New Slumberhouse Fragrance: Sådanne

[naylor]

I feel like you come in to every Slumberhouse related thread and say the same thing. We get it, the house isn't for you and you have delusions that people worship Josh, when in reality all we ever say is that he is a good guy and makes interesting scents.

Also, for what it's worth, I find Juniper Ridge unwearable. I don't know what it is, but something in the raw initial strength of their stuff is a massive turn off to me. To each their own.

Truth.

[pluran]

Luckily, I haven't found a slumberhouse that I like so I don't have to worry about these things. His stuff is just one huge basenote to me and I haven't found one that I enjoy.

Tried quite a few, but feel the same way.

They definitely aren't the pinnacle of perfumery and I haven't bought a bottle, but the last couple of times I've tried Norne and Sova I've really appreciated them being around. Whether I actually like them or not, the fragrances are interesting. They have the power to make me think, make my world a hair bigger, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say about Creed. I'm from Portland so I guess I should give the Slumberhouse fragrances some positive vibes. There's some talent there and I wish them the best.

[hednic]

I understand. It's vaguely amusing to read the novella length reviews, though. :-) Tedious. Very tedious. And it usually tells me something isn't right.

Thanks. I appreciate the comment.

[deadidol]

Disappointed to see such hostile remarks made against Basenoters who take the time to contribute extensive, thoughtful reviews to the site (we saw this recently in another thread that WayOffScenter responded too with genuine concern). I guess we can always look to the sources of such complaints for better examples of how people should write reviews in a more satisfactory manner? Oh, wait . . .

Also såddened by the direction people have tried to take this thread, but again, that's somewhat expected. With that said, for those who are here to talk about the scent of the topic, I hope you enjoy it when you get your nose on it.

[juanderer]

Also Sådanned by the direction people have tried to take this thread[...]

Fixed that for you.

I, for one, am looking forward to sampling this and decide whether a full bottle is in my future. The way it was described to me as something more in the vein of Eki with zigzags of stink underneath it made my ears and nose perk up. The bottle alone looks good enough to warrant a spot on my shelf, but looks aren't everything.

[yarn]

Also såddened by the direction people have tried to take this thread, but again, that's somewhat expected. With that said, for those who are here to talk about the scent of the topic, I hope you enjoy it when you get your nose on it.

Intentional lightening of the thread??

Good work

[rynegne]

Does anyone know if and where samples will be made available? I'd like to try this but have a hard time paying $160 on a blind purchase.

I, for one, am looking forward to sampling this and decide whether a full bottle is in my future.

[OctaVariuM]

Does anyone know if and where samples will be made available? I'd like to try this but have a hard time paying $160 on a blind purchase.

Same. Normally I would suggest contacting Josh, but from what he said in our last correspondence, he is swamped with emails. They might end up having samples available through his distributors, we will just have to wait and see.

[juanderer]

Luckyscent and Twisted Lily should have samples available once the official release happens (I hope).

[noideawhatimsaying]

Also såddened by the direction people have tried to take this thread, but again, that's somewhat expected. With that said, for those who are here to talk about the scent of the topic, I hope you enjoy it when you get your nose on it.

Listen, I'd love to write a favorable review of his scents. I've had a total 180 on them. It's odd to me that unless you write favorable things you're perceived to be a bad individual. Isn't criticism the path to success at times? Isn't criticism similar to support, just on the opposite spectrum?

No perfumer is perfect. That's why we have reviews. If I take my review and put it on the Reviews section then we'd be good, no?

[deadidol]

Listen, I'd love to write a favorable review of his scents. I've had a total 180 on them. It's odd to me that unless you write favorable things you're perceived to be a bad individual. Isn't criticism the path to success at times? Isn't criticism similar to support, just on the opposite spectrum?

Criticism is necessary, welcomed, and appreciated on Basenotes, so I'm not sure where this sentiment comes from. Some of the "tedious, so very tedious" reviews as of late have proven to be exceptional critiques of these scents rather than "eww gross" dismissals or statements like "norne and jeke share the same base" (still chuckling over that one).

But given that the thread is about the new fragrance and not the rest of the line (plenty of other threads for that--one that's even dedicated to "eww gross" type analysis), perhaps it's best to try to focus on the new fragrance? With that said, do share your thoughts on the new one as you've clearly got lots to say about it. And let's maybe keep things on topic? I'm going to bow out of this thread from here on as (like WayOffScenter also noted) I tend to be a lightning rod for these kind of derailments whenever I attempt to share new info on lines

[james1051]

Luckyscent and Twisted Lily should have samples available once the official release happens (I hope).

Right, and Parfum1 confirmed to me this morning that they are carrying the line still. Although their stocks are depleted at the moment, they are just waiting for the new things to arrive in a week or two. They (P1) are great about sample requests.

