content was lost. Before that it was all Aventus, all the time.

    The forum seems pretty healthy to me these days, but I agree that more talk of designers would be good. I come here for the content, so, more talk of anything relating to men's fragrances is good for a men's fragrance forum.




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    Quote Originally Posted by L'Homme Blanc Individuel View Post
    Perhaps, back then, there wasn't also a Just Starting Out forum here?
    The Just Starting Out Forum was a place for beginners - because when they joined, year in and year out, they kept asking the same questions ad nauseum (as one would expect newbies to do).

    I don't think it was ever meant to be the place where they were meant to be shown the light and weaned off designer scents, so that they could stop being beginners.
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    Basenotes used to be a lot more inclusive, in my opinion.
    I have to concur with this. It seems the folks that brought the wonder of a scent - be it designer or niche - by their vivid descriptions, grasp of aroma-chemicals and what not have seemingly disappeared for the most part. The discussions now are centered around scents that I'd rather wouldn't invest time other than a cursory sniff or two. Not because I can't afford it, it just seems to be scents that tell a story that I don't feel a part of, or something like that.

    My love for designers will probably never go away. I wear Bleu de Chanel almost exclusively when I travel. It's a safe scent indeed. I tend to not try to drive or fly around with too many niche scents because.... well, my love of fragrance shouldn't mean that I want to stand out in a crowd. Let my personality do that. But not my scent that smells like something that only you'd wear during the zombie apocalypse.

    But... BN has shown me that things go in cycles. Perhaps it'll become friendly banter that shows how easily found stuff can be beautiful and not banal.

    That's my take. I wouldn't trade BN for anything, but lately the scents are getting way niche, exclusive like there's some hidden rush to find the most different and rare fragrance and less about how the scents take you places when you smell it.
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    Isn't that exactly why sites like this exist? It's the same for music, books, movies, etc.

    What worries me more is that at any time there are at least 3 Aventus threads on the front page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rüssel View Post
    Isn't that exactly why sites like this exist? It's the same for music, books, movies, etc.

    What worries me more is that at any time there are at least 3 Aventus threads on the front page.
    i don't visit them, but from your comment I guess movie sites don't discuss the latest most popular blockbuster movies and book sites don't discuss the latest best selling books, right? And music sites studiously ignore the best selling albums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    You aren't that fond of Invictus - neither am I. Though I might pick a bottle up when it drops to $25.

    But I am fond of my 18Euro bottle of Roccobarocco Fashion Man which I am wearing today, it reminds me of Tobacco Vanille (similar vanilla effect, but my wife doesn't complain about it). I started a thread about it here with near zilch response.
    The nice thing about this forum is necro threading isn't really discouraged, so while there's no response now it could turn into a multi-page thread over the next five years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renato View Post
    i don't visit them, but from your comment I guess movie sites don't discuss the latest most popular blockbuster movies and book sites don't discuss the latest best selling books, right? And music sites studiously ignore the best selling albums.
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    They'll mock 50 Shades of Grey and go on and on about hard to find surrealist French poetry, yes. If there's a great new release (according to them) I'm sure they'll go on about it as well, just like people here went on about Pure Malt (and anything Pure), Aventus, Dior HI, Bentley, Spicebomb and such.

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