[juanderer]

Awesome. Thanks for sharing the info. Parfum1 is certainly great about sample requests, just like Twisted Lily, with the added bonus of discount events occurring more regularly than with Twisted.

[lpp]

Hoping that Indiescents will be stocking this as it's definitely on my 'to do' list.

Whoever samples it first - we're waiting for more info please

[Akahina]

This one is lighter and brighter but something lurks in its core that is dark and deep. I get some sort of fruity accord...my first thought was blood orange but I am surely wrong. I am terrible at disecting notes so my thoughts are unimportant I suspect. There must be some sort of musc in this along with some fruit and something floral. Not at all feminine or masculine, wearable by anyone. This seems like a good summer scent. I hope others can disect this better than I can but this is surely a departure for Josh. Seems to have some classic perfume notes with a modern twist and just a hint of dark deepness that prevails in many Slumberhouse scents. After about 30 minutes I thought the scent had worn off, but I keep getting delicious whiffs. Love this one and can't wait to wear it more and learn what is going on.

I also sampled Pear + Olive in its new iteration. It seems to be more uplifting, the pear is more forward and the oily nature of the previous version is toned down a lot. It still smells like Pear + Olive, unmistakenly so, but is less heavy...not weaker but more boyient.

There is something very dirty that lurks in Saddane (sp?) That is burried in it. After a few hours it comes to the front and now after about 5 hours I don't smell it anymore. It dries down to something sweet and sort of waxy. This one is a chamelian. It changes a lot and seems to get stronger after about an hour. I am loving it. Alder & Co. now has it in stock.

[mikeperez23]

Thanks Akahina for the review.

Is the blood orange tart and juicy? Sweet?

What types of florals? A white floral (tuberose, gardenia, orange blossom?)

[OctaVariuM]

Cross posting this here so we keep the dedicated thread:

I got a sample in yesterday from a mysterious party. I'll post my initial thoughts below (right as I've sprayed it on and let it sit for about 10 minutes):

Well, I definitely get berries again, not unlike Zahd. I wonder if Josh has a new fascination that is gravitating away from the darker stuff? Anyway, the berry note is hard for me to pick out, but I'd lean toward cranberry again if I was poked, but it does have that almost raspberry citrusy vibe that blood oranges (I can only speak for "real life" blood oranges, as I have yet to smell a proper blood orange scent) often have. I also get some kind of alcohol style note in here. Nothing harsh, so I would venture to say something in the white wine territory. In fact, that was the second thing I noticed outside of the berries. There is something lurking in here that I can detect from a non-Zahd work of his as well. I think it is Vikt (the new extrait), but I cannot for the life of me put a pin in what exactly it is. Like my fellow fragrance fan above me, I'm not the best at identifying or dissecting notes, nor am I a particularly experienced person when it comes to fragrances in general.

That being said, I've tried almost all of Josh's library past and present, and I have to say this is definitely different. I think it draws on ideas from Zahd for sure, but I'll have to give it the full wearing (a few actually) before I offer any additional thoughts (I won't even say if I like it or not yet, it's still too early).

Other thoughts I shared in the other thread:

And for what it's worth, I agree with the weird thing...at least so far. Are you getting any of that VIkt-like thing I'm smelling or am I just crazy? I've tried to focus on it and I am damn near sure they share something.

In response to deadidol getting raisin instead of anything from Vikt:

Maybe that's what I'm getting then. I got that same feeling from Sana as well.

[Akahina]

I wish I could say! I don't know what the floral quality comes from. Certainly not a white floral or gardenia. The floral feeling may very well come from an odd fruit accord that could be berries or blood orange or something not commonly used. I would say it is juicier, not tart for the most part. The most confusing part to me is that I don't know what the dirty part is. Maybe some kind of musc, but it does not seem to be civet or castorum. It lurks inside the scent for hours and then after 4 or 5 hours for me it comes out, but it does not project strongly, or as strong as the other notes. But put your nose down to where you sprayed and you get a strong dirty blast. Weird. Then that leaves and it becomes an almost waxy, slightly sweet dry down. I need to wear this one more to figure it out. Like Zahd, I have never smelled anything like this and it may contain things very uncommon in perfumery. It seems to me that there are few if any top notes, it grows after you put it on and goes through several changes.

[deadidol]

I was going to sit this thread out due to some of the comments that were emerging above, but I plan to spend the weekend with this one in order to get some thoughts together and I'll post them either here or as a review. I will say that this is not a safe blind buy—especially if you're a fan of what's come prior. There's a very different approach being engaged in this scent—one that addresses flickering sillage and the after-effects of a powerful opening. See how it performs after you think it's dropped away (which is does quite fast, you might notice). But for those curious about the florals / fruits etc., take a peek at at Juanderer's note wishlist from earlier in this thread And for those of you who maybe aren't sure about this one or simply aren't feeling it, the year's not over yet

[OctaVariuM]

I was going to sit this thread out due to some of the comments that were emerging above, but I plan to spend the weekend with this one in order to get some thoughts together and I'll post them either here or as a review. I will say that this is not a safe blind buy—especially if you're a fan of what's come prior. There's a very different approach being engaged in this scent—one that addresses flickering sillage and the after-effects of a powerful opening. See how it performs after you think it's dropped away (which is does quite fast, you might notice). But for those curious about the florals / fruits etc., take a peek at at Juanderer's note wishlist from earlier in this thread

Yeah I was going to ask him if he was clairvoyant or something, because what he "wished" for was pretty much what I initially got. Not sure why you wanna sit this one out...unless you are....*ahem*...withholding information.

[Akahina]

Ambergris. Could it be ambergris I am smelling in this? I am not sure I have ever smelled the real thing...hmmm...

Powerful opening? It did not perform that way for me but my perceptions might be wrong since I have only worn this once. On me the scent seemed to grow after about 15 minutes or so. I don't think I can say much more until I wear this one some more.

(I am so bad at identifying notes it is embarrasing!)

[kumquat]

Criticism is necessary, welcomed, and appreciated on Basenotes, so I'm not sure where this sentiment comes from. Some of the "tedious, so very tedious" reviews as of late have proven to be exceptional critiques of these scents rather than "eww gross" dismissals or statements like "norne and jeke share the same base" (still chuckling over that one).

But given that the thread is about the new fragrance and not the rest of the line (plenty of other threads for that--one that's even dedicated to "eww gross" type analysis), perhaps it's best to try to focus on the new fragrance? With that said, do share your thoughts on the new one as you've clearly got lots to say about it. And let's maybe keep things on topic? I'm going to bow out of this thread from here on as (like WayOffScenter also noted) I tend to be a lightning rod for these kind of derailments whenever I attempt to share new info on lines

I believe you are referring to my review in the 'Slumberhouse Redux' thread. I never said any such thing. I only quoted my husband's reaction to one scent when he objected to the odor, if you would kindly check. Once again, I'm sorry I don't care for these particular fragrances. Please don't mis-interpret my comments, however. Just because they are different from your impressions, I believe I have every right to disagree.

[deadidol]

Well, I tried! I guess I'll have to quote myself again. Apologies for my bizarre lightning rod skillz! Hopefully people can discuss the topic, Sådanne from here on out. See ya!

I'm going to bow out of this thread from here on as (like WayOffScenter also noted) I tend to be a lightning rod for these kind of derailments whenever I attempt to share new info on lines

[rynegne]

I have to wonder if the last two fragrances are a departure form the typical Slumberhouse scent in an effort to appeal more to women...?

Prior fragrances, although not marketed towards any specific gender have been rustic, somewhat austere and masculine-leaning for the uninitiated (although I know many women that like these notes - most are part of the fragrance community.)

Both Zahd and Sadanne incorporate the use of aromatic fruits and floral accords. Something that's opposite the resins, woods, amber and animalic notes typically used over the past few years. Wondering if Josh will depart from the fruity-floral in the future venture into another uncharted territory, creating something else that's off the wall for him...like an acquatic...fougere...leather...green...

Either way, it seems we're all in for some new envelope-pushing scents in the future.

[mikeperez23]

Akahina sometimes beeswax and/or honey can smell animalic (and also waxy)...maybe that's what you're smelling?

[james1051]

Has this scent hit the interwebs yet? Or just and exclusive in Portland for now?

[juanderer]

I just spritzed it on a few (30ish) minutes ago. It opens tart and winey with green berries - not that this smells green, but the tartness of the berries brings to mind not-quite-ripe fruit. Shortly after the initial smell, a waxiness comes through that intermittently suggests an iris-like makeup note before settling. If you are a fan of lambics, you will thoroughly enjoy this.

There is an animalic tinge to it, but I feel that you have to look for it to really notice it with what's going on at the top with the more effervescent components. Again, this is going off the first 30 minutes of wearing it. More to come.

Has this scent hit the interwebs yet? Or just and exclusive in Portland for now?

It's available through Alder & Co's website. I placed my order on Tuesday and received it today. http://alderandcoshop.com/products/sadanne-perfume

[mspa]

whoever likes to more than try it, join me at palmbeach's split. i got the first 10ml spot, 2 more available to fill the split.

[mspa]

by the way i just clicked the link juanderer posted - i see norne, pear/olive and jeke come now in the same bottling as sadanne, and are priced the same - $160...
does anybody now if this is the new encarnation of pear and olive? how about norne and jeke.... same as the beeds and pouch design, just the new bottle, or new formulations?

[Akahina]

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